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Witten
United States2094 Posts
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DrGreen
Poland708 Posts
I'm glad that GOM realized that the blizzcup format has flaws in it, but taking actions in Naniwa's case after submitting that it was their fault in some degree is kinda strange and unreasonable. Good luck too Naniwa. I hope you will crush some faces soon enough, too bad it probably won't be in GSL. Not anymore GSL fan. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On December 15 2011 08:44 Buddhist wrote: This increases my respect for naniwa. The only people who should be upset, if anyone, are his sponsors. They depend upon him playing games, even if said games are showmatches/meaningless. No one else does, especially not fans. I have lost a massive amount of respect for gomtv from this. They have punished him because of their emotions and cultural nonsense, not because he actually broke any rules. If anyone is unprofessional, it is gomtv, not naniwa. Naniwa played by the book, gomtv didn't. majority of sc2 community sees what naniwa did as wrong. he didnt break any rules but he dissed a lot of people. and people are glad a jerk/dick/ass/etc. was punished where usually they're let go freely since they didnt break any rules. you can say a person's moral value has no place in sports/esports/competition but surely, you must understand why people like boxer and whitera are respected by many. | ||
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Witten
United States2094 Posts
On December 15 2011 08:49 goldenwitch wrote: Makes me proud to be a Naniwa fan ...How? | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:03 jinorazi wrote: majority of sc2 community sees what naniwa did as wrong. he didnt break any rules but he dissed a lot of people. and people are glad a jerk/dick/ass/etc. was punished where usually they're let go freely since they didnt break any rules. you can say a person's moral value has no place in esports but surely, you must understand why people like boxer and whitera are respected by many. I think what many people hate about the situation is GomTV lack of moral value and transparency. They have show unreliability, lack of professionalism and bending of rules in their "favour" . | ||
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sirachman
United States270 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:03 jinorazi wrote: majority of sc2 community sees what naniwa did as wrong. he didnt break any rules but he dissed a lot of people. and people are glad a jerk/dick/ass/etc. was punished where usually they're let go freely since they didnt break any rules. you can say a person's moral value has no place in esports but surely, you must understand why people like boxer and whitera are respected by many. Different people have different morals. If this game is ever to be truly global people need to realize that and not harshly punish each other for different customs and ideas on morality. I bet everyone in Korea would be equally upset if a western league imposed a harsh penalty on a Korean over a cultural custom that Koreans did not share. If this is such an issue there needs to be some sort of global set of rules and standards including morality that can be put in the open for everyone to follow. Otherwise it is simply unfair to the fans, the players, and the tournament holders. | ||
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nekoconeco
Australia359 Posts
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skrzmark
United States1528 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:09 KAkos MAgos wrote: well dont apologize. idra ragequits and is badmannered too and no one says something. GOMTV is being sillly with its descision. comon. ITS A GAME WTF. thank go we are not like the koreans and take that whole gaming thing so seriously. that is why starcraft 2 is taken as a game... because of post like this, to korea it is a sport. | ||
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Demonaz
United Kingdom1219 Posts
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LiamTheZerg
United States523 Posts
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JayJay_90
Germany1632 Posts
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MasterBlasterCaster
United States568 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:09 skrzmark wrote: that is why starcraft 2 is taken as a game... because of post like this, to korea it is a sport. Well that is straight up wrong. Requiring "GG"? That's game behavior. Requiring a "love of the game"? That's game behavior. That isn't professional behavior. Requiring fake effort? That is game behavior, not professional sport behavior. GomTV is keeping SC2 as a little kiddie game. | ||
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ambrosiaa
Singapore333 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:10 LiamTheZerg wrote: It shocks me how many people think that Nani changed in 2 days. Who gives a fuck? It was a good apology and many of us liked him the way he was anyway. | ||
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Apachesc2
Sweden5 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:09 nekoconeco wrote: Good statement. Hopefully gom will now apologies for their bad format that has led to a number of poor quality games. Gomtv needs to learn from their mistakes too. I doubt GOM ever will confess their lies and faulty actions. Go f.. yourself GSL... | ||
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RHoudini
Belgium3631 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:10 LiamTheZerg wrote: It shocks me how many people think that Nani changed in 2 days. It's not about changing, it's about learning. You cannot change in two days, but you can learn in 5 minutes. | ||
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Widz
Sweden75 Posts
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:07 Eppa! wrote: I think what many people hate about the situation is GomTV lack of moral value and transparency. They have show unreliability, lack of professionalism and bending of rules in their "favour" . in my personal opinion, i agree with gomtv as i value attitude over skill. he indirectly dissed everyone that has respect for esports, a mistake but thats no excuse. in my neutral opinion, it would have been better for gom to contact the team and talk about what happened and make it clear such behavior isn't acceptable and move on with just a slap on the wrist, it was a emotional mistake after all. (punishment would have been harsher for a korean since most koreans have this professionalism mindset that players like boxer have. and dishonor is not taken lightly which i'm sure many understand by now) with gomtv's explanation, they said naniwa was being considered for code s spot, not given. what he was given was for blizzard cup. maybe it was lost in translation or misunderstanding between mlg/gom since there is no gsl in december and starting 2012, its a new format. maybe they're saying what they want for their own hidden motive of wanting to remove naniwa but whatever the case, it only speculation, conspiracy theory if you will. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
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MasterBlasterCaster
United States568 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:15 jinorazi wrote: i value attitude over skill. Than you do not care about professional sports. It's as simple as that. Go watch an amateur game then, where there is nothing on the line. | ||
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