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On February 22 2011 11:19 jalstar wrote:
Destiny says he won't play due to not being in a team, so I doubt he encouraged viewers to spam votes.
His votes don't matter, he's not gonna participate, discuss the players who will actually play.
To be fair to Destiny (and I often find him hugely annoying, so this is hard for me) he's on his stream right now saying "I don't know who is linking and telling people to vote for me, but stop it. Vote for me if you want, but don't spam links, cut it out".
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On February 22 2011 11:29 bLuR wrote:
Destiny is clearly the most popular Starcraft 2 player in NA
If destiny has the most votes than this is obviously a horrible way to determine who should get to participate in the NASL.
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On February 22 2011 11:28 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Mod should put Incontrol's quote at the top of the thread to clear up the level of misconception in here.
And idiocy, after looking after some other comments.
Did it myself.
I by no means am trying to make NASL look bad, but my honest (and I think fairly logical) interpretation of how players get into NASL was that it's a popularity contest. I mean, the quotes from NASL.tv say it almost verbatim.
Now I'm just confused.
Is it basically invite-only with popularity playing a role in the invites? If so, how else are invites determined? How can this avoid becoming purely subjective?
If 16 spots came from a big open tourney, and 32 came from invites, I don't think anyone would be... nervous, shall I say.
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Imo the league needs many more open spots. If not, the system just becomes too exclusive and repetitive, with little chance of dark horses overcoming.
Edit: More concerned with this for the future seasons, not necessarily the inaugural season.
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the number one priority of this new league is to succeed.. it makes sense to get the most popular players in it. that said, some sort of mix or qualifiers is good too. who knows what they will do after the few seasons when this league is a major success. its not something to worry about people.
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A huge league ran by pro gamers just won't turn out as good as a MLG/GSL/SC:BW without a outside person running it. This is like the same as EG Masters Cup, of course EG is going to be in it.
Having a tournament ran by pro gamers, will always result in a popularity contest. Do you really think Incontrol is going to go up to LzGamer and be like, "Sorry man, Avilo took your spot". It just won't happen.
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On February 22 2011 11:33 Crushgroove wrote:
No. Just... No. NO ONE EVER SAID THEY WOULD ONLY PICK THE PEOPLE WITH THE MOST VOTES.
Just says it increases their chances... which is smart. This is a business venture... and in order to even HOPE to turn a profit, they must get viewers. More popular players == more viewers. I don't think this thread is merited at all.
I agree, It's good business. The problem is today's society of getting Lady Gaga's video to 100m views before Britney does. I wouldn't be surprised if i woke up to see a player with 50,000 votes tomorrow.
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On February 22 2011 10:53 SlapMySalami wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:43 Lz wrote:On February 22 2011 10:17 avilo wrote:As a player like everyone else that has been practicing his ass off for ages, I really want to get into this league like the other hardcore people trying to be progamers...and that is one thing that MLG does in fact do very well - equal opportunity for every player to play in it and win cash. Funny fact, I beat EGLZgamer at MLG DC. Now, to people that don't watch much, if you'd be guessing who would win something like that, would you guess me or the person with EG in their name? If I had needed to be voted in to MLG to be able to participate, something like that would never be able to happen, as I'd automatically be written off since I could be a player that is not popular or well known at the time. This does not go for just me obviously, but imagine players even less known than myself...that could be better... To do this NASL, which I want to get into, I suddenly feel like I need to take more time out of practice now to get on twitter, facebook, stream 20x more, and basically everything and anything that can get me more exposure =/! Replay pack in the works now  Funny fact, my tvt is nothing to brag about beating... shall I list the people who I have beat at MLG's? ... Avilo what have you actually won z33k.com's master tournament or something?
What has Destiny won? Shit, mondragon got posted there by nasl.tv, and I doubt hes even played starcraft 2 since beta. I would wager $100 that I could beat him....
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On February 22 2011 11:40 Newguy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:53 SlapMySalami wrote:On February 22 2011 10:43 Lz wrote:On February 22 2011 10:17 avilo wrote:As a player like everyone else that has been practicing his ass off for ages, I really want to get into this league like the other hardcore people trying to be progamers...and that is one thing that MLG does in fact do very well - equal opportunity for every player to play in it and win cash. Funny fact, I beat EGLZgamer at MLG DC. Now, to people that don't watch much, if you'd be guessing who would win something like that, would you guess me or the person with EG in their name? If I had needed to be voted in to MLG to be able to participate, something like that would never be able to happen, as I'd automatically be written off since I could be a player that is not popular or well known at the time. This does not go for just me obviously, but imagine players even less known than myself...that could be better... To do this NASL, which I want to get into, I suddenly feel like I need to take more time out of practice now to get on twitter, facebook, stream 20x more, and basically everything and anything that can get me more exposure =/! Replay pack in the works now Funny fact, my tvt is nothing to brag about beating... shall I list the people who I have beat at MLG's? ... Avilo what have you actually won z33k.com's master tournament or something? What has Destiny won? Shit, mondragon got posted there by nasl.tv, and I doubt hes even played starcraft 2 since beta. I would wager $100 that I could beat him....
Hasn't Mondragon been playing on ladder somewhat? I think you're exaggerating a bit too much
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Piqliq and Destiny? I'm so confused lol.
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Vote - Clear cookies, Refresh, Vote again:D
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Destiny has a lot of fans, which makes sense
Piqliq? Cheating the votes somehow.
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Lol looks like the voting system is being botted.@PiQLiQ
I hope they're ready to combat all the botting thats bound to happen.
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System for voting is obviously messed up.  Shame. Hope some of the 50 spots go to qualifiers. Would be nice to see like 5 of them be given to people who qualify.
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The voting is going so pringles.
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On February 22 2011 11:43 Fa1nT wrote:
Destiny has a lot of fans, which makes sense
Piqliq? Cheating the votes somehow.
who doesn't like piqliq? he is the cheesiest mother fucker and he is good at it
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There is obvious cheating on this system. Piqliq is getting around 100 votes a second. I don't understand how they didn't forsee blatant cheating with this system.
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EPT
