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PacGamer
Profile Joined December 2011
United States14 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 14:08:26
July 25 2012 14:06 GMT
#141
This is will not do anything to stop hackers. What it does do, however, is stop legitimate mods and customization. Current hackers today (i.e. map hackers) do not even edit any files. They use external programs that inject into the game after it's been launched, not before. Warden is useless in WoW, Diablo, and Starcraft. Until they fix it, hackers will still be around.

On July 25 2012 22:35 Sea_Food wrote:
Wait, does this also mean no client relocalisizers? As in patch 1,1.5 it will be impossibe to play on kr server with english client or vice versa?

They say they're adding a Global Play feature in HOTS.
renkin
Profile Joined July 2010
France249 Posts
July 25 2012 14:20 GMT
#142
Doesn't SC2 hacks work with RAM and injection processes... ? Because with Warden around, it would be really retarded to modify any game files.
This patch doesn't look like a bad news for hacking.
Blizzard already have a solution that deals with hacking and redownloading modified game files doesn't feel like Warden modus operandi.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 25 2012 14:23 GMT
#143
as long as it fights cheaters, I'm all for it
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Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
July 25 2012 14:35 GMT
#144
On July 25 2012 12:46 desarrisc wrote:
So does this block hacking or no? Has anyone got the opportunity to test this?

Rrright. Lots of people jumping in on TL screaming "I can't get my cheats to work though I payed for them more than I did for the game itself". Sorry cant see that happening.
Tom Cruise
Profile Joined July 2012
Denmark482 Posts
July 25 2012 14:40 GMT
#145
On July 25 2012 23:23 nkr wrote:
as long as it fights cheaters, I'm all for it


what makes you people think it fights cheaters? I don't understand.
Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
July 25 2012 14:46 GMT
#146
On July 25 2012 23:40 Tom Cruise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 23:23 nkr wrote:
as long as it fights cheaters, I'm all for it


what makes you people think it fights cheaters? I don't understand.


Fanboys want to think the best of their company. Blizzard should update their art with the stronger team colors or at least make it an option if they're killing mods.
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USApwn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States81 Posts
July 25 2012 14:53 GMT
#147
step in the right direction for now - i don't care about enhanced team colors when the option to prevent hacking means no messing around with the files. This is a sport and a very competitive game, i totally support this move
"The beginning of wisdom in human as well as international affairs was knowing when to stop." Henry Kissinger
Beelzebro
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom45 Posts
July 25 2012 14:58 GMT
#148
it may not prevent all hacks but it'll definitely prevent some, and for that reason i think it's worth it

hopefully blizzard will either put an option for STC built into SC2 or just tell the integrity checker to ignore the current mod files if they're present. that wouldn't be much effort on their part but would create a lot of good will and happy colour-blind people

as for korean sounds, or english menus on korean server, we'll be able to do these things when they add langauge options and cross region play around the time HotS comes out, so we need not mourn for them

the only thing i think this will completely stop (in terms of mods) is custom backgrounds. which, lets be honest, you spend about 1 second looking at anyway so it's not a big deal
"as full and bright as I am, this light is not my own and, a million light reflections... pass over me"
-UMADIMSTYLIN-
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Cuba292 Posts
July 25 2012 15:01 GMT
#149
This is such a silly question, but can someone explain to me "stronger team colors" lol, sorry :D
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 25 2012 15:02 GMT
#150
On July 25 2012 23:40 Tom Cruise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 23:23 nkr wrote:
as long as it fights cheaters, I'm all for it


what makes you people think it fights cheaters? I don't understand.


what makes you think it doesn't? Unless you're a programmer who can back up your claims, let people think what they want
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hersenen
Profile Joined November 2011
Belize176 Posts
July 25 2012 15:03 GMT
#151
Boy a lot of people here sure know very little about how reverse engineering and client modification works. (pro tip: this update won't stop hackers at all.)
tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
July 25 2012 15:05 GMT
#152
On July 26 2012 00:01 -UMADIMSTYLIN- wrote:
This is such a silly question, but can someone explain to me "stronger team colors" lol, sorry :D

There was a mod that made the colors in the game brighter and more vibrant, search for it you will find. It looks real good though I never did the mod.
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
Tom Cruise
Profile Joined July 2012
Denmark482 Posts
July 25 2012 15:06 GMT
#153
On July 26 2012 00:02 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 23:40 Tom Cruise wrote:
On July 25 2012 23:23 nkr wrote:
as long as it fights cheaters, I'm all for it


what makes you people think it fights cheaters? I don't understand.


what makes you think it doesn't? Unless you're a programmer who can back up your claims, let people think what they want


todays hacks don't give two flying fucks about game files cuz they're all external and modifies memory, most hacks are overlays, they don't even touch the game client, they detect it.
MstrJinbo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1251 Posts
July 25 2012 15:26 GMT
#154
It's most likely that the change is not related to hacking. This sort of thing happens with major interface changes. Though it's pretty bad news for people who relied on color mods.
Scootaloo
Profile Joined January 2012
655 Posts
July 25 2012 15:39 GMT
#155
Fucking Warcraft 3 hacks didn't even need to edit any official files, why the hell do they think this is going to do anything but destroy tons of legit mods?

Hell, I can't even imagine why they would do this, it's clearly not going to do anything against hackers, maybe a failsafe against corrupted data or something? But to shove in a failsafe at the cost of being able to mod the game, considering there's a ton of mod folders, I'm guessing they actually wanted people to mod this shit.
DrPhilOfdOOm
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden353 Posts
July 25 2012 15:55 GMT
#156
Stornger team color is so fucking good they cant remove it!!
Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
July 25 2012 16:04 GMT
#157
I can understand why they'd do it even if it doesn't stop "hacks" because it's the slippery slope argument. It's only a matter of time before you have high templars and ghost glowing neon pink or something in the army composition, if some people aren't doing that already. So as usual people using it for eye candy lose out because of players who exploit it for an advantage. Blizzard can't tell the difference so all they can do is prevent it. Browder likes the mod so hopefully there will be an option in the future. A Color Blind mode in options would be good PR, like that control scheme activision did for that kid playing call of duty with his mouth, normad or something.
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speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
July 25 2012 16:14 GMT
#158
i can't see dick without stronger color mod, so hopefully there'll be some alternative.
DrPhilOfdOOm
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden353 Posts
July 25 2012 16:18 GMT
#159
Please go support the thread on EU battle.net and let blizzard know that we want Stronger team colors to stay!
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/4940469033
Tom Cruise
Profile Joined July 2012
Denmark482 Posts
July 25 2012 16:22 GMT
#160
On July 26 2012 01:14 speknek wrote:
i can't see dick without stronger color mod, so hopefully there'll be some alternative.


Turn up color vibrance.
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