I actually think that finding this is a good thing, since it seems like some of the baneling ineffectiveness was unintentional-- since it's on the PTR, perhaps blizzard will revert it.

Logros

Netherlands9913 Posts

September 12 2011 17:18 GMT

#42

It looks like it will just require a little bit more micro but that it can still be done just like before.

TheKefka

Croatia11752 Posts

September 12 2011 17:18 GMT

#43

After watching the video like for the 10th time now I'm almost positive it isn't working as intended from reading the notes.I'm pretty sure bane drops won't go anywhere.

ohampatu

United States1448 Posts

September 12 2011 17:18 GMT

#44

I haven't watched video, at work so can't, but had some comments/questions.

This affect terran as well? Will be nice if we can sim city to mitigate rauder drops. Cause currently, its about 10x easier to perform a double rauder drop than it is to defend against it. Most terrans queue it up and never look at it again since they just focus on the push into the middle why they do the drop. So my question? Your only mentioning Z, does this happen with T drops and with P drops as well?

Also for people hating on this. It is a bug fix. You should not be able to drop a unit onto a piece of ground thats already being covered by something else (although personally banes prolly shouldn't be included, just other units imo). Making you requeue once you have sight is nice as well. They prolly working on code so dont freak out yet if its not acting perfect.

N3rV[Green]

United States1935 Posts

September 12 2011 17:18 GMT

#45

Baneling drops were just really really really fucking scary. I for one am glad I won't be seeing my ENTIRE ARMY turn into green goo while I can't move them cause they're all fungaled.

Grackodile

United States263 Posts

September 12 2011 17:18 GMT

#46

This is pretty dumb honesty. Now it seems like you basically have to go roach hydra corruptor with some infestors. This is just encouraging protoss to just sit back and 1a with colossus and win. TT

crms

United States11933 Posts

September 12 2011 17:19 GMT

#47

so they don't want Z to beat P unless its a roach/ling allin within 10m? got it.

this patch is ridiculous.

ZAiNs

United Kingdom6525 Posts

September 12 2011 17:19 GMT

#48

The notes definitely do not match what is going on in the video. Baneling drops may or may not be too strong, but I think the updated Baneling drops are definitely over-nerfed.

Herculix

United States946 Posts

September 12 2011 17:19 GMT

#49

how many times is this now where we figure out something cool for zerg and it gets removed from the game? it's happened a couple times for other races but jesus christ, seriously? no more baneling bombs? i might just switch race purely based off the fact that interesting tactics will never last very long -_______-

Sea_Food

Finland1612 Posts

September 12 2011 17:19 GMT

#50

if the patch note says its only in foggex area, but your test show that it is also on visible area. Dosnt that mean its just a bug that will be fixed?

Chill

Calgary25981 Posts

September 12 2011 17:19 GMT

#51

Crazy. These changes are getting more and more absurd. It seems we should just go to 200/200 and a move into each other.

unit

United States2621 Posts

September 12 2011 17:19 GMT

#52

this is overkill, all blizzard is doing now is killing the things that beat protoss in zvp making it so that p will crush z on a very consistent basis with just mass colossus again, as well as p will still lose to t allins at the pro level...blizz is just making it a sad time to be a zerg a very sad time

-i play protoss and the occasional zerg

i feel like zerg is going to have trouble with terran mech with mass thor in addition to the new zvp problems that will come from this, but im not 100% sure

edit: i do believe that either protoss needed to be buffed or fungal/it needed to be nerfed maybe...but this...just T___T blizz

TolEranceNA

Canada434 Posts

September 12 2011 17:19 GMT

#53

On September 13 2011 02:16 windsupernova wrote:
This sounds like a bug, it will probably get fixed before the patch releases.

I don´t know why all the rage..... its seriously getting stupid.

Edit: And lol, why so many people act as if Zerg had a 0 winrate a few months ago? It was P favoured but the stats show that it was never something ridiculous. Gosh

I don't know why so many hate for rage..... it is seriously getting absurd and stupid.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

September 12 2011 17:20 GMT

#54

On September 13 2011 02:08 Chicane wrote:

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Ya I wish they had the fog turned on. If it doesn't work when in vision of the units, that's obviously a problem, but other than that, the only overlords that should be affected by this are the ones in front, and usually those don't even have banelings in them.

If anything, zerg players will just have to drop a second time if they are chasing the army. I don't think this will make baneling drops useless, unless they literally cannot drop them on a protoss army at all if it is too dense.

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Do you have anything to contribute other than trying to call me out for not watching a video that I did, and being rude? If not, then go away.

I'm slightly confused. Are you talking about how it hypothetically should work or what is shown in the video. Most of what you seem to be talking about is hypothetical?

ZAiNs

United Kingdom6525 Posts

September 12 2011 17:20 GMT

#55

On September 13 2011 02:19 Herculix wrote:
how many times is this now where we figure out something cool for zerg and it gets removed from the game? it's happened a couple times for other races but jesus christ, seriously? no more baneling bombs? i might just switch race purely based off the fact that interesting tactics will never last very long -_______-

Remind me of the multiple times where something like this has happened before?

flodeskum

Iceland1267 Posts

September 12 2011 17:20 GMT

#56

This looks more like a bug than a stealth nerf.

Dimon87

Sweden218 Posts

September 12 2011 17:21 GMT

#57

You guys not seeing how this is a big change are so dense its unbelievable.

I hope this is unintended

windsupernova

Mexico5280 Posts

September 12 2011 17:21 GMT

#58

On September 13 2011 02:18 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Baneling drops were just really really really fucking scary. I for one am glad I won't be seeing my ENTIRE ARMY turn into green goo while I can't move them cause they're all fungaled.

Well, the counter for that was... spliting your army and sniping the bananalings :D

agff

Portugal39 Posts

September 12 2011 17:21 GMT

#59

Did I get it wrong or does the change mean that we have to issue the drop command once we get vision of the army? It doesn't mean they cannot drop on top of them, but at the moment of the order you have to have vision of the target right?
I am pretty confused

I hope this doesn't stop baneling drops, because they were really useful and fun to use.

NotSorry

United States6722 Posts

September 12 2011 17:22 GMT

#60

Have done this countless times on PTR in real game scenarios and it still works just the same, just have to get vision with first ovie and then issue the commands. The video posted is pointless because never in a game will you see shit that perfectly clumped to allow no spacing so stop the crying.