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On February 22 2011 11:02 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:43 Lz wrote:On February 22 2011 10:17 avilo wrote:As a player like everyone else that has been practicing his ass off for ages, I really want to get into this league like the other hardcore people trying to be progamers...and that is one thing that MLG does in fact do very well - equal opportunity for every player to play in it and win cash. Funny fact, I beat EGLZgamer at MLG DC. Now, to people that don't watch much, if you'd be guessing who would win something like that, would you guess me or the person with EG in their name? If I had needed to be voted in to MLG to be able to participate, something like that would never be able to happen, as I'd automatically be written off since I could be a player that is not popular or well known at the time. This does not go for just me obviously, but imagine players even less known than myself...that could be better... To do this NASL, which I want to get into, I suddenly feel like I need to take more time out of practice now to get on twitter, facebook, stream 20x more, and basically everything and anything that can get me more exposure =/! Replay pack in the works now  Funny fact, my tvt is nothing to brag about beating... shall I list the people who I have beat at MLG's? ... I was just using an example of an "underdog" situation man...<3. There's tons more situations like that where people are like "EL O EL THAT GUY IS DEFINITELY GONNA GET CRUSHED!" and the person watching hasn't even seen either of the players playing to base anything off of, they just see the names and think, "oh, that's megaBossman, he will win cause he's in so and so team, with so and so etc." Even GSL's system has it where players WORK their way up into the leagues, they aren't voted in.
Ok by your logic: you beating LZ in a TvT once qualifies you for $100,000? I think your resume should be a bit bigger than that.
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On February 22 2011 10:53 aksfjh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:43 Lz wrote:On February 22 2011 10:17 avilo wrote:As a player like everyone else that has been practicing his ass off for ages, I really want to get into this league like the other hardcore people trying to be progamers...and that is one thing that MLG does in fact do very well - equal opportunity for every player to play in it and win cash. Funny fact, I beat EGLZgamer at MLG DC. Now, to people that don't watch much, if you'd be guessing who would win something like that, would you guess me or the person with EG in their name? If I had needed to be voted in to MLG to be able to participate, something like that would never be able to happen, as I'd automatically be written off since I could be a player that is not popular or well known at the time. This does not go for just me obviously, but imagine players even less known than myself...that could be better... To do this NASL, which I want to get into, I suddenly feel like I need to take more time out of practice now to get on twitter, facebook, stream 20x more, and basically everything and anything that can get me more exposure =/! Replay pack in the works now Funny fact, my tvt is nothing to brag about beating... shall I list the people who I have beat at MLG's? ... No need to stroke your own. You get a whole 10 week tournament with a $400k prizepool to rub all you want while the masses claw over 1 measly spot.
He's not stroking his own... he's calling out someone who said, "I beat LZ!!! Look at me!!!"
I like that LZ actually gets on these threads and calls out the talkers.
I think he will be the first terran player I've ever rooted for haha
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On February 22 2011 11:08 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:53 chaokel wrote: where are all the day[9] votes, come on people. They'll come when Day9 mentions it in a daily.
oh how i hope so, i'd love to actually see day[9] play some high level games.
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On February 22 2011 11:11 DyEnasTy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 11:02 avilo wrote:On February 22 2011 10:43 Lz wrote:On February 22 2011 10:17 avilo wrote:As a player like everyone else that has been practicing his ass off for ages, I really want to get into this league like the other hardcore people trying to be progamers...and that is one thing that MLG does in fact do very well - equal opportunity for every player to play in it and win cash. Funny fact, I beat EGLZgamer at MLG DC. Now, to people that don't watch much, if you'd be guessing who would win something like that, would you guess me or the person with EG in their name? If I had needed to be voted in to MLG to be able to participate, something like that would never be able to happen, as I'd automatically be written off since I could be a player that is not popular or well known at the time. This does not go for just me obviously, but imagine players even less known than myself...that could be better... To do this NASL, which I want to get into, I suddenly feel like I need to take more time out of practice now to get on twitter, facebook, stream 20x more, and basically everything and anything that can get me more exposure =/! Replay pack in the works now Funny fact, my tvt is nothing to brag about beating... shall I list the people who I have beat at MLG's? ... I was just using an example of an "underdog" situation man...<3. There's tons more situations like that where people are like "EL O EL THAT GUY IS DEFINITELY GONNA GET CRUSHED!" and the person watching hasn't even seen either of the players playing to base anything off of, they just see the names and think, "oh, that's megaBossman, he will win cause he's in so and so team, with so and so etc." Even GSL's system has it where players WORK their way up into the leagues, they aren't voted in. Ok by your logic: you beating LZ in a TvT once qualifies you for $100,000? I think your resume should be a bit bigger than that.
your missing his point, he's simply saying underdog players aren't always going to get crushed by sponsored well known players.
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On February 22 2011 11:07 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 11:03 DueSs wrote:On February 22 2011 11:01 Holcan wrote:On February 22 2011 10:57 DueSs wrote:On February 22 2011 10:52 Holcan wrote:On February 22 2011 10:51 DueSs wrote:
God. So many fucking useless trolling. If all of you that are so upset about this or that can't take it--then go make your own gd league and find the sponsors to shell out 400k. Constructive criticism is great--things advance from that--but bickering for the sake of bickering is dumb. If you're going to criticize add a comma and make a suggestion. >:-S you call other people trolls and come out with the worst logic in the thread, good job. And obviously you don't get the logic. You criticized me without adding a comma and adding a suggestion. Sigh. i refused to read the rest of your post after your first half was so blatantly ignorant. Typical. Keep trollin', eh. =/ almost 10x your posts without a warning, and im the troll, thats rich.
You could have 100x my posts and still be a troll. Don't understand why you took such offense to my post anyway. TL reader/non-poster since 2004 (my sophomore year in college)--I know how things go here.
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Who are all these "ONE" guys? And who is Destiny?
Sorry if im uninformed.
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On February 22 2011 11:11 ZlaSHeR wrote:
So who's fucking with the votes? Destiny gained just insta gained 2000 votes, and all the ONE clan guys shot up from nowhere, and they are by no means the popular players.
Well seeing how you can just keep voting with different emails...
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On February 22 2011 11:11 ZlaSHeR wrote:
So who's fucking with the votes? Destiny gained just insta gained 2000 votes, and all the ONE clan guys shot up from nowhere, and they are by no means the popular players.
Yea, Destiny was 300 votes behind HuK for a hour or so now, and suddenly BAM! 2000 votes.
I know iNcontrol said the pool dosent matter, and i believe him, but i do hope it irons out some more, so i dont wake up tomorrow to 2 million votes for Destiny
I am sure he is a great guy, but this is outright silly
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On February 22 2011 11:13 DueSs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 11:07 Holcan wrote:On February 22 2011 11:03 DueSs wrote:On February 22 2011 11:01 Holcan wrote:On February 22 2011 10:57 DueSs wrote:On February 22 2011 10:52 Holcan wrote:On February 22 2011 10:51 DueSs wrote:
God. So many fucking useless trolling. If all of you that are so upset about this or that can't take it--then go make your own gd league and find the sponsors to shell out 400k. Constructive criticism is great--things advance from that--but bickering for the sake of bickering is dumb. If you're going to criticize add a comma and make a suggestion. >:-S you call other people trolls and come out with the worst logic in the thread, good job. And obviously you don't get the logic. You criticized me without adding a comma and adding a suggestion. Sigh. i refused to read the rest of your post after your first half was so blatantly ignorant. Typical. Keep trollin', eh. =/ almost 10x your posts without a warning, and im the troll, thats rich. You could have 100x my posts and still be a troll. Don't understand why you took such offense to my post anyway. TL reader/non-poster since 2004 (my sophomore year in college)--I know how things go here.
because you're an obvious troll hiding behind logical fallacies, defending yourself by calling other people trolls?
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In a perfect world, your skill would be a measure of how popular you are. Unfortunately, how you market yourself is just as important, if not more important than your skill. It makes sense that people who want to grow a sport would want to have players who have dedicated themselves to making a name for themselves. After all, the more popular the players, the more viewers and the more exposure it'll get.
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They haven't stated how much influence the voting has on the roster, but I'll have to wait and see more details before I agree or disagree with their approach for selection.
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god people are so dumb.
The best players will be picked to participate. Idiots think that the people putting shit ton of money into this will let the league crumble by allowing poor players to play. It will be as objective as possible (for picking 50 players, you have to be subjective at some point). 50 players are invited. I can't even name 30 household names from North America. Having said that, your favorite players WILL be picked, don't worry. As far as the non-household names, who better to pick them than people who actually play against them and people at the top of the competitive pool?
I mean come the fuck on, where is the logic.
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WhO is Destiny? The person in First? No LP entry...
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On February 22 2011 11:14 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 11:13 DueSs wrote:On February 22 2011 11:07 Holcan wrote:On February 22 2011 11:03 DueSs wrote:On February 22 2011 11:01 Holcan wrote:On February 22 2011 10:57 DueSs wrote:On February 22 2011 10:52 Holcan wrote:On February 22 2011 10:51 DueSs wrote:
God. So many fucking useless trolling. If all of you that are so upset about this or that can't take it--then go make your own gd league and find the sponsors to shell out 400k. Constructive criticism is great--things advance from that--but bickering for the sake of bickering is dumb. If you're going to criticize add a comma and make a suggestion. >:-S you call other people trolls and come out with the worst logic in the thread, good job. And obviously you don't get the logic. You criticized me without adding a comma and adding a suggestion. Sigh. i refused to read the rest of your post after your first half was so blatantly ignorant. Typical. Keep trollin', eh. =/ almost 10x your posts without a warning, and im the troll, thats rich. You could have 100x my posts and still be a troll. Don't understand why you took such offense to my post anyway. TL reader/non-poster since 2004 (my sophomore year in college)--I know how things go here. because you're an obvious troll hiding behind logical fallacies, defending yourself by calling other people trolls?
lol, im done with you. you've DEFINED classic trollin' in our exchange alone.
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Destiny's at number one, good thing that they aren't using the votes to determine the players
Although it would be hilarious to see how quickly he would lose the $250
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On February 22 2011 11:12 LuckyFool wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 11:11 DyEnasTy wrote:On February 22 2011 11:02 avilo wrote:On February 22 2011 10:43 Lz wrote:On February 22 2011 10:17 avilo wrote:As a player like everyone else that has been practicing his ass off for ages, I really want to get into this league like the other hardcore people trying to be progamers...and that is one thing that MLG does in fact do very well - equal opportunity for every player to play in it and win cash. Funny fact, I beat EGLZgamer at MLG DC. Now, to people that don't watch much, if you'd be guessing who would win something like that, would you guess me or the person with EG in their name? If I had needed to be voted in to MLG to be able to participate, something like that would never be able to happen, as I'd automatically be written off since I could be a player that is not popular or well known at the time. This does not go for just me obviously, but imagine players even less known than myself...that could be better... To do this NASL, which I want to get into, I suddenly feel like I need to take more time out of practice now to get on twitter, facebook, stream 20x more, and basically everything and anything that can get me more exposure =/! Replay pack in the works now Funny fact, my tvt is nothing to brag about beating... shall I list the people who I have beat at MLG's? ... I was just using an example of an "underdog" situation man...<3. There's tons more situations like that where people are like "EL O EL THAT GUY IS DEFINITELY GONNA GET CRUSHED!" and the person watching hasn't even seen either of the players playing to base anything off of, they just see the names and think, "oh, that's megaBossman, he will win cause he's in so and so team, with so and so etc." Even GSL's system has it where players WORK their way up into the leagues, they aren't voted in. Ok by your logic: you beating LZ in a TvT once qualifies you for $100,000? I think your resume should be a bit bigger than that. your missing his point, he's simply saying underdog players aren't always going to get crushed by sponsored well known players.
I went back and re read with what you said in mind, and ya hes right in that respect. But there is an open (although very hard) qualifier to get into the tourny with. Wether that format is fair or unfair will be revealed as time goes on.
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I can't believe Destiny is number one... it is a popularity contest and you have people from his stream probably making multiple accounts to vote 3 times
Although we'll be able to see him get stomped... he's taking the spot from a good player
also there's a lot of Korean people on there, specifically MC MVP and NesTea... I didn't know if they were going in, especially since they probably won't give up GSL
I don't like the system because as Avilo said that it is rewarding the well-known successful players, but like MLG has a championship bracket to make it easier for them, NASL is just going to carry them into the tournament, and allow 1 out of 16 for an unknown player, or a known player that didn't get enough votes
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On February 22 2011 11:14 goldrush wrote:
In a perfect world, your skill would be a measure of how popular you are. Unfortunately, how you market yourself is just as important, if not more important than your skill. It makes sense that people who want to grow a sport would want to have players who have dedicated themselves to making a name for themselves. After all, the more popular the players, the more viewers and the more exposure it'll get.
Then say it like that. I don't want to read About NASL and have it say "We need the best players" then have a button on the bottom saying, Vote for your favorite players!
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People are just abusing the voting system. Give it a few days and Justin Bieber will be #1.
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