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National ESL: Get DETONATED - The Silver Interview - Page 11

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aznhockeyboy16
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States558 Posts
August 06 2010 10:11 GMT
#201
lol, I love nerdrage. it makes me happy to see it. every time I beat someone and they nerdrage, I feel like I should do the same strategy more. funny how that works.
Phisk
Profile Joined June 2010
166 Posts
August 06 2010 12:37 GMT
#202
Heh, he seems like a pretty interesting character, but maybe a bit pretentious. Pretty intellectual approach to the game, its going to be interesting to see how well it holds up as the meta game gets more developed and safer strats starts to evolve.
baconbits
Profile Joined April 2010
United States419 Posts
August 06 2010 12:56 GMT
#203
Its good to see some new players facing off against the names everyone knows. Shows the potential of SC2 to evolve. I don't know why people seem to be bashing either Idra or Silver. Creative play is always fun to watch, and it is good to keep the pros on edge. People are still discovering new strategies and timings.
Shrewmy
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia199 Posts
August 06 2010 19:15 GMT
#204
OMG GUYS.

Like, I lost against a few guys playing Terran, it's sooo OP guys. Who cares if they're the center-stage race of the single player campaign, or that it's the most accessible race for people to play. It's just soooo OP you guise. ;__;

Can people just accept that, like normal people, Idra can and will lose at times? It doesn't diminish the fact that he's still an amazing player. He suffers from a lack of originality, and perhaps a little bit of immaturity. I think he does need to grow up a little bit.

Silver is a talented player, he defeated other talented terran players as well, this implies that Silver did not win purely based on playing an overpowered race (how can you, in TvT anyway?).

If you, in any way, actually think Idra's manners during the second game are in any way justified I feel sorry for you, it was seriously the most immature and arrogant trash I've seen someone type out in quite a long time.

I'd expect behaviour like that on Xbox Live, but not here.
BillyMole
Profile Joined March 2010
United States118 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 21:33:28
August 06 2010 21:29 GMT
#205
The whining in this thread is a very good illustration of exactly what Silver talked about in his interview. All too often, high level players fall into the trap of feeling entitled, that they cannot and should not be beat by anyone they perceive as a nobody. And when it happens, it's because of an imbalance in the game, and not their fault.

Silver is calm, intelligent, gave great answers, and demonstrates a very good approach to the game. I applaud him for demonstrating that putting in more hours than the other guy is not necessarily going to win it for you.

To be clear, I'm not against long hours. If you practice more than your opponent, that is an advantage for you. It is easy to offset though. If your opponent's practice is more EFFECTIVE than yours, that's an advantage for him. Just look at TLO, who in interviews admitted that he does not usually have a lot of time to practice. Proper discipline, thinking, and approach is much more important than total time spent.

I'll also point out that IdrA has always been mechanically very strong, but light on adaptability. He tends to have a plan going into each game, and doesn't like to vary it if confronted with difficulty. It's fairly clear that in game 1 his plan was to FE and drone up as normal, roll with muta-ling pressure, bling bust the entrance, and roll over Silver. This has always been a terrible strategy against Terran, and I guarantee that he only chose it because it's the fastest way for him to wipe out this "nobody." He had the scouting and intel, and had plenty of time to transition into roach, which would have destroyed what is, after all, a simple hellion/thor push. He chose not to, and he paid for it. It's also abundantly clear that losing to a "nobody" put him on tilt, and he basically threw the second game away.
artanis2
Profile Joined April 2010
United States732 Posts
August 06 2010 23:01 GMT
#206
On August 05 2010 13:24 OHtRUe wrote:
No offense, but this proves that theres something wrong with the game. This guy shouldn't 2-0 IdrA with his gaming history and his whole philosophy of the game. I feel incredibly bad for IdrA for choosing zerg because if he played Terran i doubt he would lose a game.

CJ Entus PROGAMER who played pro level SC BW and plays 10 hours of SC2 gets 2-0'd by pretty much by a casual who references a confederate general for his SC play......


Errr what? Because IdrA plays a lot it means he should auto win over this guy? Did you even watch the replay? He's good. He's better than IdrA. 2-0 baby!
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
August 06 2010 23:03 GMT
#207
Very nice, I am surprised how he kinda knocked everyone out, Hope to see more of Silver's play in the future!!
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
dr.mayco
Profile Joined August 2010
United States23 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 06:10:42
August 08 2010 06:10 GMT
#208
RodrigoX
Profile Joined November 2009
United States645 Posts
August 08 2010 06:27 GMT
#209
This reminds me of Rekruls "Foreigners Still Suck" thread on the F91 vs Idra games
We were all raised on televion that made us believe we'd all be Millionairs, Movie gods, and Rockstars..... But we won't.... We are slowly learning that fact. And we are very, very pissed off.
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
August 08 2010 06:48 GMT
#210
Seems like a nice person
RandomBS
Profile Joined July 2010
United States130 Posts
August 08 2010 06:52 GMT
#211
just watched a replay where silver ragequitted after getting vortexed and steamrolled

http://www.sc2-replays.net/en/replays/303-kiwikaki-vs-silver,steppes-of-war


so much for zen eh
"an intelligent zerg will go 2 hatch, my build was designed to take advantage of that and so lost because he went 3 hatch. going 3 hatch is utterly retarded for the reasons i just explained so yes i did lose because he did something dumb." -idra
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
August 08 2010 06:55 GMT
#212
He is mellow but I can't see this guy ever hanging at top level.
Trust me Im no idra fan.
Still can't see it. Glad to be proven wrong though!!
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
torm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada274 Posts
August 08 2010 08:30 GMT
#213
I think its funny how many people live by these unwritten rules of starcraft. If someone wants to talk shit, thats his or her prerogative. All you can really do to stop it is to set tournament rules where all you are allowed to say is "gg" but that's not going to stop a player from trash talking at another point. It's hilarious that so many people feel like IdrA should be condemned or some stupid shit for his pottymouth. Grow up.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
August 08 2010 08:34 GMT
#214
On August 08 2010 17:30 torm wrote:
I think its funny how many people live by these unwritten rules of starcraft. If someone wants to talk shit, thats his or her prerogative. All you can really do to stop it is to set tournament rules where all you are allowed to say is "gg" but that's not going to stop a player from trash talking at another point. It's hilarious that so many people feel like IdrA should be condemned or some stupid shit for his pottymouth. Grow up.

Same reason Wayne Rooney never got any shit for all the crap he spouted early in his career? IdrA is allowed to, doesn't mean anyone has to agree with it.
CaptTerrible
Profile Joined July 2010
United States72 Posts
August 08 2010 08:35 GMT
#215
I read the interview, Silver seems like a good dude and his play style in game seems pretty solid. The idrA rage in game was uncalled for, but is something I fully expected from him. I hope that as time goes on we can see more of Silver's games and maybe a rematch against a more calm (hopefully) idrA.

On a side note, I hope that Zerg players start using things like Nydus more often. People are getting so caught up in what unit beats what that I see a lot of gamers simply forget about the bases and production buildings and it all ends up being a race to 200/200 supply.
Awesome
torm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada274 Posts
August 08 2010 08:39 GMT
#216
On August 08 2010 17:34 vyyye wrote:
Same reason Wayne Rooney never got any shit for all the crap he spouted early in his career? IdrA is allowed to, doesn't mean anyone has to agree with it.


I'm not arguing that people should stop disagreeing with what he says. I'm simply stating that people may want to steer away from stupid phrases such as "if u tink idra iz justified 2 say dat stuff den u r stuped", or "idra haz no rite 2 be sayin dat bm" or "idra iz not a profeshonal cuz he haz a dirty mouf". =)
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
August 08 2010 08:39 GMT
#217
On August 05 2010 13:24 OHtRUe wrote:
No offense, but this proves that theres something wrong with the game. This guy shouldn't 2-0 IdrA with his gaming history and his whole philosophy of the game. I feel incredibly bad for IdrA for choosing zerg because if he played Terran i doubt he would lose a game.

CJ Entus PROGAMER who played pro level SC BW and plays 10 hours of SC2 gets 2-0'd by pretty much by a casual who references a confederate general for his SC play......

So if the "most expensive" team in Basketball gets beaten by the team that is at the bottom of the league the game is broken, because statistics say it shouldnt happen and all the fanboys are disappointed?
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
SouthWales
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada27 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 09:22:05
August 08 2010 08:56 GMT
#218
Personally I don't think that silvers responses to the interview questions where very intelligent at all.

Firstly, he majorly disrespected Idra by boiling down his emotions into a simple sentence loosely based on psychology a field I'm sure he is not an expert in and therefore, it would be incredibly presumptuous for him comment on some on Idra (some one who he has never met in persons) emotional state.

Secondly, he clearly has a double standard which he is not addressing as during the game he also seemed to have "identified with his ego too closely" and insulted Idra back. It seems like Silver is also "identifying with his ego to closely", which is proven when he for no reason talks about how he freestyles with talented artists in his spare time and stresses how innovative and unique his play style is with his ability to remain at the top of the wc3 ladder with unconventional styles.

thirdly, his reason for playing Terran is to "mystify, mislead and surprise", which strikes me as a completely nonsensical statement. What on earth could that possibly mean, and what in the games that we have seen has he done to support this claim? He seemed to do a one base strategy in each game, not hide tech structures and attempt to surprise his opponent.


To me it seemed like he was just trying to sound as intelligent as possible in the interview by spewing obtuse non answers to every question and pretending like he is some form of star craft guru when really his claims are completely baseless due to his lack of top level gaming experience. I can completely understand why IdrA was annoyed with Silvers arrogant treatment of professional gaming.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
August 08 2010 08:56 GMT
#219
On August 08 2010 15:52 RandomBS wrote:
just watched a replay where silver ragequitted after getting vortexed and steamrolled

http://www.sc2-replays.net/en/replays/303-kiwikaki-vs-silver,steppes-of-war


so much for zen eh

this game is awesome haha
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
August 08 2010 08:58 GMT
#220
On August 08 2010 17:56 SouthWales wrote:
Personally I don't think that silvers responses to the interview questions where very intelligent at all.

Firstly, he majorly disrespected Idra by boiling down his emotions into a simple sentence loosely based on psychology a field I'm sure he is not an expert in and therefore should not even be commenting on.

That is "majorly disrespecting"? Then what the hell would you call IdrAs bm?
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