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And to people complaining about not being able to get in unless your a well known player
This is a quote from Incontrol in an interview on G4 about the qualification process:
Can you talk more about the qualification process?
Yeah absolutely. Russ, from GosuCoaching, is the mastermind behind this whole thing and has this whole thing mapped out to a T. There is no teams, but every team is going to be maxed out at five players. There's not going to be like nine Evil Geniuses guys or eight Liquid guys. It will be five of the best from every team at most. Most likely it will be three or four of the players from each team. And then every player is supposed to be backed by a $250 refundable fee. Essentially what it is, is every time they're rude or they're late or any kind of unforeseeable problems occur they'll be penalized $25 or $50 and that comes out of the refundable fee of course. But most people, hopefully all, will be completely and immaculately fine and will get that $250 back. But the idea is to make them accountable.
Each team player will be put in a different division, so no one will hit a member of their team in their division so there will be no HuK vs. Ret in divisional play. And then it will take over the course of nine weeks in their division and the top two advance. And then with that top two there's another qualification process as well. Ten players per division will play, it takes nine weeks to play everyone in their division. There is also a playoff week where we decide the other 5 seats into the finals (10 seeds form divisional play, 5 from playoffs and one from open).
We're also going to have an open tournament so even the people that aren't qualifiers from this they're also going to be able to enter a 1,000 man open tournament and then the number one player from that is in the final sixteen. So it's kind of cool. Definitely team generated in the sense that if you're on a top professional team, if you're one of the top fifty non-Koreans in this tournament, but even if you're not, you can prove your worth through the open. And the second and third and fourth place people will also get rewards from the open. The second one gets flown to the offline final in LA and they're the first replacement. So if someone can't make it for Visa issues, they get sick, or they just don't show, which would be ludicrous, that person is the first one in line. And then third and fourth get auto birthed into season two.
Read more: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/710588/North-American-Star-League-Exclusive-Interview-with-Geoff-iNcontroL-Robinson.html#ixzz1EeBXtggQ
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Go Go GO SeleCT~and Artosis(lol)
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On February 22 2011 10:30 Fojji wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 09:36 deerpark87 wrote:
where can i vote oGsMC/IMMVP/Nestea? I can't seem to be able to vote for the best players.
this. sorry but this is just another EG masters cup to me
Well at least you know when to be sorry for having a bad opinion. Comparing EG masters cup to a tournament going for 9+ weeks 5 days a week for 3 hours a night with 100k for season 1, 100k for season 2, and 200k for season three? With 50 of the games top players?
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I know I'm not the only one when I say I'm not worried about bad players making it into those 50 spots, but rather great players not making it due to low exposure. There are tons of people that float in and out of the top200 on ladder who are PHENOMENAL players.
What's more, this defies the very spirit of eSports. One of the best parts about eSports is that everybody gets to compete with the best of the best. Not many people get to play basketball with LeBron, but how cool is it that I may get matched up against TLO or Jinro in a tournament? Certainly, I myself may get crushed, but I still got to be part of the path that led player X to win the whole thing.
Basically, by separating the pros/popular players from the rest of us, you're benefiting nobody but those players and creating a debilitating divide within the community.
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On February 22 2011 10:33 DyEnasTy wrote:And to people complaining about not being able to get in unless your a well known player This is a quote from Incontrol in an interview on G4 about the qualification process: Can you talk more about the qualification process?
Yeah absolutely. Russ, from GosuCoaching, is the mastermind behind this whole thing and has this whole thing mapped out to a T. There is no teams, but every team is going to be maxed out at five players. There's not going to be like nine Evil Geniuses guys or eight Liquid guys. It will be five of the best from every team at most. Most likely it will be three or four of the players from each team. And then every player is supposed to be backed by a $250 refundable fee. Essentially what it is, is every time they're rude or they're late or any kind of unforeseeable problems occur they'll be penalized $25 or $50 and that comes out of the refundable fee of course. But most people, hopefully all, will be completely and immaculately fine and will get that $250 back. But the idea is to make them accountable.
Each team player will be put in a different division, so no one will hit a member of their team in their division so there will be no HuK vs. Ret in divisional play. And then it will take over the course of nine weeks in their division and the top two advance. And then with that top two there's another qualification process as well. Ten players per division will play, it takes nine weeks to play everyone in their division. There is also a playoff week where we decide the other 5 seats into the finals (10 seeds form divisional play, 5 from playoffs and one from open).
We're also going to have an open tournament so even the people that aren't qualifiers from this they're also going to be able to enter a 1,000 man open tournament and then the number one player from that is in the final sixteen. So it's kind of cool. Definitely team generated in the sense that if you're on a top professional team, if you're one of the top fifty non-Koreans in this tournament, but even if you're not, you can prove your worth through the open. And the second and third and fourth place people will also get rewards from the open. The second one gets flown to the offline final in LA and they're the first replacement. So if someone can't make it for Visa issues, they get sick, or they just don't show, which would be ludicrous, that person is the first one in line. And then third and fourth get auto birthed into season two.
Read more: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/710588/North-American-Star-League-Exclusive-Interview-with-Geoff-iNcontroL-Robinson.html#ixzz1EeBXtggQ
I assure you, a 1000 man tourney for 1 spot.. even MVP would struggle.
also, how does the teams work? does that mean the top 50 that will be chosen.. only 5 from a team will be chosen at max?
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okay after reading that interview on the qualification it does sound like the good players arent just getting in off merit so at least they still have to grind it out. i was afraid for a moment that it was going to be a big elitist circle jerk where we see the same players every season cruise into the tournament off old merits alone.
imagine if we were forced to watch celtics lakers every single season? i think thats the sickest rivalry in sports and would watch it but i also think the excitement is sucked out if theres no storyline, context or journey to the finals. id rather watch sick rivalries happen on their own without any league assistance
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On February 22 2011 10:17 avilo wrote:As a player like everyone else that has been practicing his ass off for ages, I really want to get into this league like the other hardcore people trying to be progamers...and that is one thing that MLG does in fact do very well - equal opportunity for every player to play in it and win cash. Funny fact, I beat EGLZgamer at MLG DC. Now, to people that don't watch much, if you'd be guessing who would win something like that, would you guess me or the person with EG in their name? If I had needed to be voted in to MLG to be able to participate, something like that would never be able to happen, as I'd automatically be written off since I could be a player that is not popular or well known at the time. This does not go for just me obviously, but imagine players even less known than myself...that could be better... To do this NASL, which I want to get into, I suddenly feel like I need to take more time out of practice now to get on twitter, facebook, stream 20x more, and basically everything and anything that can get me more exposure =/! Replay pack in the works now 
Funny fact, my tvt is nothing to brag about beating... shall I list the people who I have beat at MLG's? ...
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On February 22 2011 10:21 Bobster wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:08 KiNGxXx wrote:On February 22 2011 10:01 Xeris wrote:Who said we're picking players entirely from this vote?  And how will you decide if e.g. a famous caster gets 100k votes from his community and ranked at first place? The votes are obviously a way to get the community involved and to make the organisers look at someone to consider an invite. They'll look at his team and professional history. They'll look at his ladder ranking. They'll look at his previous tournament appearances. If all those are sufficient to call him one of the 50 best players who applied, invite him to play. In the case of Destiny (who you are talking about, I suspect) he wouldn't make 2 of the 3. Probably not even the ladder since he's not even Top 100 in his region. With the amount of actual talent this prize pool will attract, he is simply not a valid invite, popularity or not.
Ok, says who?
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Says who? How about Incontrol....
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On February 22 2011 10:43 Lz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:17 avilo wrote:As a player like everyone else that has been practicing his ass off for ages, I really want to get into this league like the other hardcore people trying to be progamers...and that is one thing that MLG does in fact do very well - equal opportunity for every player to play in it and win cash. Funny fact, I beat EGLZgamer at MLG DC. Now, to people that don't watch much, if you'd be guessing who would win something like that, would you guess me or the person with EG in their name? If I had needed to be voted in to MLG to be able to participate, something like that would never be able to happen, as I'd automatically be written off since I could be a player that is not popular or well known at the time. This does not go for just me obviously, but imagine players even less known than myself...that could be better... To do this NASL, which I want to get into, I suddenly feel like I need to take more time out of practice now to get on twitter, facebook, stream 20x more, and basically everything and anything that can get me more exposure =/! Replay pack in the works now Funny fact, my tvt is nothing to brag about beating... shall I list the people who I have beat at MLG's? ...
This alone made my night.
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On February 22 2011 10:33 DyEnasTy wrote:And to people complaining about not being able to get in unless your a well known player This is a quote from Incontrol in an interview on G4 about the qualification process: Can you talk more about the qualification process?
Yeah absolutely. Russ, from GosuCoaching, is the mastermind behind this whole thing and has this whole thing mapped out to a T. There is no teams, but every team is going to be maxed out at five players. There's not going to be like nine Evil Geniuses guys or eight Liquid guys. It will be five of the best from every team at most. Most likely it will be three or four of the players from each team. And then every player is supposed to be backed by a $250 refundable fee. Essentially what it is, is every time they're rude or they're late or any kind of unforeseeable problems occur they'll be penalized $25 or $50 and that comes out of the refundable fee of course. But most people, hopefully all, will be completely and immaculately fine and will get that $250 back. But the idea is to make them accountable.
Each team player will be put in a different division, so no one will hit a member of their team in their division so there will be no HuK vs. Ret in divisional play. And then it will take over the course of nine weeks in their division and the top two advance. And then with that top two there's another qualification process as well. Ten players per division will play, it takes nine weeks to play everyone in their division. There is also a playoff week where we decide the other 5 seats into the finals (10 seeds form divisional play, 5 from playoffs and one from open).
We're also going to have an open tournament so even the people that aren't qualifiers from this they're also going to be able to enter a 1,000 man open tournament and then the number one player from that is in the final sixteen. So it's kind of cool. Definitely team generated in the sense that if you're on a top professional team, if you're one of the top fifty non-Koreans in this tournament, but even if you're not, you can prove your worth through the open. And the second and third and fourth place people will also get rewards from the open. The second one gets flown to the offline final in LA and they're the first replacement. So if someone can't make it for Visa issues, they get sick, or they just don't show, which would be ludicrous, that person is the first one in line. And then third and fourth get auto birthed into season two.
Read more: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/710588/North-American-Star-League-Exclusive-Interview-with-Geoff-iNcontroL-Robinson.html#ixzz1EeBXtggQ
Please don't be so condescending, tons of people in this thread read this interview.
Do you have any idea what 1 spot in a 1000 man tournament means? Put OgsMc, IMMVP, and Nestea in that 1000 man tournament, and I'll still bet good money one of those 3 will not be the winner.
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On February 22 2011 10:39 FrostyTreats wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:33 DyEnasTy wrote:And to people complaining about not being able to get in unless your a well known player This is a quote from Incontrol in an interview on G4 about the qualification process: Can you talk more about the qualification process?
Yeah absolutely. Russ, from GosuCoaching, is the mastermind behind this whole thing and has this whole thing mapped out to a T. There is no teams, but every team is going to be maxed out at five players. There's not going to be like nine Evil Geniuses guys or eight Liquid guys. It will be five of the best from every team at most. Most likely it will be three or four of the players from each team. And then every player is supposed to be backed by a $250 refundable fee. Essentially what it is, is every time they're rude or they're late or any kind of unforeseeable problems occur they'll be penalized $25 or $50 and that comes out of the refundable fee of course. But most people, hopefully all, will be completely and immaculately fine and will get that $250 back. But the idea is to make them accountable.
Each team player will be put in a different division, so no one will hit a member of their team in their division so there will be no HuK vs. Ret in divisional play. And then it will take over the course of nine weeks in their division and the top two advance. And then with that top two there's another qualification process as well. Ten players per division will play, it takes nine weeks to play everyone in their division. There is also a playoff week where we decide the other 5 seats into the finals (10 seeds form divisional play, 5 from playoffs and one from open).
We're also going to have an open tournament so even the people that aren't qualifiers from this they're also going to be able to enter a 1,000 man open tournament and then the number one player from that is in the final sixteen. So it's kind of cool. Definitely team generated in the sense that if you're on a top professional team, if you're one of the top fifty non-Koreans in this tournament, but even if you're not, you can prove your worth through the open. And the second and third and fourth place people will also get rewards from the open. The second one gets flown to the offline final in LA and they're the first replacement. So if someone can't make it for Visa issues, they get sick, or they just don't show, which would be ludicrous, that person is the first one in line. And then third and fourth get auto birthed into season two.
Read more: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/710588/North-American-Star-League-Exclusive-Interview-with-Geoff-iNcontroL-Robinson.html#ixzz1EeBXtggQ I assure you, a 1000 man tourney for 1 spot.. even MVP would struggle. also, how does the teams work? does that mean the top 50 that will be chosen.. only 5 from a team will be chosen at max?
There is so many outlines on how to run a league like this. Whether its from like TSL, point based qualifying tournaments, to GSL with Code A and Code S. Instead there will be 1, one, uno, 1000 man tournament and the WINNER is allowed in. As just an example, I doubt Incontrol could win a 1000 man tournament even 1 out of 20 tries, but because he is known, he gets a spot automatically while other equally skilled players gotta get in through ridiculous conditions.
Avilo, I feel for ya man, when I vote I will give you all I can:D
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On February 22 2011 10:39 FrostyTreats wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:33 DyEnasTy wrote:And to people complaining about not being able to get in unless your a well known player This is a quote from Incontrol in an interview on G4 about the qualification process: Can you talk more about the qualification process?
Yeah absolutely. Russ, from GosuCoaching, is the mastermind behind this whole thing and has this whole thing mapped out to a T. There is no teams, but every team is going to be maxed out at five players. There's not going to be like nine Evil Geniuses guys or eight Liquid guys. It will be five of the best from every team at most. Most likely it will be three or four of the players from each team. And then every player is supposed to be backed by a $250 refundable fee. Essentially what it is, is every time they're rude or they're late or any kind of unforeseeable problems occur they'll be penalized $25 or $50 and that comes out of the refundable fee of course. But most people, hopefully all, will be completely and immaculately fine and will get that $250 back. But the idea is to make them accountable.
Each team player will be put in a different division, so no one will hit a member of their team in their division so there will be no HuK vs. Ret in divisional play. And then it will take over the course of nine weeks in their division and the top two advance. And then with that top two there's another qualification process as well. Ten players per division will play, it takes nine weeks to play everyone in their division. There is also a playoff week where we decide the other 5 seats into the finals (10 seeds form divisional play, 5 from playoffs and one from open).
We're also going to have an open tournament so even the people that aren't qualifiers from this they're also going to be able to enter a 1,000 man open tournament and then the number one player from that is in the final sixteen. So it's kind of cool. Definitely team generated in the sense that if you're on a top professional team, if you're one of the top fifty non-Koreans in this tournament, but even if you're not, you can prove your worth through the open. And the second and third and fourth place people will also get rewards from the open. The second one gets flown to the offline final in LA and they're the first replacement. So if someone can't make it for Visa issues, they get sick, or they just don't show, which would be ludicrous, that person is the first one in line. And then third and fourth get auto birthed into season two.
Read more: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/710588/North-American-Star-League-Exclusive-Interview-with-Geoff-iNcontroL-Robinson.html#ixzz1EeBXtggQ I assure you, a 1000 man tourney for 1 spot.. even MVP would struggle. also, how does the teams work? does that mean the top 50 that will be chosen.. only 5 from a team will be chosen at max?
The TLOpen is 1024 players. Most of the good players will already be in the NASL. MVP would stomp everone.
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On February 22 2011 10:43 Lz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:17 avilo wrote:As a player like everyone else that has been practicing his ass off for ages, I really want to get into this league like the other hardcore people trying to be progamers...and that is one thing that MLG does in fact do very well - equal opportunity for every player to play in it and win cash. Funny fact, I beat EGLZgamer at MLG DC. Now, to people that don't watch much, if you'd be guessing who would win something like that, would you guess me or the person with EG in their name? If I had needed to be voted in to MLG to be able to participate, something like that would never be able to happen, as I'd automatically be written off since I could be a player that is not popular or well known at the time. This does not go for just me obviously, but imagine players even less known than myself...that could be better... To do this NASL, which I want to get into, I suddenly feel like I need to take more time out of practice now to get on twitter, facebook, stream 20x more, and basically everything and anything that can get me more exposure =/! Replay pack in the works now Funny fact, my tvt is nothing to brag about beating... shall I list the people who I have beat at MLG's? ...
Hell ya LZ himself!
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On February 22 2011 10:47 DeltruS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:39 FrostyTreats wrote:On February 22 2011 10:33 DyEnasTy wrote:And to people complaining about not being able to get in unless your a well known player This is a quote from Incontrol in an interview on G4 about the qualification process: Can you talk more about the qualification process?
Yeah absolutely. Russ, from GosuCoaching, is the mastermind behind this whole thing and has this whole thing mapped out to a T. There is no teams, but every team is going to be maxed out at five players. There's not going to be like nine Evil Geniuses guys or eight Liquid guys. It will be five of the best from every team at most. Most likely it will be three or four of the players from each team. And then every player is supposed to be backed by a $250 refundable fee. Essentially what it is, is every time they're rude or they're late or any kind of unforeseeable problems occur they'll be penalized $25 or $50 and that comes out of the refundable fee of course. But most people, hopefully all, will be completely and immaculately fine and will get that $250 back. But the idea is to make them accountable.
Each team player will be put in a different division, so no one will hit a member of their team in their division so there will be no HuK vs. Ret in divisional play. And then it will take over the course of nine weeks in their division and the top two advance. And then with that top two there's another qualification process as well. Ten players per division will play, it takes nine weeks to play everyone in their division. There is also a playoff week where we decide the other 5 seats into the finals (10 seeds form divisional play, 5 from playoffs and one from open).
We're also going to have an open tournament so even the people that aren't qualifiers from this they're also going to be able to enter a 1,000 man open tournament and then the number one player from that is in the final sixteen. So it's kind of cool. Definitely team generated in the sense that if you're on a top professional team, if you're one of the top fifty non-Koreans in this tournament, but even if you're not, you can prove your worth through the open. And the second and third and fourth place people will also get rewards from the open. The second one gets flown to the offline final in LA and they're the first replacement. So if someone can't make it for Visa issues, they get sick, or they just don't show, which would be ludicrous, that person is the first one in line. And then third and fourth get auto birthed into season two.
Read more: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/710588/North-American-Star-League-Exclusive-Interview-with-Geoff-iNcontroL-Robinson.html#ixzz1EeBXtggQ I assure you, a 1000 man tourney for 1 spot.. even MVP would struggle. also, how does the teams work? does that mean the top 50 that will be chosen.. only 5 from a team will be chosen at max? The TLOpen is 1024 players. Most of the good players will already be in the NASL. MVP would stomp everone.
i guarantee you mvps chances of winning a 1000 man tourney the likes of this would probably be around 20%... maybe less.. maybe a little more. Being better isn't enough
Bomber didn't even qualify for the GSL and that is arguably much easier to qualify for... how many spots are given to code A from qualies? 8? more?
and the TLOPEN is an amazing system... many many tourneys and a pointbase for those who dont make first place.
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On February 22 2011 10:47 DeltruS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:39 FrostyTreats wrote:On February 22 2011 10:33 DyEnasTy wrote:And to people complaining about not being able to get in unless your a well known player This is a quote from Incontrol in an interview on G4 about the qualification process: Can you talk more about the qualification process?
Yeah absolutely. Russ, from GosuCoaching, is the mastermind behind this whole thing and has this whole thing mapped out to a T. There is no teams, but every team is going to be maxed out at five players. There's not going to be like nine Evil Geniuses guys or eight Liquid guys. It will be five of the best from every team at most. Most likely it will be three or four of the players from each team. And then every player is supposed to be backed by a $250 refundable fee. Essentially what it is, is every time they're rude or they're late or any kind of unforeseeable problems occur they'll be penalized $25 or $50 and that comes out of the refundable fee of course. But most people, hopefully all, will be completely and immaculately fine and will get that $250 back. But the idea is to make them accountable.
Each team player will be put in a different division, so no one will hit a member of their team in their division so there will be no HuK vs. Ret in divisional play. And then it will take over the course of nine weeks in their division and the top two advance. And then with that top two there's another qualification process as well. Ten players per division will play, it takes nine weeks to play everyone in their division. There is also a playoff week where we decide the other 5 seats into the finals (10 seeds form divisional play, 5 from playoffs and one from open).
We're also going to have an open tournament so even the people that aren't qualifiers from this they're also going to be able to enter a 1,000 man open tournament and then the number one player from that is in the final sixteen. So it's kind of cool. Definitely team generated in the sense that if you're on a top professional team, if you're one of the top fifty non-Koreans in this tournament, but even if you're not, you can prove your worth through the open. And the second and third and fourth place people will also get rewards from the open. The second one gets flown to the offline final in LA and they're the first replacement. So if someone can't make it for Visa issues, they get sick, or they just don't show, which would be ludicrous, that person is the first one in line. And then third and fourth get auto birthed into season two.
Read more: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/710588/North-American-Star-League-Exclusive-Interview-with-Geoff-iNcontroL-Robinson.html#ixzz1EeBXtggQ I assure you, a 1000 man tourney for 1 spot.. even MVP would struggle. also, how does the teams work? does that mean the top 50 that will be chosen.. only 5 from a team will be chosen at max? The TLOpen is 1024 players. Most of the good players will already be in the NASL. MVP would stomp everone.
You don't realize that in a 1024 tournament, there will be like 8 players in the top 16 that are insanely good. The chance for one of them to win is very low cause everyone is so good. If someone is insanely good like MVP, they will be voted/allowed in anyways. You just gotta realize, not every sponsored player is better than every nonsponsored players. Just because you're sponsored/popular doesn't mean you should be allowed in.
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God. So many fucking useless trolling. If all of you that are so upset about this or that can't take it--then go make your own gd league and find the sponsors to shell out 400k. Constructive criticism is great--things advance from that--but bickering for the sake of bickering is dumb. If you're going to criticize add a comma and make a suggestion. >:-S
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On February 22 2011 10:51 DueSs wrote:
God. So many fucking useless trolling. If all of you that are so upset about this or that can't take it--then go make your own gd league and find the sponsors to shell out 400k. Constructive criticism is great--things advance from that--but bickering for the sake of bickering is dumb. If you're going to criticize add a comma and make a suggestion. >:-S
you call other people trolls and come out with the worst logic in the thread, good job.
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On February 22 2011 10:47 GhostFall wrote:
Please don't be so condescending, tons of people in this thread read this interview.
Do you have any idea what 1 spot in a 1000 man tournament means? Put OgsMc, IMMVP, and Nestea in that 1000 man tournament, and I'll still bet good money one of those 3 will not be the winner.
Well then, "good news, everyone!" People like Mc and MVP have already put in the work to be considered for an invite. They're just trying to make sure that (out of all the players who would be interested in competing) they get the cream of the crop.
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On February 22 2011 10:43 Lz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:17 avilo wrote:As a player like everyone else that has been practicing his ass off for ages, I really want to get into this league like the other hardcore people trying to be progamers...and that is one thing that MLG does in fact do very well - equal opportunity for every player to play in it and win cash. Funny fact, I beat EGLZgamer at MLG DC. Now, to people that don't watch much, if you'd be guessing who would win something like that, would you guess me or the person with EG in their name? If I had needed to be voted in to MLG to be able to participate, something like that would never be able to happen, as I'd automatically be written off since I could be a player that is not popular or well known at the time. This does not go for just me obviously, but imagine players even less known than myself...that could be better... To do this NASL, which I want to get into, I suddenly feel like I need to take more time out of practice now to get on twitter, facebook, stream 20x more, and basically everything and anything that can get me more exposure =/! Replay pack in the works now Funny fact, my tvt is nothing to brag about beating... shall I list the people who I have beat at MLG's? ...
No need to stroke your own. You get a whole 10 week tournament with a $400k prizepool to rub all you want while the masses claw over 1 measly spot.
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