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Quiescence
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada33 Posts
November 21 2011 05:03 GMT
#61
My wishlist:
-no more extended series,
-point decay in pool standing,
-last 1 or 2 places in pool play placed somewhere in the Losers Bracket so losing in pool actually mean something,
-distributed prize pool for the first 32 places instead of just top 8, even gesture prizes are fine,
-more than 5k first place for the non-final MLG tours so open bracket European players actually have an incentive to come,

-Reorganize championship Sunday so open bracket players won't die from exhaustion!
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
November 21 2011 06:57 GMT
#62
On November 21 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 12:47 m3rciless wrote:
What are the numbers for membership? Did mlg get 100k or what?

I saw a Tweet somewhere about being at 190k concurrent viewers during DRG vs Leenock


Best part is that that counts barcrafts as 1 viewer.
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
November 21 2011 07:07 GMT
#63
On November 21 2011 11:31 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 11:26 TheAuditor wrote:
I thought after that post Sundance has since changed and is talking about 4 seasons a year of online tournaments and the finals live. And then he was debating on a grand final for the year.

Also he tweeted somewhere asking the fans if they wanted $500,000 throughout the year and $1million final or $1 million throughout the year and $500,000 final

If that's the case, $1,250,000 throughout the year and $250,000 final.

Bigger prize pool means lower places get more $ which means more Korean and European talent especially will come for the events.

I'd also like to see the return of MLG Atlanta, because that's where I'm from, but that's very unlikely.
Raleigh is only a 6 hour drive, and Orlando is only like 9, so it's do-able for me.

Well 1250,000 throughout the year spread at 4 events makes the final smaller than the regular season
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
November 21 2011 07:34 GMT
#64
No extended series, etc would be nice.
But the suggestions you gave were huge, and I don't think are going to happen.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Legace
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden342 Posts
November 21 2011 10:23 GMT
#65
On November 21 2011 12:42 SMD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 12:33 cyberspace wrote:
MLG drops LoL and picks up Dota 2.


Im not sure tho, how many people play Dota? because apparently 35 million play LoL.....I don't know numbers, but i'd imagine they'd go with whichever game has more potential viewers.



A boatload of people play the Sims too, that doesn't make it a good e-sport game though.
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
November 21 2011 10:27 GMT
#66
On November 21 2011 19:23 Legace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 12:42 SMD wrote:
On November 21 2011 12:33 cyberspace wrote:
MLG drops LoL and picks up Dota 2.


Im not sure tho, how many people play Dota? because apparently 35 million play LoL.....I don't know numbers, but i'd imagine they'd go with whichever game has more potential viewers.



A boatload of people play the Sims too, that doesn't make it a good e-sport game though.


wait sims has multiplayer?
Legace
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 10:30:31
November 21 2011 10:30 GMT
#67
On November 21 2011 19:27 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 19:23 Legace wrote:
On November 21 2011 12:42 SMD wrote:
On November 21 2011 12:33 cyberspace wrote:
MLG drops LoL and picks up Dota 2.


Im not sure tho, how many people play Dota? because apparently 35 million play LoL.....I don't know numbers, but i'd imagine they'd go with whichever game has more potential viewers.



A boatload of people play the Sims too, that doesn't make it a good e-sport game though.


wait sims has multiplayer?



Schh, don't tell anyone!

Regardless, hypothetically, if that where the case, point still stands.

Same goes for, say, World of Warcraft.
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
November 21 2011 10:38 GMT
#68
somehow i think providence was less awesome than orlando, despite the player pool and prize pool.

i think MLGs must be held no closer together than 2 months, or else all the excitement is lost..

that way more planning can be made to each event, stages, seats, open bracket matches can all be made more comfortable and more pleasant experience for everyone
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
November 21 2011 10:44 GMT
#69
On November 21 2011 19:38 ThePlayer33 wrote:
somehow i think providence was less awesome than orlando, despite the player pool and prize pool.

i think MLGs must be held no closer together than 2 months, or else all the excitement is lost..

that way more planning can be made to each event, stages, seats, open bracket matches can all be made more comfortable and more pleasant experience for everyone


The only thing Orlando had over Providence was the crowd. Columbus, Anaheim, and Orlando had some of the best crowds this season. They cheered at appropriate times and always stayed loud. I would be surprised if MLG doesn't return to those places.
dakalro
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania525 Posts
November 21 2011 10:47 GMT
#70
Even if they do remove extended series, if the tournament stays double elimination then the final should always be WB champ needs to win 1xBo3 while LB champ needs to win 2xBo3. Anything else favors the LB champ simply for having lost a series once and still being in the tournament.

Extended series in a short tournament is good, it takes into account the performance balance between two players over 1-2 days. Should we not take into account the fact that Nani had won over DRG 1 hour before finals, had DRG won over Leenock?
fleeze
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany895 Posts
November 21 2011 14:40 GMT
#71
As MLG wants to support E-Sports they should pick up the relevant titles first and drop the console games.

- FPS: Quake
- Team-FPS: CS 1.6 (or GO if it's accepted)
- RTS: SC2
- Dota: Dota2 (not LOL)

Those games have the most respected Communities and the biggest viewerbase (Dota > LOL, comparing watchability as a spectator).

For the tourneys itself:
Drop Extended Series
Do something so Pool Players aren't seeded automatically and lose their spots (seeding them into Open Bracket in earlier Rounds!)
Ladnil
Profile Joined July 2011
United States93 Posts
November 21 2011 16:57 GMT
#72
The following is a bit of what I have gathered from Sundance's various leaks and teases.

-2012 to be divided into 4 seasons where they will host competitions both online and in their studios in Texas (where JP is based) and New York (where most of MLG is based). Each season culminates in a big event weekend comparable to what they ran this weekend in Providence, with a possible 5th event as a Grand Championship type of deal.

-Dramatically increased prize pools.

-40 weeks a year of live content, but not necessarily every game every week in order to prevent oversaturation. Might be SC2/Halo one week and Gears/LoL the next for example.

-The MLG Global Invitational was sort of a beta test for the online component of next year’s system, and points towards seeding at the big live events will be able to be earned online.

-More ways into the pools (and by extension out of them). The online component mentioned, but also the possibility of local feeder tournaments.


Lots of this info came from the vVv podcast interview Sundance did a while back that you can listen to here. Also the MLG FAQ Episode 1 has a bit of good stuff. Twitter and other interviews from events are also good sources of leaks for anyone who really feels like spending a few hours playing Internet Detective.
Have a nice day.
PopcornColonel
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
November 23 2011 00:39 GMT
#73
I really hope MLG becomes the new GSL or even surpasses the GSL. From what Sundance was saying in an interview, it definitely sounds like it may.

"Providence has made other past MLGs look tiny. Hopefully in 2012 we can make Providence look tiny as well."
Zerg delenda est.
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
November 23 2011 00:41 GMT
#74
ETA of 2012 announcement?
I'm Quotable (IQ)
Grackodile
Profile Joined January 2011
United States263 Posts
November 23 2011 00:48 GMT
#75
On November 23 2011 09:41 archonOOid wrote:
ETA of 2012 announcement?

Historically, MLG has always made season announcements starting around January and leaks the locations of events gradually from then on.
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
PopcornColonel
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
November 23 2011 01:22 GMT
#76
On November 21 2011 23:40 fleeze wrote:
As MLG wants to support E-Sports they should pick up the relevant titles first and drop the console games.

- FPS: Quake
- Team-FPS: CS 1.6 (or GO if it's accepted)
- RTS: SC2
- Dota: Dota2 (not LOL)

Those games have the most respected Communities and the biggest viewerbase (Dota > LOL, comparing watchability as a spectator).

For the tourneys itself:
Drop Extended Series
Do something so Pool Players aren't seeded automatically and lose their spots (seeding them into Open Bracket in earlier Rounds!)

I'm gonna have to agree here. Maybe not with the Dota part [I don't think there should be any dota whatsoever. It's like a minigame.], but yes with the removing Console games. If anyone has gone to an MLG, they would literally all support the fact that there were immense amount of open chairs in the Halo and Cod sections, while people were standing in the aisles, behind the chairs, even going back to the open bracket computers. SC2 has taken over, and they need to acknowledge that.
Zerg delenda est.
Spaceneil8
Profile Joined February 2011
United States317 Posts
November 23 2011 02:05 GMT
#77
On November 23 2011 10:22 PopcornColonel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 23:40 fleeze wrote:
As MLG wants to support E-Sports they should pick up the relevant titles first and drop the console games.

- FPS: Quake
- Team-FPS: CS 1.6 (or GO if it's accepted)
- RTS: SC2
- Dota: Dota2 (not LOL)

Those games have the most respected Communities and the biggest viewerbase (Dota > LOL, comparing watchability as a spectator).

For the tourneys itself:
Drop Extended Series
Do something so Pool Players aren't seeded automatically and lose their spots (seeding them into Open Bracket in earlier Rounds!)

I'm gonna have to agree here. Maybe not with the Dota part [I don't think there should be any dota whatsoever. It's like a minigame.], but yes with the removing Console games. If anyone has gone to an MLG, they would literally all support the fact that there were immense amount of open chairs in the Halo and Cod sections, while people were standing in the aisles, behind the chairs, even going back to the open bracket computers. SC2 has taken over, and they need to acknowledge that.

To think Quake, CS, and Dota will get more open bracket attendees and live attendees than console games is pretty dumb. Halo is MLG's heart and soul. And with 343i making Halo 4. It has a bright future.

Also, MLG has a wide variety of games, and I don't see them dropping console games any time at all.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 23 2011 02:07 GMT
#78
On November 21 2011 14:03 Quiescence wrote:
My wishlist:
-no more extended series,
-point decay in pool standing,
-last 1 or 2 places in pool play placed somewhere in the Losers Bracket so losing in pool actually mean something,
-distributed prize pool for the first 32 places instead of just top 8, even gesture prizes are fine,
-more than 5k first place for the non-final MLG tours so open bracket European players actually have an incentive to come,

-Reorganize championship Sunday so open bracket players won't die from exhaustion!


They do. Only 1st place in pool play gets into the winners bracket. Rest go into the losers bracket but depending on place between 2-5 you get further up the higher in the group you place.
When I think of something else, something will go here
ScaSully
Profile Joined April 2011
United States488 Posts
November 23 2011 02:20 GMT
#79
mlg chicago one of the biggest cities in the world come on obama is from here. hopefully sundance is scrolling through this thread and he is an obama fan.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 02:32:01
November 23 2011 02:31 GMT
#80
On November 21 2011 19:30 Legace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 19:27 zaii wrote:
On November 21 2011 19:23 Legace wrote:
On November 21 2011 12:42 SMD wrote:
On November 21 2011 12:33 cyberspace wrote:
MLG drops LoL and picks up Dota 2.


Im not sure tho, how many people play Dota? because apparently 35 million play LoL.....I don't know numbers, but i'd imagine they'd go with whichever game has more potential viewers.



A boatload of people play the Sims too, that doesn't make it a good e-sport game though.


wait sims has multiplayer?



Schh, don't tell anyone!

Regardless, hypothetically, if that where the case, point still stands.

Same goes for, say, World of Warcraft.

how is dota2 better.
isnt it more of the same

the only thing dota2 can have up on lol is the pace of the game. Is that the case?
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