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 where are all the day[9] votes, come on people.
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On February 22 2011 10:43 Lz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:17 avilo wrote:As a player like everyone else that has been practicing his ass off for ages, I really want to get into this league like the other hardcore people trying to be progamers...and that is one thing that MLG does in fact do very well - equal opportunity for every player to play in it and win cash. Funny fact, I beat EGLZgamer at MLG DC. Now, to people that don't watch much, if you'd be guessing who would win something like that, would you guess me or the person with EG in their name? If I had needed to be voted in to MLG to be able to participate, something like that would never be able to happen, as I'd automatically be written off since I could be a player that is not popular or well known at the time. This does not go for just me obviously, but imagine players even less known than myself...that could be better... To do this NASL, which I want to get into, I suddenly feel like I need to take more time out of practice now to get on twitter, facebook, stream 20x more, and basically everything and anything that can get me more exposure =/! Replay pack in the works now  Funny fact, my tvt is nothing to brag about beating... shall I list the people who I have beat at MLG's? ...
Avilo what have you actually won
z33k.com's master tournament or something?
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On February 22 2011 10:52 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:51 DueSs wrote:
God. So many fucking useless trolling. If all of you that are so upset about this or that can't take it--then go make your own gd league and find the sponsors to shell out 400k. Constructive criticism is great--things advance from that--but bickering for the sake of bickering is dumb. If you're going to criticize add a comma and make a suggestion. >:-S you call other people trolls and come out with the worst logic in the thread, good job.
And obviously you don't get the logic. You criticized me without adding a comma and adding a suggestion. Sigh.
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On February 22 2011 10:53 SlapMySalami wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:43 Lz wrote:On February 22 2011 10:17 avilo wrote:As a player like everyone else that has been practicing his ass off for ages, I really want to get into this league like the other hardcore people trying to be progamers...and that is one thing that MLG does in fact do very well - equal opportunity for every player to play in it and win cash. Funny fact, I beat EGLZgamer at MLG DC. Now, to people that don't watch much, if you'd be guessing who would win something like that, would you guess me or the person with EG in their name? If I had needed to be voted in to MLG to be able to participate, something like that would never be able to happen, as I'd automatically be written off since I could be a player that is not popular or well known at the time. This does not go for just me obviously, but imagine players even less known than myself...that could be better... To do this NASL, which I want to get into, I suddenly feel like I need to take more time out of practice now to get on twitter, facebook, stream 20x more, and basically everything and anything that can get me more exposure =/! Replay pack in the works now Funny fact, my tvt is nothing to brag about beating... shall I list the people who I have beat at MLG's? ... Avilo what have you actually won z33k.com's master tournament or something?
Well it's not like Lz won anything. Some well known players haven't won anything at all.
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Destiny(steven bonnell) is in the top 10 of the voting currently.... and I only watch 3 games of him vs EGiNcontrol and i felt like he is not on the level of playing against these caliber of players... there are WAYYYY more players that better or at least be able to compete against high caliber players without getting stomped and that is not Destiny(steven bonnell).
I think whoever voted for him is just not thinking in term of how high level these players can be..
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On February 22 2011 10:50 FrostyTreats wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:47 DeltruS wrote:On February 22 2011 10:39 FrostyTreats wrote:On February 22 2011 10:33 DyEnasTy wrote:And to people complaining about not being able to get in unless your a well known player This is a quote from Incontrol in an interview on G4 about the qualification process: Can you talk more about the qualification process?
Yeah absolutely. Russ, from GosuCoaching, is the mastermind behind this whole thing and has this whole thing mapped out to a T. There is no teams, but every team is going to be maxed out at five players. There's not going to be like nine Evil Geniuses guys or eight Liquid guys. It will be five of the best from every team at most. Most likely it will be three or four of the players from each team. And then every player is supposed to be backed by a $250 refundable fee. Essentially what it is, is every time they're rude or they're late or any kind of unforeseeable problems occur they'll be penalized $25 or $50 and that comes out of the refundable fee of course. But most people, hopefully all, will be completely and immaculately fine and will get that $250 back. But the idea is to make them accountable.
Each team player will be put in a different division, so no one will hit a member of their team in their division so there will be no HuK vs. Ret in divisional play. And then it will take over the course of nine weeks in their division and the top two advance. And then with that top two there's another qualification process as well. Ten players per division will play, it takes nine weeks to play everyone in their division. There is also a playoff week where we decide the other 5 seats into the finals (10 seeds form divisional play, 5 from playoffs and one from open).
We're also going to have an open tournament so even the people that aren't qualifiers from this they're also going to be able to enter a 1,000 man open tournament and then the number one player from that is in the final sixteen. So it's kind of cool. Definitely team generated in the sense that if you're on a top professional team, if you're one of the top fifty non-Koreans in this tournament, but even if you're not, you can prove your worth through the open. And the second and third and fourth place people will also get rewards from the open. The second one gets flown to the offline final in LA and they're the first replacement. So if someone can't make it for Visa issues, they get sick, or they just don't show, which would be ludicrous, that person is the first one in line. And then third and fourth get auto birthed into season two.
Read more: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/710588/North-American-Star-League-Exclusive-Interview-with-Geoff-iNcontroL-Robinson.html#ixzz1EeBXtggQ I assure you, a 1000 man tourney for 1 spot.. even MVP would struggle. also, how does the teams work? does that mean the top 50 that will be chosen.. only 5 from a team will be chosen at max? The TLOpen is 1024 players. Most of the good players will already be in the NASL. MVP would stomp everone. i guarantee you mvps chances of winning a 1000 man tourney the likes of this would probably be around 20%... maybe less.. maybe a little more. Being better isn't enough Bomber didn't even qualify for the GSL and that is arguably much easier to qualify for... how many spots are given to code A from qualies? 8? more? and the TLOPEN is an amazing system... many many tourneys and a pointbase for those who dont make first place.
MVP won Gainward, which had 700+ players, while losing only one game the whole tournament
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Lol @ all the ONE guys surging into the top 20. :/
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On February 22 2011 10:57 DueSs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:52 Holcan wrote:On February 22 2011 10:51 DueSs wrote:
God. So many fucking useless trolling. If all of you that are so upset about this or that can't take it--then go make your own gd league and find the sponsors to shell out 400k. Constructive criticism is great--things advance from that--but bickering for the sake of bickering is dumb. If you're going to criticize add a comma and make a suggestion. >:-S you call other people trolls and come out with the worst logic in the thread, good job. And obviously you don't get the logic. You criticized me without adding a comma and adding a suggestion. Sigh.
i refused to read the rest of your post after your first half was so blatantly ignorant.
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On February 22 2011 10:43 Lz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:17 avilo wrote:As a player like everyone else that has been practicing his ass off for ages, I really want to get into this league like the other hardcore people trying to be progamers...and that is one thing that MLG does in fact do very well - equal opportunity for every player to play in it and win cash. Funny fact, I beat EGLZgamer at MLG DC. Now, to people that don't watch much, if you'd be guessing who would win something like that, would you guess me or the person with EG in their name? If I had needed to be voted in to MLG to be able to participate, something like that would never be able to happen, as I'd automatically be written off since I could be a player that is not popular or well known at the time. This does not go for just me obviously, but imagine players even less known than myself...that could be better... To do this NASL, which I want to get into, I suddenly feel like I need to take more time out of practice now to get on twitter, facebook, stream 20x more, and basically everything and anything that can get me more exposure =/! Replay pack in the works now Funny fact, my tvt is nothing to brag about beating... shall I list the people who I have beat at MLG's? ...
I was just using an example of an "underdog" situation man...<3.
There's tons more situations like that where people are like "EL O EL THAT GUY IS DEFINITELY GONNA GET CRUSHED!" and the person watching hasn't even seen either of the players playing to base anything off of, they just see the names and think, "oh, that's megaBossman, he will win cause he's in so and so team, with so and so etc."
Even GSL's system has it where players WORK their way up into the leagues, they aren't voted in.
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On February 22 2011 11:00 Brad wrote:
Lol @ all the ONE guys surging into the top 20. :/
they deserve it as much as Liquid, EG, Fnatic, ROOT, but we all knnow the 4 teams i just mentioned will fill 15/15 slots :p
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On February 22 2011 11:01 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:57 DueSs wrote:On February 22 2011 10:52 Holcan wrote:On February 22 2011 10:51 DueSs wrote:
God. So many fucking useless trolling. If all of you that are so upset about this or that can't take it--then go make your own gd league and find the sponsors to shell out 400k. Constructive criticism is great--things advance from that--but bickering for the sake of bickering is dumb. If you're going to criticize add a comma and make a suggestion. >:-S you call other people trolls and come out with the worst logic in the thread, good job. And obviously you don't get the logic. You criticized me without adding a comma and adding a suggestion. Sigh. i refused to read the rest of your post after your first half was so blatantly ignorant.
Typical. Keep trollin', eh. =/
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i dont think they will let "lesser" players in just because they get voted.
i do hope that we have a good mix of players from europe and america. go hasu,socke and ret
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On February 22 2011 10:59 zerious wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:50 FrostyTreats wrote:On February 22 2011 10:47 DeltruS wrote:On February 22 2011 10:39 FrostyTreats wrote:On February 22 2011 10:33 DyEnasTy wrote:And to people complaining about not being able to get in unless your a well known player This is a quote from Incontrol in an interview on G4 about the qualification process: Can you talk more about the qualification process?
Yeah absolutely. Russ, from GosuCoaching, is the mastermind behind this whole thing and has this whole thing mapped out to a T. There is no teams, but every team is going to be maxed out at five players. There's not going to be like nine Evil Geniuses guys or eight Liquid guys. It will be five of the best from every team at most. Most likely it will be three or four of the players from each team. And then every player is supposed to be backed by a $250 refundable fee. Essentially what it is, is every time they're rude or they're late or any kind of unforeseeable problems occur they'll be penalized $25 or $50 and that comes out of the refundable fee of course. But most people, hopefully all, will be completely and immaculately fine and will get that $250 back. But the idea is to make them accountable.
Each team player will be put in a different division, so no one will hit a member of their team in their division so there will be no HuK vs. Ret in divisional play. And then it will take over the course of nine weeks in their division and the top two advance. And then with that top two there's another qualification process as well. Ten players per division will play, it takes nine weeks to play everyone in their division. There is also a playoff week where we decide the other 5 seats into the finals (10 seeds form divisional play, 5 from playoffs and one from open).
We're also going to have an open tournament so even the people that aren't qualifiers from this they're also going to be able to enter a 1,000 man open tournament and then the number one player from that is in the final sixteen. So it's kind of cool. Definitely team generated in the sense that if you're on a top professional team, if you're one of the top fifty non-Koreans in this tournament, but even if you're not, you can prove your worth through the open. And the second and third and fourth place people will also get rewards from the open. The second one gets flown to the offline final in LA and they're the first replacement. So if someone can't make it for Visa issues, they get sick, or they just don't show, which would be ludicrous, that person is the first one in line. And then third and fourth get auto birthed into season two.
Read more: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/710588/North-American-Star-League-Exclusive-Interview-with-Geoff-iNcontroL-Robinson.html#ixzz1EeBXtggQ I assure you, a 1000 man tourney for 1 spot.. even MVP would struggle. also, how does the teams work? does that mean the top 50 that will be chosen.. only 5 from a team will be chosen at max? The TLOpen is 1024 players. Most of the good players will already be in the NASL. MVP would stomp everone. i guarantee you mvps chances of winning a 1000 man tourney the likes of this would probably be around 20%... maybe less.. maybe a little more. Being better isn't enough Bomber didn't even qualify for the GSL and that is arguably much easier to qualify for... how many spots are given to code A from qualies? 8? more? and the TLOPEN is an amazing system... many many tourneys and a pointbase for those who dont make first place. MVP won Gainward, which had 700+ players, while losing only one game the whole tournament
atm the map pool favors terran, You can't really find a map that makes our race hard to play. This does help. However. A 1000 man tourney offers a great deal of randomness... 700+ is still quite impressive but in the state the game is right now because of the maps... a lot of aggressive strats have a much higher win ratio then they should. Which makes these tourneys really hard. Terran is favored in this sense that it has the ability to play the maps alot more safely then other races but we still can lose to alot of these strats and it is MUCH worse for other races. No matter how good you are.. winning 700,1000 man tourneys is very very hard.
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On February 22 2011 11:02 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:43 Lz wrote:On February 22 2011 10:17 avilo wrote:As a player like everyone else that has been practicing his ass off for ages, I really want to get into this league like the other hardcore people trying to be progamers...and that is one thing that MLG does in fact do very well - equal opportunity for every player to play in it and win cash. Funny fact, I beat EGLZgamer at MLG DC. Now, to people that don't watch much, if you'd be guessing who would win something like that, would you guess me or the person with EG in their name? If I had needed to be voted in to MLG to be able to participate, something like that would never be able to happen, as I'd automatically be written off since I could be a player that is not popular or well known at the time. This does not go for just me obviously, but imagine players even less known than myself...that could be better... To do this NASL, which I want to get into, I suddenly feel like I need to take more time out of practice now to get on twitter, facebook, stream 20x more, and basically everything and anything that can get me more exposure =/! Replay pack in the works now Funny fact, my tvt is nothing to brag about beating... shall I list the people who I have beat at MLG's? ... I was just using an example of an "underdog" situation man...<3. There's tons more situations like that where people are like "EL O EL THAT GUY IS DEFINITELY GONNA GET CRUSHED!" and the person watching hasn't even seen either of the players playing to base anything off of, they just see the names and think, "oh, that's megaBossman, he will win cause he's in so and so team, with so and so etc." Even GSL's system has it where players WORK their way up into the leagues, they aren't voted in.
you are in comparison to actionjesuz
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On February 22 2011 11:03 DueSs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 11:01 Holcan wrote:On February 22 2011 10:57 DueSs wrote:On February 22 2011 10:52 Holcan wrote:On February 22 2011 10:51 DueSs wrote:
God. So many fucking useless trolling. If all of you that are so upset about this or that can't take it--then go make your own gd league and find the sponsors to shell out 400k. Constructive criticism is great--things advance from that--but bickering for the sake of bickering is dumb. If you're going to criticize add a comma and make a suggestion. >:-S you call other people trolls and come out with the worst logic in the thread, good job. And obviously you don't get the logic. You criticized me without adding a comma and adding a suggestion. Sigh. i refused to read the rest of your post after your first half was so blatantly ignorant. Typical. Keep trollin', eh. =/
almost 10x your posts without a warning, and im the troll, thats rich.
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On February 22 2011 10:53 chaokel wrote: where are all the day[9] votes, come on people.
They'll come when Day9 mentions it in a daily.
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The voting is only partially responsible for who gets an invite. Ultimately it's someone in NASL that makes the decisions so there's a least a chance of objectivity going into the decision process.
We shall see, they haven't fucked up anything, yet.
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I hope they get lesser people in if voted. The youtube stars have a huge fanbase backing them up, it's good publicity.
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On February 22 2011 10:59 zerious wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 10:50 FrostyTreats wrote:On February 22 2011 10:47 DeltruS wrote:On February 22 2011 10:39 FrostyTreats wrote:On February 22 2011 10:33 DyEnasTy wrote:And to people complaining about not being able to get in unless your a well known player This is a quote from Incontrol in an interview on G4 about the qualification process: Can you talk more about the qualification process?
Yeah absolutely. Russ, from GosuCoaching, is the mastermind behind this whole thing and has this whole thing mapped out to a T. There is no teams, but every team is going to be maxed out at five players. There's not going to be like nine Evil Geniuses guys or eight Liquid guys. It will be five of the best from every team at most. Most likely it will be three or four of the players from each team. And then every player is supposed to be backed by a $250 refundable fee. Essentially what it is, is every time they're rude or they're late or any kind of unforeseeable problems occur they'll be penalized $25 or $50 and that comes out of the refundable fee of course. But most people, hopefully all, will be completely and immaculately fine and will get that $250 back. But the idea is to make them accountable.
Each team player will be put in a different division, so no one will hit a member of their team in their division so there will be no HuK vs. Ret in divisional play. And then it will take over the course of nine weeks in their division and the top two advance. And then with that top two there's another qualification process as well. Ten players per division will play, it takes nine weeks to play everyone in their division. There is also a playoff week where we decide the other 5 seats into the finals (10 seeds form divisional play, 5 from playoffs and one from open).
We're also going to have an open tournament so even the people that aren't qualifiers from this they're also going to be able to enter a 1,000 man open tournament and then the number one player from that is in the final sixteen. So it's kind of cool. Definitely team generated in the sense that if you're on a top professional team, if you're one of the top fifty non-Koreans in this tournament, but even if you're not, you can prove your worth through the open. And the second and third and fourth place people will also get rewards from the open. The second one gets flown to the offline final in LA and they're the first replacement. So if someone can't make it for Visa issues, they get sick, or they just don't show, which would be ludicrous, that person is the first one in line. And then third and fourth get auto birthed into season two.
Read more: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/710588/North-American-Star-League-Exclusive-Interview-with-Geoff-iNcontroL-Robinson.html#ixzz1EeBXtggQ I assure you, a 1000 man tourney for 1 spot.. even MVP would struggle. also, how does the teams work? does that mean the top 50 that will be chosen.. only 5 from a team will be chosen at max? The TLOpen is 1024 players. Most of the good players will already be in the NASL. MVP would stomp everone. i guarantee you mvps chances of winning a 1000 man tourney the likes of this would probably be around 20%... maybe less.. maybe a little more. Being better isn't enough Bomber didn't even qualify for the GSL and that is arguably much easier to qualify for... how many spots are given to code A from qualies? 8? more? and the TLOPEN is an amazing system... many many tourneys and a pointbase for those who dont make first place. MVP won Gainward, which had 700+ players, while losing only one game the whole tournament
Yes but you're assuming MVP doesn't get invited. Players that could easily win a 1000 man tournament like Idra/Jinro etc are going to get invited. Honestly other than those 2 I can't actually think of anyone else who could hands down win a 1000 man tournament with no problem. I watch a lot of the little tournaments where TONS of pros sign up for like 20$ prize pool, but there is never 1 person who wins them all.
The interview basically said it is a popularity contest by saying players from teams will be invited, and then some lucky guy who wins a 1000 man tournament will be invited. Once again, just because you are sponsored doesn't mean you are automatically better than someone who isn't.
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So who's fucking with the votes? Destiny gained just insta gained 2000 votes, and all the ONE clan guys shot up from nowhere, and they are by no means the popular players.
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