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On December 15 2011 09:54 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:

Actually you usually are playing for SOMETHING.

If not, then why the fuck do I care about watching it?

On December 15 2011 09:56 Govou wrote:


Usually? yes

always? no

still whoever is playing gives effort and such professional ethic is required in pretty much all the league I watch.

On December 15 2011 09:58 bobohobo wrote:
While his apology is a good thing, I wouldn't be so quick to believe him. After so many records of his bad mannerism, I think we should all reserve our judgement until the next time a similar situation arises and see how he handles the situation. He does not deserve immediate forgiveness of any sort from anyone at the moment.

On December 15 2011 09:57 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:

Why do you care if they pretend to give effort or not?

On December 15 2011 10:00 Govou wrote:


Actually, I think it's pretty common sense that doesn't even require furthur explanation. Anyway this is Naniwa thread and I wont derail it by engaging it with you. I have a feeling you will not accept my explanation no matter what I say.

If you really want to hear it more, then search around. Ive made comment about it many times today alone.

On December 15 2011 09:58 Teogamer wrote:
no one cared when idra went to sleep instead of playing his pool matches at the IPL finals, but naniwa is suddenly an antichrist for what he did at gsl.

this community is really getting worse as time goes on.

On December 15 2011 09:47 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:

I'm sorry but you do not let someone who is not affiliated with your organization punish the person for breaking a rule within your organization. That is horribly unprofessional. You cannot then claim that you have enforced anything. You didn't enforce or punish anything.

They SAY if the player was Korean he would have gotten worse. The only way I see that happening is if the fans asked for it, but I don't think they would.

On December 15 2011 10:02 ninjamyst wrote:


I am pretty sure people were pissed at Idra in the LR thread for IPL3. It wasn't as big of a deal but dont downplay it as if nothing happened.

On December 15 2011 10:04 Femari wrote:


And yes the Korean would've gotten worse. If you're Korean, you know the culture, you know how despised it is, you're not gonna do that and if you do then lol you're fucked.

On December 15 2011 09:50 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I'm glad MLB, NBA, NHL, and NFL teams don't try to forfeit games where both teams are unable to reach the playoffs. Huk's blame placed on GOM for supposedly poor tournament design is ridiculous in light of this. Look at how hard Matt Barkley and the rest of USC played this season even though they knew from game 1 that they couldn't play in a conference championship game or bowl game (for the uninitiated, see: http://lostangelesblog.wordpress.com/). That is how sports are to be played and life is to be lived.

This has absolutely nothing to do with any supposed cultural difference between Korea and NA / Europe. The OSL is the crown jewel of eSports, the shining example of how to make a computer game into an exciting cultural event. And just about every OSL round of 16 contains games between people who can't make the round of 8. I don't remember anyone throwing such games that badly. If a player did something that was suboptimal, they did something fun and creative for the fans, such as (I believe) Much trying to use Corsairs in PvT. Even though the Clippers are still not NBA Finals material with Blake Griffin, his enthusiasm and flashy dunks put more happy people in the seats.

The very first GOM event with Tasteless, the very first eSport event I ever watched, the GOM Star Invitational, had a group with both Nada and Boxer. Tasteless had been talking them up all tournament but by the time they faced off, they were both 0-2 and couldn't make the next round. They had no problem with showing up, getting in the booths, and putting on a great show. Imagine how much worse my first impression of eSports would have been, how much less seriously I would take it, had one of them blatantly lost on purpose. I might never have watched another tournament.

eSports is nascent; every day someone comes into contact with it the first time and for GOM TV and all of us who are trying to foster it, it is vital that we respect the virtues that keep its spirit alive. Losing a match on purpose, whether anyone bet on it or not, is unbecoming. Nobody on the other side of the planet wants to stay up until the wee hours of the morning to watch a sports show where at any time some player just might not feel like playing. That type of attitude is cancerous and NaNiWa already should have been on his best behavior given his team troubles, which makes his newest statement in response to his newest controversy too unreliable for GOM to keep him around for Code S.

The job of the eAthlete is to put their honest best effort into the contests. It doesn't matter if you are the supposed best actor in the world, if you talk like a robot on purpose and don't show up on set just because you think the movie sucks then you deserve to get fired.