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On February 22 2011 11:56 Catch]22 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 09:37 Marou wrote:On February 22 2011 09:35 Brad wrote:On February 22 2011 09:34 MuteZephyr wrote:
That's the only way it should be. The good players who have won lots of tournaments are the popular ones and the ones people want to watch the most. I don't want to watch a bunch of people who just managed to cheese their way into a spot.
You gotta work hard for this tournament, the way it should be. Uhm, no? Popularity has nothing to do with success. Well lucky us in StarCraft it does. Look at that poll to your right, Boxer is the most popular, but you could hardly say that he's better than ANYONE on that list right now. Edit: Crap, I wasted my 1500 post on this! But I think i made a good point.
Honestly? You think that's a good comparison? Fucking BoxeR?
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omg piqliq has over 9000 votes.
i rly hope he gets chosen though, imagine the fun of watching a live piqliq cheese and him eventually winning with 20 proxy void rays, priceless...
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On February 22 2011 12:02 Fa1nT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 12:01 squintz wrote:On February 22 2011 11:58 TheRPGAddict wrote:On February 22 2011 11:55 DyEnasTy wrote:On February 22 2011 11:53 TheRPGAddict wrote:On February 22 2011 11:47 itungle wrote:
i srsly cant stand how people starting to troll this voting system... LIKE COME ON PEOPLE this FKING* tournament is 400k+ and u guys starting to TROLL this voting system....
NASL are generously enough to LET the community speak and I dont think the community is doing what NASL wants. PIQLIQ(cheeser in the community?) and Destiny(streamer) for example I guess have a lot of fame but the thing is they did not accomplish other and did not show enough high level. I felt like NASL should just pick half the people they want in the tournament and half for qualifier like TSL Well, Destiny's votes were gained from legitimate votes, not a bot/hack like PiqLiq's so I would not categorize that as trolling. Actually your wrong. Destiny's votes have dropped alot. I know that, but the votes that have been earned were not from automated bots or a hack like the majority of PiqLiq's. His loss votes were the product of someone's trolling as no one else lost that many votes let alone that fast. Could be that the Destiny bot used a static IP with some sort of cookie deletion where as the PiQLiQ bot is using proxies or dynamic IPs. Far more likely that Destiny is just more popular than most progamers, regardless of how much you like/dislike him.
His loss votes were the product of someone's trolling as no one else lost that many votes let alone that fast.
The subject is vote loss not vote gain. Read before replying. We're talking about why he lost so many votes so suddenly.
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At least with the popularity contest, terran aren't OP, not at all :D
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I dont wanna make assumptions though so I dont wanna say with certainty that that is the reason, it just seems probable. Could very well be wrong though.
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My god. This thread continued for 11 pages (so far) mainly about voting qq's after iNcontroL stated the voting means nothing. Amazing...
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On February 22 2011 12:18 Maynarde wrote:
My god. This thread continued for 11 pages (so far) mainly about voting qq's after iNcontroL stated the voting means nothing. Amazing...
Actually he only raised more questions.
If voting isn't the "sole factor", then what are the factors? Many different answers will lead to the same result: a very closed tournament, where only already known players have a chance.
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Just vote for who you'd like to see play, and let iNcontroL and crew figure out what to do with it. Its not like they're only gonna invite random scrubs to play, nor are they gonna throw our votes out the window. Just let nature take its course, geez.
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On February 22 2011 12:18 Maynarde wrote:
My god. This thread continued for 11 pages (so far) mainly about voting qq's after iNcontroL stated the voting means nothing. Amazing...
As I recall, iNcontrol said that the voting would not "decide" who would get it. He said it helped. If the voting truly meant nothing, that's a pretty sketchy, dodgy way to "answer" the question of whether voting would have an effect.
People who still believe voting should have no effect whatsoever are still entitled to rant. I, for one, don't really like the fact that polls end up being popularity contests regardless of good intent; however, I acknowledge that it is a nice way to involve the community (and that there probably isn't a better way of doing it).
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I find it somewhat predictable but still hilarious that the poll got abused in a manner. Still, just one qualifier spot makes me feel a bit disappointed. Really would've liked to seen some more opportunities for dark horses to come forth.
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On February 22 2011 12:21 Buddhist wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 12:18 Maynarde wrote:
My god. This thread continued for 11 pages (so far) mainly about voting qq's after iNcontroL stated the voting means nothing. Amazing... Actually he only raised more questions. If voting isn't the "sole factor", then what are the factors? Many different answers will lead to the same result: a very closed tournament, where only already known players have a chance. Sounds good to me for a tournament where the Top 50 are supposed to compete.
Unknown players can make a name for themselves in any of the countless Open tournaments that are held every week, I don't think it's a problem if promoting unknown players is not a priority for the NASL.
There's definitely some merit to be found in a tournament that is held to show off matches between elite players.
Even with that said, there's a finals spot reserved for the winner of an open tournament. With that kind of prize pool, that's very generous as is. There would be no problem to sell this as an Invitational tournament only.
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On February 22 2011 12:18 Maynarde wrote:
My god. This thread continued for 11 pages (so far) mainly about voting qq's after iNcontroL stated the voting means nothing. Amazing... You have to see it this way - that's 5 and a half pages full of people arguing for the way NASL does things. :D
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On February 22 2011 10:06 iNcontroL wrote:
The voting is a fun way to get involved and support your favorite players. It helps but by no means WHAT SO EVER decides who gets selected.
Please stop looking for ways to make this a bad thing.
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