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god I am so grateful that naniwa didn't troll back. how can anyone not forgive after that statement. sounds like he really didn't know that people would react like this to it.
I don’t just play for myself anymore, but for all the fans of StarCraft 2 and eSports. -Naniwa
enough said, issue resolved, move along.
go git your code S spot by winning code A. I will root for you.
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On December 15 2011 09:27 Quintum_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 09:03 DrGreen wrote:
Meaningless statements from both sides. Everyone knows whats going on on both sides and those statements are just a formal curtain. Of course Naniwa didn't grow up in last 24 hours, also its clear that reasoning behind revoking Naniwa's code S spot is pro-korean, GSL as the global league shouldn't use korean definition of the word "pro-gamer" they should look globally and consider opinion of whole world, not only koreans.. If a korean had done what naniwa did they would of gotten a ban from GSL for months.
I'm not so sure that I believe that any more.
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Good job Naniwa. Asking for forgiveness is always the first place to start.
And if this happened to any Korean player, he would have been kicked out of the teamhouse and bannnnnned from ever joining a competitive team, let alone punishments from the GSL,
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On December 15 2011 09:22 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 09:19 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 09:16 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 15 2011 09:15 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 09:07 Eppa! wrote:On December 15 2011 09:03 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 08:44 Buddhist wrote:Koreans need to stop making such a big deal out of everything , it's going ridiculously far to say that I dont deserve to be called a progamer and such for this kind of thing. This increases my respect for naniwa. The only people who should be upset, if anyone, are his sponsors. They depend upon him playing games, even if said games are showmatches/meaningless. No one else does, especially not fans. I have lost a massive amount of respect for gomtv from this. They have punished him because of their emotions and cultural nonsense, not because he actually broke any rules. If anyone is unprofessional, it is gomtv, not naniwa. Naniwa played by the book, gomtv didn't. majority of sc2 community sees what naniwa did as wrong. he didnt break any rules but he dissed a lot of people. and people are glad a jerk/dick/ass/etc. was punished where usually they're let go freely since they didnt break any rules. you can say a person's moral value has no place in esports but surely, you must understand why people like boxer and whitera are respected by many. I think what many people hate about the situation is GomTV lack of moral value and transparency. They have show unreliability, lack of professionalism and bending of rules in their "favour" . i value attitude over skill. Than you do not care about professional sports. It's as simple as that. Go watch an amateur game then, where there is nothing on the line. you put words in my mouth. if its too hard for you to comprehend what i'm trying to say, then dont attempt. I wrote exactly what you said: you said you don't care as much about skill as you do about attitude. I suggest you go find something that isn't based entirely upon skill level then. Boxer has a GREAT attitude. Should he get a GSL Championship because of it? Nope. Attitude means nothing in professional sports. Skill is everything. If you don't agree with this than you clearly don't know what professional sports is about and are suffering under a very common delusion that it's about "love of the game!"
"While money is an essential factor in a professional athlete’s life, it is the sincere competitive spirit that enables a mere athlete to become a professional athlete. This spirit entails the will to improve, work hard and try one's best no matter what. It also encompasses a mutual respect between those who share the title of professional athlete, which consequently leads to a certain code of professional conduct. It is this underlying competitive spirit, which goes beyond and is unrelated to any amount of prize money, of every professional athlete that touches and entertains many fans."
i agree with that statement, and its the reason why naniwa is getting hostility.
you clearly disagree. you're interpreting what i say the way you want to interpret it.
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On December 15 2011 09:28 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 09:27 Quintum_ wrote:On December 15 2011 09:03 DrGreen wrote:
Meaningless statements from both sides. Everyone knows whats going on on both sides and those statements are just a formal curtain. Of course Naniwa didn't grow up in last 24 hours, also its clear that reasoning behind revoking Naniwa's code S spot is pro-korean, GSL as the global league shouldn't use korean definition of the word "pro-gamer" they should look globally and consider opinion of whole world, not only koreans.. If a korean had done what naniwa did they would of gotten a ban from GSL for months. I'm not so sure that I believe that any more. Do you even watch the GSL / follow it? What happened to Coca? Read up bro!!!!!
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On December 15 2011 09:26 Eppa! wrote:
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They have written (both on Gom TV and MLG) that Nani should have gotten a code S seed according to what they have written on their website. Since code S seed is a price for MLG circuit it should either be payed out regardless (just like $$$).
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GomTV lacks both explicit and implicit rules.
They need to answer for these thing and improve 2. They are currently changing things around and using vague rules (something like rude behavior towards audience.) Western culture has standards on people (Nani was rude) but companies can not punish without written justification and they can not change things that have been promised.
I do not know about Korean culture but Swedish culture requires companies to hold a standard most often above a person .
Number 2 is something that a lot of tournaments have experienced this year in one way or another. SC2 is still so young, these issues are to be expected in the first few years, the important thing is that everyone learns from it and fixes the issues to the best of their abilities. That's all we can ask for as supporters.
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On December 15 2011 09:29 JesusOurSaviour wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 09:28 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 15 2011 09:27 Quintum_ wrote:On December 15 2011 09:03 DrGreen wrote:
Meaningless statements from both sides. Everyone knows whats going on on both sides and those statements are just a formal curtain. Of course Naniwa didn't grow up in last 24 hours, also its clear that reasoning behind revoking Naniwa's code S spot is pro-korean, GSL as the global league shouldn't use korean definition of the word "pro-gamer" they should look globally and consider opinion of whole world, not only koreans.. If a korean had done what naniwa did they would of gotten a ban from GSL for months. I'm not so sure that I believe that any more. Do you even watch the GSL / follow it? What happened to Coca? Read up bro!!!!!
As far as I know, nothing from GOM happened to Coca at all. His coach punished him, which is totally fine, but nothing from GOM.
And don't try the "Oh see they let Boxer punish him!"
Uhh... no. You don't say: "you broke our rules, but some other guy is punishing you so it's cool"
You either punish everyone the same way or you punish no one.
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Naniwa just said that GSL never stated that a Code S spot was his. But MLG did. So apparently there is a huge miscommunication here.
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Good job naniwa. I'm really glad that he came out with this apology, and a very well worded one at that. Come back next season and show them what you got =D
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On December 15 2011 09:29 jinorazi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 09:22 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 15 2011 09:19 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 09:16 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 15 2011 09:15 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 09:07 Eppa! wrote:On December 15 2011 09:03 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 08:44 Buddhist wrote:Koreans need to stop making such a big deal out of everything , it's going ridiculously far to say that I dont deserve to be called a progamer and such for this kind of thing. This increases my respect for naniwa. The only people who should be upset, if anyone, are his sponsors. They depend upon him playing games, even if said games are showmatches/meaningless. No one else does, especially not fans. I have lost a massive amount of respect for gomtv from this. They have punished him because of their emotions and cultural nonsense, not because he actually broke any rules. If anyone is unprofessional, it is gomtv, not naniwa. Naniwa played by the book, gomtv didn't. majority of sc2 community sees what naniwa did as wrong. he didnt break any rules but he dissed a lot of people. and people are glad a jerk/dick/ass/etc. was punished where usually they're let go freely since they didnt break any rules. you can say a person's moral value has no place in esports but surely, you must understand why people like boxer and whitera are respected by many. I think what many people hate about the situation is GomTV lack of moral value and transparency. They have show unreliability, lack of professionalism and bending of rules in their "favour" . i value attitude over skill. Than you do not care about professional sports. It's as simple as that. Go watch an amateur game then, where there is nothing on the line. you put words in my mouth. if its too hard for you to comprehend what i'm trying to say, then dont attempt. I wrote exactly what you said: you said you don't care as much about skill as you do about attitude. I suggest you go find something that isn't based entirely upon skill level then. Boxer has a GREAT attitude. Should he get a GSL Championship because of it? Nope. Attitude means nothing in professional sports. Skill is everything. If you don't agree with this than you clearly don't know what professional sports is about and are suffering under a very common delusion that it's about "love of the game!" "While money is an essential factor in a professional athlete’s life, it is the sincere competitive spirit that enables a mere athlete to become a professional athlete. This spirit entails the will to improve, work hard and try one's best no matter what. It also encompasses a mutual respect between those who share the title of professional athlete, which consequently leads to a certain code of professional conduct. It is this underlying competitive spirit, which goes beyond and is unrelated to any amount of prize money, of every professional athlete that touches and entertains many fans." i agree with that statement, and its the reason why naniwa is getting hostility. you clearly disagree. you're interpreting what i say the way you want to interpret it.
That statement is the most self-serving and obviously fake thing I have read in a long time.
Naniwa is getting hostility because he pissed off NesTea and had the balls to not lay down like a girl when GOM tried to treat him like a slave.
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On December 15 2011 09:33 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 09:29 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 09:22 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 15 2011 09:19 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 09:16 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 15 2011 09:15 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 09:07 Eppa! wrote:On December 15 2011 09:03 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 08:44 Buddhist wrote:Koreans need to stop making such a big deal out of everything , it's going ridiculously far to say that I dont deserve to be called a progamer and such for this kind of thing. This increases my respect for naniwa. The only people who should be upset, if anyone, are his sponsors. They depend upon him playing games, even if said games are showmatches/meaningless. No one else does, especially not fans. I have lost a massive amount of respect for gomtv from this. They have punished him because of their emotions and cultural nonsense, not because he actually broke any rules. If anyone is unprofessional, it is gomtv, not naniwa. Naniwa played by the book, gomtv didn't. majority of sc2 community sees what naniwa did as wrong. he didnt break any rules but he dissed a lot of people. and people are glad a jerk/dick/ass/etc. was punished where usually they're let go freely since they didnt break any rules. you can say a person's moral value has no place in esports but surely, you must understand why people like boxer and whitera are respected by many. I think what many people hate about the situation is GomTV lack of moral value and transparency. They have show unreliability, lack of professionalism and bending of rules in their "favour" . i value attitude over skill. Than you do not care about professional sports. It's as simple as that. Go watch an amateur game then, where there is nothing on the line. you put words in my mouth. if its too hard for you to comprehend what i'm trying to say, then dont attempt. I wrote exactly what you said: you said you don't care as much about skill as you do about attitude. I suggest you go find something that isn't based entirely upon skill level then. Boxer has a GREAT attitude. Should he get a GSL Championship because of it? Nope. Attitude means nothing in professional sports. Skill is everything. If you don't agree with this than you clearly don't know what professional sports is about and are suffering under a very common delusion that it's about "love of the game!" "While money is an essential factor in a professional athlete’s life, it is the sincere competitive spirit that enables a mere athlete to become a professional athlete. This spirit entails the will to improve, work hard and try one's best no matter what. It also encompasses a mutual respect between those who share the title of professional athlete, which consequently leads to a certain code of professional conduct. It is this underlying competitive spirit, which goes beyond and is unrelated to any amount of prize money, of every professional athlete that touches and entertains many fans." i agree with that statement, and its the reason why naniwa is getting hostility. you clearly disagree. you're interpreting what i say the way you want to interpret it. That statement is the most self-serving and obviously fake thing I have read in a long time. Naniwa is getting hostility because he pissed off NesTea and had the balls to not lay down like a girl when GOM tried to treat him like a slave.
put on your foil hat and start a blog on gomtv conspiracy theory.
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I'm just really happy this issue has been resolved. Naniwa is a fantastic player and I really look forward to him bossing it up in the future!
Thanks Quantic for taking the time to adress this and Naniwa for actually apologizing in the way that you did. Can't have been easy, it takes a true proffesional and a good person to do it the way you did. Big respect!
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On December 15 2011 09:34 jinorazi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 09:33 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 15 2011 09:29 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 09:22 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 15 2011 09:19 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 09:16 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 15 2011 09:15 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 09:07 Eppa! wrote:On December 15 2011 09:03 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 08:44 Buddhist wrote:
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This increases my respect for naniwa. The only people who should be upset, if anyone, are his sponsors. They depend upon him playing games, even if said games are showmatches/meaningless. No one else does, especially not fans.
I have lost a massive amount of respect for gomtv from this. They have punished him because of their emotions and cultural nonsense, not because he actually broke any rules. If anyone is unprofessional, it is gomtv, not naniwa. Naniwa played by the book, gomtv didn't. majority of sc2 community sees what naniwa did as wrong. he didnt break any rules but he dissed a lot of people. and people are glad a jerk/dick/ass/etc. was punished where usually they're let go freely since they didnt break any rules. you can say a person's moral value has no place in esports but surely, you must understand why people like boxer and whitera are respected by many. I think what many people hate about the situation is GomTV lack of moral value and transparency. They have show unreliability, lack of professionalism and bending of rules in their "favour" . i value attitude over skill. Than you do not care about professional sports. It's as simple as that. Go watch an amateur game then, where there is nothing on the line. you put words in my mouth. if its too hard for you to comprehend what i'm trying to say, then dont attempt. I wrote exactly what you said: you said you don't care as much about skill as you do about attitude. I suggest you go find something that isn't based entirely upon skill level then. Boxer has a GREAT attitude. Should he get a GSL Championship because of it? Nope. Attitude means nothing in professional sports. Skill is everything. If you don't agree with this than you clearly don't know what professional sports is about and are suffering under a very common delusion that it's about "love of the game!" "While money is an essential factor in a professional athlete’s life, it is the sincere competitive spirit that enables a mere athlete to become a professional athlete. This spirit entails the will to improve, work hard and try one's best no matter what. It also encompasses a mutual respect between those who share the title of professional athlete, which consequently leads to a certain code of professional conduct. It is this underlying competitive spirit, which goes beyond and is unrelated to any amount of prize money, of every professional athlete that touches and entertains many fans." i agree with that statement, and its the reason why naniwa is getting hostility. you clearly disagree. you're interpreting what i say the way you want to interpret it. That statement is the most self-serving and obviously fake thing I have read in a long time. Naniwa is getting hostility because he pissed off NesTea and had the balls to not lay down like a girl when GOM tried to treat him like a slave. put on your foil hat and start a blog on gomtv conspiracy theory.
Go get a dictionary and learn what the words "conspiracy" and "theory" actually mean.
Not once did I imply a conspiracy, and this isn't my "theory", it's a fact that GOM and everyone supporting them has recognized without realizing it when they claim that it would have been ok just to pretend like he cared.
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On December 15 2011 09:29 jinorazi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 09:22 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 15 2011 09:19 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 09:16 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 15 2011 09:15 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 09:07 Eppa! wrote:On December 15 2011 09:03 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 08:44 Buddhist wrote:Koreans need to stop making such a big deal out of everything , it's going ridiculously far to say that I dont deserve to be called a progamer and such for this kind of thing. This increases my respect for naniwa. The only people who should be upset, if anyone, are his sponsors. They depend upon him playing games, even if said games are showmatches/meaningless. No one else does, especially not fans. I have lost a massive amount of respect for gomtv from this. They have punished him because of their emotions and cultural nonsense, not because he actually broke any rules. If anyone is unprofessional, it is gomtv, not naniwa. Naniwa played by the book, gomtv didn't. majority of sc2 community sees what naniwa did as wrong. he didnt break any rules but he dissed a lot of people. and people are glad a jerk/dick/ass/etc. was punished where usually they're let go freely since they didnt break any rules. you can say a person's moral value has no place in esports but surely, you must understand why people like boxer and whitera are respected by many. I think what many people hate about the situation is GomTV lack of moral value and transparency. They have show unreliability, lack of professionalism and bending of rules in their "favour" . i value attitude over skill. Than you do not care about professional sports. It's as simple as that. Go watch an amateur game then, where there is nothing on the line. you put words in my mouth. if its too hard for you to comprehend what i'm trying to say, then dont attempt. I wrote exactly what you said: you said you don't care as much about skill as you do about attitude. I suggest you go find something that isn't based entirely upon skill level then. Boxer has a GREAT attitude. Should he get a GSL Championship because of it? Nope. Attitude means nothing in professional sports. Skill is everything. If you don't agree with this than you clearly don't know what professional sports is about and are suffering under a very common delusion that it's about "love of the game!" "While money is an essential factor in a professional athlete’s life, it is the sincere competitive spirit that enables a mere athlete to become a professional athlete. This spirit entails the will to improve, work hard and try one's best no matter what. It also encompasses a mutual respect between those who share the title of professional athlete, which consequently leads to a certain code of professional conduct. It is this underlying competitive spirit, which goes beyond and is unrelated to any amount of prize money, of every professional athlete that touches and entertains many fans." i agree with that statement, and its the reason why naniwa is getting hostility. you clearly disagree. you're interpreting what i say the way you want to interpret it.
This situation was not about the money in anyway.
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You did wrong, Naniwa, but owning up to it is never easy and you show a lot of character with this. Hope to see you around GSL Feb!
Thx, to you as well Quantic, this was needed.
Naniwa FIGHTING!
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On December 15 2011 09:32 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 09:29 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On December 15 2011 09:28 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 15 2011 09:27 Quintum_ wrote:On December 15 2011 09:03 DrGreen wrote:
Meaningless statements from both sides. Everyone knows whats going on on both sides and those statements are just a formal curtain. Of course Naniwa didn't grow up in last 24 hours, also its clear that reasoning behind revoking Naniwa's code S spot is pro-korean, GSL as the global league shouldn't use korean definition of the word "pro-gamer" they should look globally and consider opinion of whole world, not only koreans.. If a korean had done what naniwa did they would of gotten a ban from GSL for months. I'm not so sure that I believe that any more. Do you even watch the GSL / follow it? What happened to Coca? Read up bro!!!!! As far as I know, nothing from GOM happened to Coca at all. His coach punished him, which is totally fine, but nothing from GOM. And don't try the "Oh see they let Boxer punish him!" Uhh... no. You don't say: "you broke our rules, but some other guy is punishing you so it's cool" You either punish everyone the same way or you punish no one.
they said they deemed the team's punishment adequate
meaning if the team didn't do anything they would've done something similar or just as severe
how can you imply that gomtv would've done nothing even if the team did nothing...
on topic: i gained a lot of respect from reading this statement. although i highly doubt the statement were naniwa's exact words (seems too elegant, lol), the sentiment in the statement seems honest and serious. naniwa has gained at least one more fan after this whole incident. hope he can do well in february.
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sry, but this guy doesn`t deserve the term of being a professional because it is not the first mistake he has done...look at the EPS Germany where he got kicked off too and after that he got kicked out of his team...did he learn something out of this? It doesn`t seem so. Yes, he is a really good player, but with such a behavior he will never be a pro...sry
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On December 15 2011 09:36 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 09:34 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 09:33 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 15 2011 09:29 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 09:22 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 15 2011 09:19 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 09:16 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 15 2011 09:15 jinorazi wrote:On December 15 2011 09:07 Eppa! wrote:On December 15 2011 09:03 jinorazi wrote:
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majority of sc2 community sees what naniwa did as wrong. he didnt break any rules but he dissed a lot of people.
and people are glad a jerk/dick/ass/etc. was punished where usually they're let go freely since they didnt break any rules.
you can say a person's moral value has no place in esports but surely, you must understand why people like boxer and whitera are respected by many. I think what many people hate about the situation is GomTV lack of moral value and transparency. They have show unreliability, lack of professionalism and bending of rules in their "favour" . i value attitude over skill. Than you do not care about professional sports. It's as simple as that. Go watch an amateur game then, where there is nothing on the line. you put words in my mouth. if its too hard for you to comprehend what i'm trying to say, then dont attempt. I wrote exactly what you said: you said you don't care as much about skill as you do about attitude. I suggest you go find something that isn't based entirely upon skill level then. Boxer has a GREAT attitude. Should he get a GSL Championship because of it? Nope. Attitude means nothing in professional sports. Skill is everything. If you don't agree with this than you clearly don't know what professional sports is about and are suffering under a very common delusion that it's about "love of the game!" "While money is an essential factor in a professional athlete’s life, it is the sincere competitive spirit that enables a mere athlete to become a professional athlete. This spirit entails the will to improve, work hard and try one's best no matter what. It also encompasses a mutual respect between those who share the title of professional athlete, which consequently leads to a certain code of professional conduct. It is this underlying competitive spirit, which goes beyond and is unrelated to any amount of prize money, of every professional athlete that touches and entertains many fans." i agree with that statement, and its the reason why naniwa is getting hostility. you clearly disagree. you're interpreting what i say the way you want to interpret it. That statement is the most self-serving and obviously fake thing I have read in a long time. Naniwa is getting hostility because he pissed off NesTea and had the balls to not lay down like a girl when GOM tried to treat him like a slave. put on your foil hat and start a blog on gomtv conspiracy theory. Go get a dictionary and learn what the words "conspiracy" and "theory" actually mean. Not once did I imply a conspiracy, and this isn't my "theory", it's a fact that GOM and everyone supporting them has recognized without realizing it when they claim that it would have been ok just to pretend like he cared.
you're obviously trolling, take care 
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On December 15 2011 09:32 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 09:29 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On December 15 2011 09:28 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 15 2011 09:27 Quintum_ wrote:On December 15 2011 09:03 DrGreen wrote:
Meaningless statements from both sides. Everyone knows whats going on on both sides and those statements are just a formal curtain. Of course Naniwa didn't grow up in last 24 hours, also its clear that reasoning behind revoking Naniwa's code S spot is pro-korean, GSL as the global league shouldn't use korean definition of the word "pro-gamer" they should look globally and consider opinion of whole world, not only koreans.. If a korean had done what naniwa did they would of gotten a ban from GSL for months. I'm not so sure that I believe that any more. Do you even watch the GSL / follow it? What happened to Coca? Read up bro!!!!! As far as I know, nothing from GOM happened to Coca at all. His coach punished him, which is totally fine, but nothing from GOM. And don't try the "Oh see they let Boxer punish him!" Uhh... no. You don't say: "you broke our rules, but some other guy is punishing you so it's cool" You either punish everyone the same way or you punish no one.
I cant say i am expert on korean culture but if you dont believe gom would of come down with very harsh banhammer for the coca incident then i dont know what to tell you.
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On December 15 2011 09:38 Namu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 09:32 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 15 2011 09:29 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On December 15 2011 09:28 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 15 2011 09:27 Quintum_ wrote:On December 15 2011 09:03 DrGreen wrote:
Meaningless statements from both sides. Everyone knows whats going on on both sides and those statements are just a formal curtain. Of course Naniwa didn't grow up in last 24 hours, also its clear that reasoning behind revoking Naniwa's code S spot is pro-korean, GSL as the global league shouldn't use korean definition of the word "pro-gamer" they should look globally and consider opinion of whole world, not only koreans.. If a korean had done what naniwa did they would of gotten a ban from GSL for months. I'm not so sure that I believe that any more. Do you even watch the GSL / follow it? What happened to Coca? Read up bro!!!!! As far as I know, nothing from GOM happened to Coca at all. His coach punished him, which is totally fine, but nothing from GOM. And don't try the "Oh see they let Boxer punish him!" Uhh... no. You don't say: "you broke our rules, but some other guy is punishing you so it's cool" You either punish everyone the same way or you punish no one. they said they deemed the team's punishment adequate meaning if the team didn't do anything they would've done something similar or just as severe how can you imply that gomtv would've done nothing even if the team did nothing...
Because they did nothing. I can imply that they would have done nothing because they did nothing.
I do not doubt that they would do exactly what their fans want them to, including throwing a player under the bus. However, I seriously doubt that many Korean fans would care, especially since they don't care when this happens all the time.
(FTR, the second sentence is not about Coca)
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