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MythicalMage
Profile Joined May 2010
1360 Posts
August 05 2010 09:41 GMT
#61
On August 05 2010 18:34 Apolo wrote:
Does silver know what "ego" means? If Idra's ego collapsed he'd have to go to a mental institute with severe psychosis.

I agree with Idra on some points, he plays for a living, that's his job. His frustration is because he believes a random guy that doesn't put half the effort he has put on the game, comes from nowhere and beats him because of racial imbalance.

Silver unsconsciously admitted terran is better when he said the reasons why terran fit his style. Revert back the protoss nerfs, and you'd see protoss fit his style as well.

That's implying a hell of a lot. He just said that he liked the ability to surprise his opponent with Terran. You can do that with any race, but he liked Terrans options for creativity best.
GaussWaffle
Profile Joined May 2010
United States211 Posts
August 05 2010 09:42 GMT
#62
On August 05 2010 16:12 Anfere wrote:
Humm just saw the games vs Idra, he really used Terran to it's fullest and totally destroyed Idra. I'm a zerg player myself, and all zergs playing at top diamond know that on LT, it's really dangerous to Expand so fast vs Terran due to that Tank clif drop.

The best example of play is Dimaga who always delay his expansion and takes directly the gold after some early harass. As for the game on metalopolis, Idra really didn't have anything, he committed so much into mutalisk even when the guy had like 4 thors, wich is pretty stupid. The basic roach/baneling force would of cleaned that push so easily instead of using all the resources to get muta's vs their perfect counter. I mean you can rage when you have the good unit composition and still loose, but when you have a totally idiotic unit mix that will loose 100% because it is facing it's direct counter, why insult the guy ?

Well he raged but in the end, he played really poorly and lost not to Terrans being imbalance, but to himself being a total ass not managing his temper and stubbornness, plus some poor decision making under pressure.

Again GG Silver.


This. Too many IdrAites defending his honor over two games.

I'm a Zerg player and have mad respect for IdrA, but from watching the replays he got worked those two games... may not always happen but sometimes it does, and it did then.

<3 Silver fighting

Oh and HuK did give away game 5 : (, but Silver took advantage of HuK's mistakes in a way I haven't seen a lot of player do so...so more kudos
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 09:45:56
August 05 2010 09:45 GMT
#63
On August 05 2010 18:41 MythicalMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 18:34 Apolo wrote:
Does silver know what "ego" means? If Idra's ego collapsed he'd have to go to a mental institute with severe psychosis.

I agree with Idra on some points, he plays for a living, that's his job. His frustration is because he believes a random guy that doesn't put half the effort he has put on the game, comes from nowhere and beats him because of racial imbalance.

Silver unsconsciously admitted terran is better when he said the reasons why terran fit his style. Revert back the protoss nerfs, and you'd see protoss fit his style as well.

That's implying a hell of a lot. He just said that he liked the ability to surprise his opponent with Terran. You can do that with any race, but he liked Terrans options for creativity best.


Yes you can surprise your oponent with any race. Just rush all the workers to his base and you'll surprise him.
MythicalMage
Profile Joined May 2010
1360 Posts
August 05 2010 09:48 GMT
#64
On August 05 2010 18:45 Apolo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 18:41 MythicalMage wrote:
On August 05 2010 18:34 Apolo wrote:
Does silver know what "ego" means? If Idra's ego collapsed he'd have to go to a mental institute with severe psychosis.

I agree with Idra on some points, he plays for a living, that's his job. His frustration is because he believes a random guy that doesn't put half the effort he has put on the game, comes from nowhere and beats him because of racial imbalance.

Silver unsconsciously admitted terran is better when he said the reasons why terran fit his style. Revert back the protoss nerfs, and you'd see protoss fit his style as well.

That's implying a hell of a lot. He just said that he liked the ability to surprise his opponent with Terran. You can do that with any race, but he liked Terrans options for creativity best.


Yes you can surprise your oponent with any race. Just rush all the workers to his base and you'll surprise him.

Any unit can be a surprise as can any tactic. Plus worker rushing is super standard. XP.
G2Wolf
Profile Joined July 2010
United States261 Posts
August 05 2010 09:49 GMT
#65
On August 05 2010 18:34 Apolo wrote:
Does silver know what "ego" means? If Idra's ego collapsed he'd have to go to a mental institute with severe psychosis.

Webster's
1 : the self especially as contrasted with another self or the world
2 a : egotism

He clearly wasn't using the psychological definition for 'ego' in the interview, and 'ego' does have multiple meanings

On August 05 2010 18:45 Apolo wrote:
Yes you can surprise your oponent with any race. Just rush all the workers to his base and you'll surprise him.

Think he meant "surprise him [and still be able to win]"

www.twitter.com/g2wolf
Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
August 05 2010 10:01 GMT
#66
if idra loses, its his fault.

don't argue that Z is too poor of a race. if so, then don't play Z. it's his choice to play Z, and thus he loses fair and square.
555, kthxbai
MythicalMage
Profile Joined May 2010
1360 Posts
August 05 2010 10:03 GMT
#67
On August 05 2010 19:01 Zalfor wrote:
if idra loses, its his fault.

don't argue that Z is too poor of a race. if so, then don't play Z. it's his choice to play Z, and thus he loses fair and square.

ESPECIALLY since he said he was switching to Terran if they didn't change the MU. Lo and behold, guess who's still Zerg?
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1171 Posts
August 05 2010 10:08 GMT
#68
one of the best interviews from foreigner i've read in ages!
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
divertiti
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada106 Posts
August 05 2010 10:32 GMT
#69
On August 05 2010 18:34 Apolo wrote:
Does silver know what "ego" means? If Idra's ego collapsed he'd have to go to a mental institute with severe psychosis.

I agree with Idra on some points, he plays for a living, that's his job. His frustration is because he believes a random guy that doesn't put half the effort he has put on the game, comes from nowhere and beats him because of racial imbalance.

Silver unsconsciously admitted terran is better when he said the reasons why terran fit his style. Revert back the protoss nerfs, and you'd see protoss fit his style as well.


No, FUCK NO. It doesn't matter what cry baby Idra believes. It's absolutely ridiculous for him to think just because he had chosen it as a career and practices all day that he should automatically have success over someone else. In every sport, every art, every endeavor, there are people who are just naturally more talented. They can achieve better results with far less effort than someone who is less talented but works a lot harder.

To blame his losses on anything but himself is just pathetic. If you wanna cry racial imbalance, then every protoss and terran that loses to Idra should also cry racial imbalance. Grow up.
Fodder03
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada142 Posts
August 05 2010 10:51 GMT
#70
I love Z, i think idra is talented.
I can understand rage quitting without a gg when you are frustrated.
But to belittle and name call and be a down right ass should be grounds for disqualification from a tournament.
I expect this behavior from 14 year olds on xbox live, but its not acceptable at the "professional" level if u ever want esports to be taken seriously.
Idra is good and i love watching him play, but the kid needs to grow up.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
August 05 2010 11:05 GMT
#71
really cool interview !:D
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
August 05 2010 11:11 GMT
#72
Im very impressed by this guy, less egoistic rage and more of this attitude please..
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
August 05 2010 11:15 GMT
#73
Silver comes across as a really cool guy — level headed, well-spoken and intelligent. Very good interview.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
August 05 2010 11:19 GMT
#74
Great to hear from this, up until now, unknown player! I was just thinking today that I wish I knew more about him.

And he's from Canada! Awesome!
KTY
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 11:22:54
August 05 2010 11:19 GMT
#75
On August 05 2010 16:12 Anfere wrote:
As for the game on metalopolis, Idra really didn't have anything, he committed so much into mutalisk even when the guy had like 4 thors, wich is pretty stupid. The basic roach/baneling force would of cleaned that push so easily instead of using all the resources to get muta's vs their perfect counter. I mean you can rage when you have the good unit composition and still loose, but when you have a totally idiotic unit mix that will loose 100% because it is facing it's direct counter, why insult the guy ?
Again GG Silver.


This is so truth..

To say something like - "Apologize for playing this race" or "I actually am really good" is just plain wrong. I wonder how can Idra play with Koreans with this attitude..
drunkensolo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany56 Posts
August 05 2010 11:49 GMT
#76
silver just dominated idra, because idra refused to adjust to silver's gameplan i think.
GG silver
Jenslyn87
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark527 Posts
August 05 2010 12:26 GMT
#77
While I do think Z has problems, Idra's personal attack was uncalled for in any way. As Silver himself says, he's just playing the game.

Still, I think Idra has a point in that he is hard pressed ín many situations as many Z are right now
Hmmm, I wonder what terran is doiAAAAARGH BANSHEEEEES
Pking
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden142 Posts
August 05 2010 12:29 GMT
#78
TvZ is unbalanced so it is OK for IdrA to call people fags and that their being awful etc. etc. Love the logic on that.
vonterribad
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia50 Posts
August 05 2010 12:34 GMT
#79
On August 05 2010 18:41 MythicalMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 18:34 Apolo wrote:
Does silver know what "ego" means? If Idra's ego collapsed he'd have to go to a mental institute with severe psychosis.

I agree with Idra on some points, he plays for a living, that's his job. His frustration is because he believes a random guy that doesn't put half the effort he has put on the game, comes from nowhere and beats him because of racial imbalance.

Silver unsconsciously admitted terran is better when he said the reasons why terran fit his style. Revert back the protoss nerfs, and you'd see protoss fit his style as well.

That's implying a hell of a lot. He just said that he liked the ability to surprise his opponent with Terran. You can do that with any race, but he liked Terrans options for creativity best.


I have respect for Silver, great to see new blood. I do however think his quote does quantify a lot of the complaints surfacing around T currently.

Personally all these 'unknowns' that are doing well by beating big names all play all Terran.
Crosswind
Profile Joined May 2010
United States279 Posts
August 05 2010 12:55 GMT
#80
I like the complaints about this dude's resume. He was tops of the WC3 1v1 ladder. That means he's really damn good at RTSes. Let's not all get super-surprised if he's good at Starcraft 2, as well.

-Cross
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