EPTPerformance Enhancing Drug in Starcraft 2? Yes. - Page 29
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TelecoM
United States10700 Posts
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bypLy
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zelevin
United States316 Posts
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
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GiveMeCake
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On April 13 2015 13:59 brickrd wrote: anyone should be allowed to do anything they want to their body and if it makes them better at sports they have every right to take advantage This is an endless discussion, but no it's not fair because records are set in sports. In 10 years if some new super performance enhancing drug is released and everyone may or may not be on it old records mean nothing. It also forces people who DON'T use these drugs to then use them to compete. | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On April 13 2015 14:15 GiveMeCake wrote: This is an endless discussion, but no it's not fair because records are set in sports. In 10 years if some new super performance enhancing drug is released and everyone may or may not be on it old records mean nothing. It also forces people who DON'T use these drugs to then use them to compete. no it actually doesn't force anyone to do anything? your argument is complete nonsense, it's like saying that modern athletes shouldn't be allowed to use current medical science to train their bodies and recover from injuries because the athletes of 50 years ago didn't have access to them. every era has its own context, the world is constantly changing and it's ludicrous to imagine that you can permanently neutralize the skill environment. you can just as easily argue that it's "unfair" that athletes or e-athletes who grow up with a lot of money and access to coaching, equipment, etc. have an easier path to going pro, but that's life. some people are willing to make sacrifices, some people are born into a strong environment, some people don't have the motivation or don't want to take risks. there's no morality to it, it just is. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
Poll: Do we ban Minors on Adderall by instruction of parents and doctor? No, don't ban them from esports events. (12) Yes, ban them from esports events. (6) 18 total votes Your vote: Do we ban Minors on Adderall by instruction of parents and doctor? (Vote): Yes, ban them from esports events. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
I would call that concentration. It's not something you can just snap into, but it is a virtue that you should practice and it won't be a problem to get into that state of mind. | ||
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Starfirexiii
United States3 Posts
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tar
Germany991 Posts
On April 13 2015 13:59 brickrd wrote: anyone should be allowed to do anything they want to their body and if it makes them better at sports they have every right to take advantage It's not about what athletes should or should not be allowed to do with their bodies. Many illegal doping measures are not illegal from a drug enforcement point of view. In sports, ethics play a rather big role: sports competitions do not deem maximum possible performance as the highest good (that would mean allowing all ways to achieve this, including doping but also technical aids, unfair-play, etc) but rather hard work through training of body and mind (ie discipline). In this context performance loses its value if it's based on the use of doping thus the need to ban doping in the first place. Imo, the same applies for eSports. Hard work and dedication (and of course talent) should lead to great games, not the use of drugs. | ||
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bduddy
United States1326 Posts
On April 15 2015 00:59 vaderseven wrote: If it's legitimately prescribed, of course it should be allowed. That's open for abuse, though - I remember reading that something like 40% of the Seattle Seahawks had "diagnoses of ADD" and "prescriptions for Adderall". Hopefully eSports teams wouldn't do the same thing, but...If a minor is on said medication by instruction of parent and doctor should they be banned from esports? That is the kind of question that must be asked if a real ban was to ever actually be considered. | ||
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Wuster
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On April 15 2015 01:24 GreEny K wrote: "giving them the ability to completely remove themselves from their surroundings and be totally focused on the game? " I would call that concentration. It's not something you can just snap into, but it is a virtue that you should practice and it won't be a problem to get into that state of mind. Yes and there's a reason adderall is heavily abused in US colleges, especially Medical School (can't speak internationally, but I wouldn't be surprised). It's because it literally does snap you into focus (well that may be an exaggeration), it's what it's designed for after all. | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On April 15 2015 02:38 Wuster wrote: Yes and there's a reason adderall is heavily abused in US colleges, especially Medical School (can't speak internationally, but I wouldn't be surprised). It's because it literally does snap you into focus (well that may be an exaggeration), it's what it's designed for after all. Mm, I've taken cocaine to help me focus and stop procrastinating, and it helps me play SC2 as well. My APM goes up by like, twenty. Haha. | ||
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gorbonic
United States73 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On April 15 2015 02:43 Larkin wrote: Mm, I've taken cocaine to help me focus and stop procrastinating, and it helps me play SC2 as well. My APM goes up by like, twenty. Haha. I know of a lot of things people take to focus more and better, but cocaine sure isn't the cheapest one d: | ||
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tar
Germany991 Posts
On April 15 2015 02:51 OtherWorld wrote: I know of a lot of things become take to focus more and better, but cocaine sure isn't the cheapest one d: If you've got it, flaunt it  | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On April 15 2015 02:51 OtherWorld wrote: I know of a lot of things become take to focus more and better, but cocaine sure isn't the cheapest one d: The other options don't quite feel so good. Haha. | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
It's an amazing drug to take a few times a year. Gives incredible euphoria, concentration, and more importantly MOTIVATION to do anything. But... it's not good for long term practice or studying since you crash for 24 hours after using (time which could've been spent working). It could be good for a 1 day tournament, though the signs of use are apparent if you look for them. Restlessness, twitching, rubbing lips and tongue, talking fast etc. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
That might make Blizzcon more interesting take every opportunity you have  | ||
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