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GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
February 22 2011 01:14 GMT
#141
i think at least 5 guys should go in by open tournament just 1 oportunity seems unfair
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
February 22 2011 01:14 GMT
#142
On February 22 2011 10:08 mcc wrote:
who is destiny ?


A very popular player among the SCreddit community and has made some youtube videos that get a good amount of views.

"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
February 22 2011 01:15 GMT
#143
On February 22 2011 10:10 Zechs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 10:06 iNcontroL wrote:
The voting is a fun way to get involved and support your favorite players. It helps but by no means WHAT SO EVER decides who gets selected.

Please stop looking for ways to make this a bad thing.


To my mind, that implies that this is basically just an invite tournament with a bit of "LET THE PUBLIC DECIDE" marketing spiel. Don't get me wrong, i want this to be awesome, but this system seems far from perfect.


There is no perfect system for tournaments. Expecting any tournament structure to be perfect is asking to be let down.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
February 22 2011 01:15 GMT
#144
On February 22 2011 10:06 iNcontroL wrote:
The voting is a fun way to get involved and support your favorite players. It helps but by no means WHAT SO EVER decides who gets selected.

Please stop looking for ways to make this a bad thing.


Thanks man. I highly doubt that the invites are only going to be based on this voting system. I just feel kinda worried for the european scene that the "well known" players only get invites/votes. As you can see in the tl qualifiers there are many unkown good ones out here, so would be nice if you take some advices from european casters/progamers. Players like slider/kuba/nerchio/insolence/tod/goody/happy/stephano/naniwa... might not get so many votes but still are considerable.
Anyways purely ecstatic for this event! Really like your effort to geht the european scene participating/watching!
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
February 22 2011 01:15 GMT
#145
On February 22 2011 10:06 iNcontroL wrote:
The voting is a fun way to get involved and support your favorite players. It helps but by no means WHAT SO EVER decides who gets selected.

Please stop looking for ways to make this a bad thing.


I agree that its a fun thing. I'm very disappointed that players are being 'selected' and not having to grind through preliminaries like they would have to in korea.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
February 22 2011 01:15 GMT
#146
Poll: I like making polls about polls.

Yes (40)
 
73%

No (15)
 
27%

55 total votes

Your vote: I like making polls about polls.

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
February 22 2011 01:16 GMT
#147
On February 22 2011 10:06 iNcontroL wrote:
The voting is a fun way to get involved and support your favorite players. It helps but by no means WHAT SO EVER decides who gets selected.

Please stop looking for ways to make this a bad thing.

There will always be naysayers and people looking for something to criticise, don't let the loud minority get to you.

This announcement is awesome, you guys are awesome for putting this thing together for us. I love the system you're trying to implement, with the extended divisions, the backstories, the community involvement. Don't let the haters get to you and focus on the good feedback, man. :D
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
February 22 2011 01:16 GMT
#148
haha IMMvp is catching up.
SlapMySalami
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
February 22 2011 01:16 GMT
#149
On February 22 2011 10:13 Telcontar wrote:
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On February 22 2011 09:32 Buddhist wrote:

"50 players will compete in an online group stage in which 15 players will advance to the Grand Finals, which will be a 16 man LAN event. "

I guess IdrA was already chosen? or is that a typo.



I don't understand the addition to the quote but the quote means 15 people will advance from their 10 man groups and then 1 player will win a 1024 player online tournament and also participate in the LAN event.
marineking will u huk my bigtt1 ilu
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
February 22 2011 01:17 GMT
#150
On February 22 2011 10:14 Aegeis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 10:08 mcc wrote:
who is destiny ?


A very popular player among the SCreddit community and has made some youtube videos that get a good amount of views.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kY1TR9GPSM


...but he doesn't deserve to take a top progamer's spot, not saying he shouldn't be in the league.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 22 2011 01:17 GMT
#151
once gg.ru finds out, BratOk will be up at #1.

The fact that Destiny is top 5 is disheartening as is.
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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 01:20:56
February 22 2011 01:17 GMT
#152
As a player like everyone else that has been practicing his ass off for ages, I really want to get into this league like the other hardcore people trying to be progamers...and that is one thing that MLG does in fact do very well - equal opportunity for every player to play in it and win cash.

Funny fact, I beat EGLZgamer at MLG DC. Now, to people that don't watch much, if you'd be guessing who would win something like that, would you guess me or the person with EG in their name?

If I had needed to be voted in to MLG to be able to participate, something like that would never be able to happen, as I'd automatically be written off since I could be a player that is not popular or well known at the time.

This does not go for just me obviously, but imagine players even less known than myself...that could be better...

To do this NASL, which I want to get into, I suddenly feel like I need to take more time out of practice now to get on twitter, facebook, stream 20x more, and basically everything and anything that can get me more exposure =/!

Replay pack in the works now
Sup
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
February 22 2011 01:17 GMT
#153
I was going to post this:
To be honest, there are barely 50 "top" level players on EU and US combined. It's not really a bad decision to make it based off invites. If players want to get known and are actually good, they should at least be pretty high up on ladder since that would be their main form of practice, and I don't see many unknowns in the top 200 in the world. People bring up the "unknowns" that have won the TL qualifiers, but those players have been pretty high up on the EU ladder. The list of good players, players who actually deserve $100K, is pretty short.

But then I saw Destiny is in the top 5, so I rescind my above opinion that voting is a good idea. I respect Destiny, think his stream and commentary is great, but do not think he is a top level player. If Day9 entered the running, I'm sure he would also get a ton of votes. And as much as I like Day9, I don't think he or others are deserving of an invite based on popularity alone.
krazymunky
Profile Joined June 2008
United States727 Posts
February 22 2011 01:18 GMT
#154
ok people everyone time to start voting for SlayerS_BoxeR. if hes on there
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
February 22 2011 01:18 GMT
#155
A popularity contest to begin with is not such a bad idea, since realistically you want to make ends meet and that means maximizing viewers, which lends itself to pleasing what the crowds want. In the long-term, though, I'd love to see most of the players come from rigorous qualifiers so as to promote the US competitive scene.
shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
February 22 2011 01:19 GMT
#156
kas, thorzain and nightend need votes!
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Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
February 22 2011 01:19 GMT
#157
On February 22 2011 10:13 ImHuko wrote:
Stop assuming everything is to make this bad. We just finished watching a high-school production of an announcement thats been hyped for months. Then we're told to vote for our favorite players, so we assumed it was a popularity contest.
"Third, we will listen to our audience. The community never ceases to amaze us with its ingenuity and determination. We think if we keep you close, we can’t go wrong. And last of all, we must remember why we do this: for the love of the game. "
By telling us to stop saying negative things, you are going about what NASL.TV is all about. No one is complaining about NASL.TV, everyone loves it. They just want it to be perfect.

I think he means stop turning every little thing into a big 8 page freakout. Just have fun with the voting and enjoy the games (which is what they mean by "We think if we keep you close, we can’t go wrong.")

Also be pumped at how awesome this is!
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
February 22 2011 01:19 GMT
#158
So who are the people who actually review these youtube videos and pick the players that participate in the NASL? Is it top secret so they don't get too much hate? :D
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 01:22:04
February 22 2011 01:19 GMT
#159
guys the best players will be in for sure.... dont worry so i dont see the problem on getting some popular players in cause they will bring more viewers dont you think ?

only thing i think should change is that there should be more spots for open tournament people to qualify at least for first season cmon..


dont you guys want more people to try get in ? you have to give them a change to make more people embrace starcraft 2 as a eSport

cmon people like poker cause they all think they got a chance to win and 1 open tournament with 1000 ppl doesnt seem a lot of chances in it for new guys trying to prove themselfs
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
carbon_based
Profile Joined December 2010
United States46 Posts
February 22 2011 01:19 GMT
#160
On February 22 2011 10:06 iNcontroL wrote:
The voting is a fun way to get involved and support your favorite players. It helps but by no means WHAT SO EVER decides who gets selected.

Please stop looking for ways to make this a bad thing.



well, according to the interview, the selection process is already "down to a T" or was that a misquote? are we to wait for more announcements regarding the qualifying process, because all we know so far is teams seem to have priority, you can get american idol'd on, or you can be the king 4gater out of 1000 and get a shot against the big boys who will swiftly run through your match history and know everything about you....

just have an open qualifier with swiss rounds and cut to the top 32, then have 32 slots for teams that qualified at least 1 player in the top 32 and u can keep all the politics and butt-kissing for those slots, but seriously if top caliber players know outright that they have NO chance at this tournament, they will mock, laugh, and claim its illegitimacy all day and night, the audience will take note, and you wont get the viewers you need. this was a big mistake, please correct it, there's still time, just say tomorrow "of course there's open slots, there were gonna be open slots all the time, quit yer bitching guyz"
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