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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 05 2010 13:00 GMT
#81
its nice to see more good players come from Canada, they had some insane good ones with Grrr and Testie back in the days

Looking forward to see more of Silver(awesome name btw), beating IdrA, qxc and HuK is quite impressive to say atleast
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
August 05 2010 14:00 GMT
#82
On August 05 2010 13:52 OHtRUe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 13:44 G2Wolf wrote:
On August 05 2010 13:24 OHtRUe wrote:
No offense, but this proves that theres something wrong with the game. This guy shouldn't 2-0 IdrA with his gaming history and his whole philosophy of the game. I feel incredibly bad for IdrA for choosing zerg because if he played Terran i doubt he would lose a game.

CJ Entus PROGAMER who played pro level SC BW and plays 10 hours of SC2 gets 2-0'd by pretty much by a casual who references a confederate general for his SC play......


You mean studying a ton of sc2 games, practicing, knowing what counters what, having a strategy and adapting it, playing an opponent's weaknesses, and keeping calm and collected and not going on tilt during a match isn't the right philosophy?

Also, he's beaten HuK (P) and QXC (T), 2 other King of the Beta players. I suppose that makes T OP against T also?


What kind of arguement is that? You dont think that IdrA does that also? The fact is there is no counter to his "gameplan" (which is trash by the way, which has been shown throughout is vods) is the problem. Also adapting to what strategy? He didn't adapt to anything he just did his rofl push where there is nothing that zerg could possibly do. Throughout each of his games HE DIDNT SCOUT ONCE, NOT ONE SCAN ON THE ZERGS BASE. Calm and collected? What do you think IdrA was doing this whole match? On the fritz hurling over his computer having like 4 monsters beside him? Please kid get an arguement~

Also HuK gave him the series (which by the way was GARBAGE) and what do you mean T is OP against T? Im saying T is overpowered against zerg WHICH IS TRUE. Look at tournament rankings, ladder rankings, ANYTHING and tell me that zerg isnt underpowered. Good day sir


If you are going to rage you can at least get your facts straight. He DID scan, which he even said in the interview...
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
August 05 2010 14:12 GMT
#83
On August 05 2010 23:00 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 13:52 OHtRUe wrote:
On August 05 2010 13:44 G2Wolf wrote:
On August 05 2010 13:24 OHtRUe wrote:
No offense, but this proves that theres something wrong with the game. This guy shouldn't 2-0 IdrA with his gaming history and his whole philosophy of the game. I feel incredibly bad for IdrA for choosing zerg because if he played Terran i doubt he would lose a game.

CJ Entus PROGAMER who played pro level SC BW and plays 10 hours of SC2 gets 2-0'd by pretty much by a casual who references a confederate general for his SC play......


You mean studying a ton of sc2 games, practicing, knowing what counters what, having a strategy and adapting it, playing an opponent's weaknesses, and keeping calm and collected and not going on tilt during a match isn't the right philosophy?

Also, he's beaten HuK (P) and QXC (T), 2 other King of the Beta players. I suppose that makes T OP against T also?


What kind of arguement is that? You dont think that IdrA does that also? The fact is there is no counter to his "gameplan" (which is trash by the way, which has been shown throughout is vods) is the problem. Also adapting to what strategy? He didn't adapt to anything he just did his rofl push where there is nothing that zerg could possibly do. Throughout each of his games HE DIDNT SCOUT ONCE, NOT ONE SCAN ON THE ZERGS BASE. Calm and collected? What do you think IdrA was doing this whole match? On the fritz hurling over his computer having like 4 monsters beside him? Please kid get an arguement~

Also HuK gave him the series (which by the way was GARBAGE) and what do you mean T is OP against T? Im saying T is overpowered against zerg WHICH IS TRUE. Look at tournament rankings, ladder rankings, ANYTHING and tell me that zerg isnt underpowered. Good day sir


If you are going to rage you can at least get your facts straight. He DID scan, which he even said in the interview...


He scanned and he saw a pool and a hatchery. he is such an incredible player that he knew the exact counter to this combination of zerg buildings: build literally anything

He never saw any tech. His scouting scv didn't even scout idra's main, it just saw creep and went back to stop the hatchery. He didn't know there were mutas until after he pushed out, after he put down ebay, and after he started making a turret. He had no fucking clue at all.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
August 05 2010 14:14 GMT
#84
On August 05 2010 17:40 crappen wrote:
Clarification: Being polite is the same as not showing emotions.

Can we please accept that IdrA rages and speak his mind? If Silver takes IdrA's talk serious, he is the one having the problem. I am sure however, that Silver is too wise to take the "attack" (which we all know is not an attack, but a human defense mechanism from IdrA) personally.

Let people rage, and lets stop being polite and instead not take the emotions the other player omit as an attack on you.


Being polite is not the same as not showing emotions. Were have you gotten that idea from? I don't mind Idra raging as I find it pretty amusing, but people should stop making excuses for people that do rage. You can rage without taking it out on someone else. Just don't type what you feel. Scream out loud in your room. Smash your keyboard against the wall. All legit ways of raging that doesn't involve putting down other players. I do agree though you shouldn't take it personally. I don't think Silver was the real reason why Idra lashed out.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
August 05 2010 14:16 GMT
#85
On August 05 2010 23:12 floor exercise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 23:00 nam nam wrote:
On August 05 2010 13:52 OHtRUe wrote:
On August 05 2010 13:44 G2Wolf wrote:
On August 05 2010 13:24 OHtRUe wrote:
No offense, but this proves that theres something wrong with the game. This guy shouldn't 2-0 IdrA with his gaming history and his whole philosophy of the game. I feel incredibly bad for IdrA for choosing zerg because if he played Terran i doubt he would lose a game.

CJ Entus PROGAMER who played pro level SC BW and plays 10 hours of SC2 gets 2-0'd by pretty much by a casual who references a confederate general for his SC play......


You mean studying a ton of sc2 games, practicing, knowing what counters what, having a strategy and adapting it, playing an opponent's weaknesses, and keeping calm and collected and not going on tilt during a match isn't the right philosophy?

Also, he's beaten HuK (P) and QXC (T), 2 other King of the Beta players. I suppose that makes T OP against T also?


What kind of arguement is that? You dont think that IdrA does that also? The fact is there is no counter to his "gameplan" (which is trash by the way, which has been shown throughout is vods) is the problem. Also adapting to what strategy? He didn't adapt to anything he just did his rofl push where there is nothing that zerg could possibly do. Throughout each of his games HE DIDNT SCOUT ONCE, NOT ONE SCAN ON THE ZERGS BASE. Calm and collected? What do you think IdrA was doing this whole match? On the fritz hurling over his computer having like 4 monsters beside him? Please kid get an arguement~

Also HuK gave him the series (which by the way was GARBAGE) and what do you mean T is OP against T? Im saying T is overpowered against zerg WHICH IS TRUE. Look at tournament rankings, ladder rankings, ANYTHING and tell me that zerg isnt underpowered. Good day sir


If you are going to rage you can at least get your facts straight. He DID scan, which he even said in the interview...


He scanned and he saw a pool and a hatchery. he is such an incredible player that he knew the exact counter to this combination of zerg buildings: build literally anything

He never saw any tech. His scouting scv didn't even scout idra's main, it just saw creep and went back to stop the hatchery. He didn't know there were mutas until after he pushed out, after he put down ebay, and after he started making a turret. He had no fucking clue at all.


Once I scouted him, I knew I wanted to punish him early for his economic build order and so I planned to do an early mech-push depending on what unit composition I saw from him. He invested in zerglings and mutalisks, so naturally I made hellions and thors. Once I scanned and saw his next tech structure going up was a banelings nest, I knew I wanted to engage before he could benefit from his new tech.


Yeah no fucking clue...
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
August 05 2010 14:17 GMT
#86
Except he made hellions and thors far before he knew he was going muta, how do you not understand this? There was no inclination from his very limited knowledge to suggest mutas. Do you know the first time he saw mutas in the entire game? When they ran into his turret
catamorphist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States297 Posts
August 05 2010 14:29 GMT
#87
On August 05 2010 13:46 iEchoic wrote:
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On August 05 2010 13:36 OHtRUe wrote:
On August 05 2010 13:30 Slipspace wrote:
i like how he wasn't disrespectful to IdrA

Idra, you're an awesome player. no need for bad manners when you lose occasionally

No he has his right to rage because this is his living and his career.


And he's still not a professional. Being a professional means acting like a professional. If you don't act like a professional, you're not one. This applies to every field in life, even fields where you can hide yourself behind a computer.

As time goes on, new talent is going to emerge. It's funny to see people upset when new players play well. Props to Silver.


How convenient that you define what "acting like a professional" is, not the person playing the game full-time for a salary.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/281144/1/catamorphist/
Sirstompalot
Profile Joined August 2010
1 Post
August 05 2010 14:35 GMT
#88
Silver was a very strong player from TFT as a 1v1 player and as a 2v2 player with ultimas. He isnt a nobody, just not really a huge tournament participant, but most early TFT veterans would remember him.

Its been years but I do remember his 2s team being on top of the ladder with a pretty ridic record, and also having a very strong 1v1 ladder record as well.

Good job silver on owning idra!
Zironic
Profile Joined May 2007
Sweden341 Posts
August 05 2010 14:39 GMT
#89
How convenient that you define what "acting like a professional" is, not the person playing the game full-time for a salary.

Acting professionally is an ancient concept and it means that you focus on doing your job properly rather then getting your emotions in the way. Idra is hardly the first professional in the history of mankind, there are other people then him in the world that somehow manage to get a salary and behave properly, who would have thought?
shawabawa
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom417 Posts
August 05 2010 14:42 GMT
#90
On August 05 2010 23:17 floor exercise wrote:
Except he made hellions and thors far before he knew he was going muta, how do you not understand this? There was no inclination from his very limited knowledge to suggest mutas. Do you know the first time he saw mutas in the entire game? When they ran into his turret

Maybe because he had hellions and marines with a tank and what did zerg have? Zerglings. Nothing else. What could he be going for? Hydras doesn't make sense against that mix, roaches would've been out already, had to be mutas. You don't have to see something to know it's there.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
August 05 2010 14:44 GMT
#91
Team liquid has got to invite that guy to their team, before Root or EG gets him.
I am not good with quotes
chakuzabruder
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1 Post
August 05 2010 14:47 GMT
#92
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 05 2010 14:48 GMT
#93
Quote: "He is a very talented artist named Keenan Kain."

OMG my names Keenan! XDXDXDXDXD
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
August 05 2010 14:50 GMT
#94
On August 05 2010 20:19 Everlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 16:12 Anfere wrote:
As for the game on metalopolis, Idra really didn't have anything, he committed so much into mutalisk even when the guy had like 4 thors, wich is pretty stupid. The basic roach/baneling force would of cleaned that push so easily instead of using all the resources to get muta's vs their perfect counter. I mean you can rage when you have the good unit composition and still loose, but when you have a totally idiotic unit mix that will loose 100% because it is facing it's direct counter, why insult the guy ?
Again GG Silver.


This is so truth..

To say something like - "Apologize for playing this race" or "I actually am really good" is just plain wrong. I wonder how can Idra play with Koreans with this attitude..


He wouldn't have said a damn word, if he played Maka or ITR or someone like that and lost in just the same way.

btw. didn't he originally switch to Zerg, because they were dominant back then?
AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
August 05 2010 14:54 GMT
#95
Hehe, Silver sounds like a monk. I think I'll start calling him the SC2 Monk.

Also, I wonder if IdrA would become super-enraged if Silver's only response to IdrA's babbling at the start of game 2 was "You done yet?"
Heroes, Hearthstone, and SC2 videos: http://www.youtube.com/AskJoshy
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
August 05 2010 14:56 GMT
#96
On August 05 2010 23:50 CruelZeratul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 20:19 Everlong wrote:
On August 05 2010 16:12 Anfere wrote:
As for the game on metalopolis, Idra really didn't have anything, he committed so much into mutalisk even when the guy had like 4 thors, wich is pretty stupid. The basic roach/baneling force would of cleaned that push so easily instead of using all the resources to get muta's vs their perfect counter. I mean you can rage when you have the good unit composition and still loose, but when you have a totally idiotic unit mix that will loose 100% because it is facing it's direct counter, why insult the guy ?
Again GG Silver.


This is so truth..

To say something like - "Apologize for playing this race" or "I actually am really good" is just plain wrong. I wonder how can Idra play with Koreans with this attitude..


He wouldn't have said a damn word, if he played Maka or ITR or someone like that and lost in just the same way.

btw. didn't he originally switch to Zerg, because they were dominant back then?


He wouldn't have said a word because he believes they put even more effort in practicing than him, so he feels if he loses, it's ok, they worked for it and they deserved, whether the race helped or not.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
August 05 2010 14:57 GMT
#97
On August 05 2010 23:42 shawabawa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 23:17 floor exercise wrote:
Except he made hellions and thors far before he knew he was going muta, how do you not understand this? There was no inclination from his very limited knowledge to suggest mutas. Do you know the first time he saw mutas in the entire game? When they ran into his turret

Maybe because he had hellions and marines with a tank and what did zerg have? Zerglings. Nothing else. What could he be going for? Hydras doesn't make sense against that mix, roaches would've been out already, had to be mutas. You don't have to see something to know it's there.


He started making thors

before he even saw idra's natural

he had no clue what idra was doing when he started making thors

zero. He had no idea, not even the slightest inclination, of what Idra was building, and he didn't care. He didn't need to know that information because he was just building random mech shit and attack moving.

If he says otherwise, he's lying to make himself sound good in the interview. He had no clue, for all intents it was completely impertinent, he was going to build what he was going to build and attack move with it without any regard for his opponents build or units.

Whatever Idra's build was, his units would have been out by then, but Silver would have no clue what they were because he didn't effectively scout at all.

Not gonna argue with you people anymore, watch the game. it was a guy in his base building whatever he wanted, you can try to pass that off as strategic genius all you want but you are clueless if you believe that.
PuZzLE.LoKo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States47 Posts
August 05 2010 15:01 GMT
#98
On August 05 2010 23:47 chakuzabruder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 13 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              05 2010 13      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:24 OHtRUe wrote:
No offense, but this proves that theres something wrong with the game. This guy shouldn't 2-0 IdrA with his gaming history and his whole philosophy of the game. I feel incredibly bad for IdrA for choosing zerg because if he played Terran i doubt he would lose a game.

CJ Entus PROGAMER who played pro level SC BW and plays 10 hours of SC2 gets 2-0'd by pretty much by a casual who references a confederate general for his SC play......


wtf is ur problem you idra fanboy? go lick his asshole and ask him to put ur small dick inside his asnus
your just a fucking noob, everywhere defending idra... so pathetic
you fucking ugly virgin, i hate ugly people and ur definitely one u fucking noob
ur just like idra.. u'll never get a life, u'll never get any girls.. ur just a random pc nerd.. when ur 40 years old.. u'll look back at ur life and realize that all u achived is being a random pc nerd.. u suck man, pathetic pple without life
loser


Wow. Talk about a huge overreaction to a reasonable post. Is there a way to report posts/users for this kinda garbage? This response is terrible, and you should be banned man.

I honestly feel sorry for you that you need to vent so much anger on starcraft forums. Perhaps you should take a break from the game, or just quit altogether because it isn't worth getting so worked up and angry over such trivial things.

I'm shocked to see such a post on these forums where there is usually such a stellar community.
catamorphist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States297 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 15:04:31
August 05 2010 15:02 GMT
#99
On August 05 2010 23:39 Zironic wrote:
Show nested quote +
How convenient that you define what "acting like a professional" is, not the person playing the game full-time for a salary.

Acting professionally is an ancient concept and it means that you focus on doing your job properly rather then getting your emotions in the way. Idra is hardly the first professional in the history of mankind, there are other people then him in the world that somehow manage to get a salary and behave properly, who would have thought?


What you're describing might be "acting dignified," but the guy is in the entertainment business. Part of his responsibility is marketing himself to the fanbase. It's ridiculous to say that trash-talking the opposition is somehow letting his emotions get in the way of his job. His job is to get people to watch his games, so that the sponsors are happy.

If "acting professionally" means "not displaying emotion", I completely disagree that professional athletes, gamers, or entertainers should "act professionally." And in fact, few of them do. I certainly don't think it helps Starcraft 2 gain credibility as a spectator sport if all the players are restrained from getting angry, argumentative, or establishing rivalries.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/281144/1/catamorphist/
Zironic
Profile Joined May 2007
Sweden341 Posts
August 05 2010 15:03 GMT
#100
Not gonna argue with you people anymore, watch the game. it was a guy in his base building whatever he wanted, you can try to pass that off as strategic genius all you want but you are clueless if you believe that.

Though his army would probably have been smashed to bits if Idra had spent all that money on something other then Mutas. How skilled is it on a scale of 1-10 to mass Muta into 3 thors?
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