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Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
May 19 2011 15:58 GMT
#81
On May 19 2011 11:21 Veritask wrote:
I don't think you need to change the format when it works. I think it's the best one out there as far as getting new players in while keeping the good players.

Sports generally get a system and keep it because it works.

The thing is, the format that tournaments like eg master cup uses doesnt really work, it's boring.
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
May 19 2011 15:58 GMT
#82
Are there even 16 noteworthy teams in Korea?
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 16:07:20
May 19 2011 16:06 GMT
#83
On May 20 2011 00:58 branflakes14 wrote:
Are there even 16 noteworthy teams in Korea?


Read the first post carefully.
edit:
vanTuni
Profile Joined October 2009
389 Posts
May 19 2011 16:12 GMT
#84
Basically, what we need is a WC3L for SC2.


.... Baschi? Niels? Shawn? Doso? cmon get it going!
BaronFel
Profile Joined July 2009
United States155 Posts
May 19 2011 16:15 GMT
#85
WC3L was similar to EG Masters in format (varying amounts of set 1v1/2v2's). I believe most of you are thinking of NGL (KotH format). Although a WC3L for sc2 would be awesome.
vanTuni
Profile Joined October 2009
389 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 16:20:17
May 19 2011 16:19 GMT
#86
WC3L's format was changed a couple of times. Anyways, I agree that a KotH-Style is the most exciting. What I meant tho, was the idea of having a "Champions-League" for SC2, run by the most experienced admin team out there.

RinconH
Profile Joined April 2010
United States512 Posts
May 19 2011 16:20 GMT
#87
I love the GSTL as well but the entire premise of this post is flawed to me.

The GSL is a far more entertaining tournament that any others out there and that includes the TSL.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
May 19 2011 16:24 GMT
#88
Regardless I think this would be fun.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
noproblem
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom161 Posts
May 19 2011 16:28 GMT
#89
Guess OP missed the GCPL then.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GCPL
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Beastyqt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Serbia516 Posts
May 19 2011 16:29 GMT
#90
On May 20 2011 01:28 noproblem wrote:
Guess OP missed the GCPL then.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GCPL


/facepalm did you ever watch GSTL?
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Krimancer
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden150 Posts
May 19 2011 16:32 GMT
#91
I welcome the idea but I think there is alot of new things going on atm and it is too soon to say what works and what doesn't and if there is room for more at this time. I'm sure many sponsors and descision makers have plenty of ideas and over time I think we will see plenty of different formats.
ArneX
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden24 Posts
May 19 2011 16:36 GMT
#92
What happend to the NGL one dudes, they did a good job with this format.
JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
May 19 2011 16:50 GMT
#93
Can think of 12 Noteworthy foreigner teams that have a roster to complete this.

Empire, Mouz, TeamLiquid, EG, Dignitas, Fnatic, Millenium, Sixjax, Complexity, Root, mym and FXO
The remaining 4 spots could be determined through a qualifier. This would give some up-and-coming teams the oportunity to show what they are made of!

Would be awesome to see something like this, preferly a league but a tournament would also be cool! I know there are other teams like mTw with players like Dimaga but they dont have a full roster to do something like this!

Someone with money / power, Make this happen!
Simply Awesome! - Liquid'Ret - NSHoSeo_Seal - coLMVP_DRG - EG_Idra - Fnatic.NightEnd
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 19 2011 17:14 GMT
#94
the OPs main question why isn't there one comes down to organisations i think. 'everyone' loves the korean formats of team leagues but in the online setting the question of servers come up. so far in the bid to grow american esports this has resulted in NA server favoritism. we can't blame them, the people behind the gcpl, nasl, egmc etc are putting in the work and for them this means they deserve the home ground advantage.

either there needs to be an agreement that 'for esports!' no longer means, for america, or some european organisations need to step and start making things happen. either backing a european advantage in their league, or promoting server switching to take the moral high ground and hopefully attract every high level team, rather than losing out on team of a watery nature
VPC
Profile Joined May 2010
United States135 Posts
May 19 2011 17:30 GMT
#95
Ahh I miss the days of the Wc3L... Just what you were looking for.
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
May 19 2011 18:03 GMT
#96
Can people please read the OP? What beastyqt is asking for is a EU+NA team tournament with a system like the GSTL, something that has not been done with all the best teams + some lesser known teams outside of korean.

Allthough, my own opinion would be that a old school pro league system running over a long period of time would be the most fun. But I would not say no to a tournament that beasty is talking about. I think it would be more rewarding to the spectator than the team leagues we have seen and are watching atm.
-,-
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
May 19 2011 18:11 GMT
#97
On May 20 2011 01:36 ArneX wrote:
What happend to the NGL one dudes, they did a good job with this format.

They didn't really have sponsors for both leagues

BaLoO-
Profile Joined January 2011
France318 Posts
May 19 2011 18:13 GMT
#98
There are too much things happening at the moment, the scene is just overcrowded. You can basically connect at every hour of the day, and thanks to different hours time there are allways tournaments running. I really mean it is too much. Basically there are lots of events happening which should be absolutely awesome, but there's no audience, with 10 tournaments running every day no one can follow everything.

Take the StarsWars for exemple, it is incredibly great : 32 freaking great players, including for the first time top of China, big prize pool, finals held live in Shanghaï. So to be honest the only real difference with TSL on paper is a smaller prize pool, and still it doesn't find a "big" audience ...

If you want to have GSTL outside Korea, stop doing 20 team leagues that no one follows, get sponsors together and make something so huge that you will meet no concurrence. There's a lot of money to sponsor SC2 things at the moment, but it is way too widespread, better 1 tournament with 100k$ and 5 with 10k$ than 15 with 10k$.
noproblem
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom161 Posts
May 19 2011 19:22 GMT
#99
On May 20 2011 01:29 Beastyqt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 01:28 noproblem wrote:
Guess OP missed the GCPL then.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GCPL


/facepalm did you ever watch GSTL?


Facepalm yourself, you missed my point.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 19 2011 19:24 GMT
#100
I would love to see a league of like 16 teams battle it out KOTH style weekly. That would be the best thing ever
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
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