Ok so I don't know why all these haters are hating on gomtv here. Here's what I have to say to all yall haters: stop hating.

GSTL used to be like a 4 day thing, so they charged like A DOLLAR for it and didn't make money, but it was popular, and epic, and had tons of drama and tension as the teams squared off-- you could see all the great rivalries and see good players before they broke onto the main stages (MMA anyone?). Everyone loved it, and the clamored for more; "why is GSTL a side show? I want team leagues to be bigger, tournament style, more of a main thing!"

And so, GomTv decided that it was time to bring Team League to the next level, and give it lots of time, every week, 2 days a week. Because of the number of games involved, this would be spread out over 2 months and would have 6 times as many games as the previous GSTL setup-- due to the increased cost of providing SIX TIMES AS MUCH CONTENT, gomtv rightfully decided to increase the cost by LESS THAN SIX TIMES, because they're nice people.

And what do you do? you complain. Well, Gomtv has reacted to the community asking for more team league by giving us more team league, just what we want, at a LOWER PER UNIT PRICE. There's nothing to discuss here.

eXigent.

Canada2419 Posts

June 17 2011 17:09 GMT

#242

IMO my only problem with charging a much larger fee is that their overall video quality is not the best that it could be. If you look at some peoples streams on TL.net, like HasHe's for example, the quality is amazing. Everything looks soo sharp and crisp. The GSL ingame quality although completely fine, is still nowhere near as nice to look at as regular TL streamers. For $25 or $40 I would of at least enjoyed having that amazing ingame quality.

1st_Panzer_Div.

United States621 Posts

June 17 2011 17:09 GMT

#243

It's about the same price as the other GSL events when you look at how long this one lasts compared to other ones. Plus the GSTL is almost always way more kickass than the regular season GSL.

The non-ad one is too expensive though; but whatever I don't really mind waiting through a short ad before the games.

(If it climbs any further though I may look to alternative sc sources; they are a LOT of free ones out there, and while inferior in almost every way... if the regular one goes up beyond 25; that'll be too much)

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

June 17 2011 17:42 GMT

#244

On June 18 2011 02:09 eXigent. wrote:
IMO my only problem with charging a much larger fee is that their overall video quality is not the best that it could be. If you look at some peoples streams on TL.net, like HasHe's for example, the quality is amazing. Everything looks soo sharp and crisp. The GSL ingame quality although completely fine, is still nowhere near as nice to look at as regular TL streamers. For $25 or $40 I would of at least enjoyed having that amazing ingame quality.

That would be true, and an entirely valid criticism if gomtv was charging a larger fee. However, they are charging a smaller per-unit fee, so I'm not sure that's a valid criticism.

Mordiford

4448 Posts

June 17 2011 17:45 GMT

#245

It seems quite high, I don't know if you can really scale it up this way. $25 is asking a fair amount for an experience with ads when in comparison to some other stuff we have available now.

KillerPlague

United States1386 Posts

June 17 2011 17:45 GMT

#246

i think other should be never intended on purchasing :S but imo for 2+ months of content for $25 is nothing.

JiYan

United States3668 Posts

June 17 2011 17:49 GMT

#247

yea these passes are getting kinda high. i dont know if this is part of their business model to gradually increase prices, or if they think the demand for this league is that high, but its getting to a point where its just turning me off to gom. they keep raising prices too high and it has raised eyebrows more than just once now.

Dave.

Ireland272 Posts

June 17 2011 17:52 GMT

#248

Seems like a reasonable price for the amount of content, I happily paid the 5 dollars when GSTL was 4 days long, so I don't have a problem paying 25 dollars when its 2 and a half months long.

Mephiztopheles1

1124 Posts

June 17 2011 17:52 GMT

#249

Shouldn't have voted without reading first the whole thing.
Anyway, OP says a month long GSL costs 10 bucks and a two and a half months long GSTL 25. I don't see how that is unfair, provided his assumption that it won't have that "feel" is merely an assumption, nothing else. I'm buying it.
May have to do with me still watching proleague every chance I get, but I really don't see how an almost three months long league for 25 bucks is a bad thing.

beridoxy

France54 Posts

June 17 2011 17:55 GMT

#250

Season one of GOMTV was at the very start discussed to be at 50$ ! Then gom made it to 19.95$.

Back that day VOD were awful like 360p and got problems with the cast, like an idra match where the camera was not on the action for like 5mn. Matches were awful by today standard, but the game was not really figured out. So now we got 3 months matchs with better quality and better commentating. Well if you don't want to pay don't get it. I am pretty sure many people will never pay to see starcraft games, and well I understand mosty.

The price is now at a high psycological price. And there are no discounts after seasons as far as i know. I really understand all discussion but it's only because price is more than 20.

Only thing i expect from GOM is to upgrade the quality like they did in season 2, for the VOD.
Actually VOD 720p at 1100 variable bitrate, with MP3 audio at 128Kps.
It's fine, but a little bit more would not hurt if they can.

sjschmidt93

United States2518 Posts

June 17 2011 17:55 GMT

#251

On June 18 2011 01:22 ragnorr wrote:

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The adds is a little box you click away like on youtube etc, i hardly notice it and you save 10 $

The ads are the 30 second videos before every set of every match that have a RIDICULOUS volume level.

Terranist

United States2496 Posts

June 17 2011 18:00 GMT

#252

On June 18 2011 02:55 sjschmidt93 wrote:

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The ads are the 30 second videos before every set of every match that have a RIDICULOUS volume level.

my roommate can hear the TSL uses GSKILL ram ad through the wall... and i wear headphones.

Rareware

Canada340 Posts

June 17 2011 18:01 GMT

#253

idk, the season lasts from June 23 to October 7 so I can live with it if I'm only paying every once in a while.

nvs.

Canada3609 Posts

June 17 2011 18:01 GMT

#254

$40 dollars for adless content?

That's a little too steep for me. O_o

Powerhunger

7 Posts

June 17 2011 18:02 GMT

#255

I think it's worth the cost, the initial price may be high, but it gives you more access to a pretty unique and (normally) interesting SC2 tournament with extremely high level play. I don't see many substitutes for the GSTL.

Terranist

United States2496 Posts

June 17 2011 18:09 GMT

#256

gom better be careful. for this much money people might finally start turning to torrents.

Ketara

United States15065 Posts

June 17 2011 18:10 GMT

#257

If they drop it to 20$ for ads I would probably get that.

25$ is a little too steep to me. Even if it costs less per match, it's still more at once.

DeltruS

Canada2214 Posts

June 17 2011 18:10 GMT

#258

Gom.tv should really adopt a system with GOM dollars, where buying large amounts of GOM dollars results in a larger Dollar to GOM Dollar conversion.

If someone is going to buy every tournament, it should be pretty cheap, not close to the price of a MMO subsciption.