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fantomex
Profile Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
August 05 2010 19:49 GMT
#161
On August 06 2010 04:15 llortyag wrote:
Look at the interview is ridiculous !! he basically cheesed wc3 ladder with random but it doesn't work on pros because skill > cheese in wc3. Also lol at the wanna be zen master hahaha


Because mastering 4 races is so much easier than mastering 1.

Oh wait...

Too late to get a refund from Berkeley?
Replay or GTFO
llortyag
Profile Joined August 2010
United States64 Posts
August 05 2010 19:51 GMT
#162
On August 06 2010 04:47 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
llortyag: lolumad?

I dunno if you're an IdrA fanboy or something, but to rage all over this kid and tangential aspects like random degrees is a bit strange, especially considering the huge jump from "omg, a certain degree" to "you're a homeless bum!!!!!!!111." So let me get this straight, you're considering him untelligent based on an imaginary major/imaginary position that you're pretending that he has ("while this guy is prolly a history major" without a career and massive debt)?

rofl this kids mad.. You are looking way too deeply into things haha. People are saying he is smart with the same amount of evidence i have. and the bum part is what we call an analogy look it up
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PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
August 05 2010 19:52 GMT
#163
This conversation literally happens every time Idra drops a match to an "inferior" opponent

I remember people bashing NONY after TSL because he wasn't as dedicated a pro, so he shouldn't have won.

llortyag
Profile Joined August 2010
United States64 Posts
August 05 2010 19:52 GMT
#164
On August 06 2010 04:49 fantomex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 04:15 llortyag wrote:
Look at the interview is ridiculous !! he basically cheesed wc3 ladder with random but it doesn't work on pros because skill > cheese in wc3. Also lol at the wanna be zen master hahaha


Because mastering 4 races is so much easier than mastering 1.

Oh wait...

Too late to get a refund from Berkeley?

If you cheese you aren't mastering the race. yup my degree is useless, except that starting offers are around 70k+

try again
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
August 05 2010 19:54 GMT
#165
On August 06 2010 04:51 llortyag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 04:47 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
llortyag: lolumad?

I dunno if you're an IdrA fanboy or something, but to rage all over this kid and tangential aspects like random degrees is a bit strange, especially considering the huge jump from "omg, a certain degree" to "you're a homeless bum!!!!!!!111." So let me get this straight, you're considering him untelligent based on an imaginary major/imaginary position that you're pretending that he has ("while this guy is prolly a history major" without a career and massive debt)?

rofl this kids mad.. You are looking way too deeply into things haha. People are saying he is smart with the same amount of evidence i have. and the bum part is what we call an analogy look it up


If that was the best analogy you could come up with, I seriously doubt you have a major in anything.
llortyag
Profile Joined August 2010
United States64 Posts
August 05 2010 19:56 GMT
#166
On August 06 2010 04:54 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 04:51 llortyag wrote:
On August 06 2010 04:47 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
llortyag: lolumad?

I dunno if you're an IdrA fanboy or something, but to rage all over this kid and tangential aspects like random degrees is a bit strange, especially considering the huge jump from "omg, a certain degree" to "you're a homeless bum!!!!!!!111." So let me get this straight, you're considering him untelligent based on an imaginary major/imaginary position that you're pretending that he has ("while this guy is prolly a history major" without a career and massive debt)?

rofl this kids mad.. You are looking way too deeply into things haha. People are saying he is smart with the same amount of evidence i have. and the bum part is what we call an analogy look it up


If that was the best analogy you could come up with, I seriously doubt you have a major in anything.

that was my best sorry to disappoint next time i will try to impress random internet posters sorry for my laziness.
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LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
August 05 2010 20:03 GMT
#167
On August 06 2010 04:51 llortyag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 04:47 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
llortyag: lolumad?

I dunno if you're an IdrA fanboy or something, but to rage all over this kid and tangential aspects like random degrees is a bit strange, especially considering the huge jump from "omg, a certain degree" to "you're a homeless bum!!!!!!!111." So let me get this straight, you're considering him untelligent based on an imaginary major/imaginary position that you're pretending that he has ("while this guy is prolly a history major" without a career and massive debt)?

rofl this kids mad.. You are looking way too deeply into things haha. People are saying he is smart with the same amount of evidence i have. and the bum part is what we call an analogy look it up


Apparently me disagreeing with you = me mad (nice copy of my post btw). Gee, must be a tonna angry people in this thread then .

As for the analogy, it's pretty obvious that I'm kinda questioning this odd little attitude behind it, not the literal statement; I might as well copy and paste the previous post which was conveniently ignored:

So let me get this straight, you're considering him untelligent based on an imaginary major/imaginary position that you're pretending that he has ("while this guy is prolly a history major without a career and massive debt")?
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
llortyag
Profile Joined August 2010
United States64 Posts
August 05 2010 20:11 GMT
#168
On August 06 2010 05:03 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 04:51 llortyag wrote:
On August 06 2010 04:47 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
llortyag: lolumad?

I dunno if you're an IdrA fanboy or something, but to rage all over this kid and tangential aspects like random degrees is a bit strange, especially considering the huge jump from "omg, a certain degree" to "you're a homeless bum!!!!!!!111." So let me get this straight, you're considering him untelligent based on an imaginary major/imaginary position that you're pretending that he has ("while this guy is prolly a history major" without a career and massive debt)?

rofl this kids mad.. You are looking way too deeply into things haha. People are saying he is smart with the same amount of evidence i have. and the bum part is what we call an analogy look it up


Apparently me disagreeing with you = me mad (nice copy of my post btw). Gee, must be a tonna angry people in this thread then .

As for the analogy, it's pretty obvious that I'm kinda questioning this odd little attitude behind it, not the literal statement; I might as well copy and paste the previous post which was conveniently ignored:

Show nested quote +
So let me get this straight, you're considering him untelligent based on an imaginary major/imaginary position that you're pretending that he has ("while this guy is prolly a history major without a career and massive debt")?


Sorry Mr racist name, I just assumed u read my previous post so i dont have to repeat everything 5 million times but because you so persistent ill take to the time to paste it


"fine i'll rephrase it baby.

Silver is not smart, nor do any of his actions reflect that he is."

everyone was saying he was smart because of his interview. I took the same facts and used to prove he was stupid and yet everyone complains about that? I did the same with calling you mad because apparently you can infer the same thing from the same situation. But then again you aren't very logical esp when you say things like 'you must be an idra fanboy' thinking that has anything to do with the validity of my ideas
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Deadlift
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States358 Posts
August 05 2010 20:17 GMT
#169
On August 06 2010 04:52 llortyag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 04:49 fantomex wrote:
On August 06 2010 04:15 llortyag wrote:
Look at the interview is ridiculous !! he basically cheesed wc3 ladder with random but it doesn't work on pros because skill > cheese in wc3. Also lol at the wanna be zen master hahaha


Because mastering 4 races is so much easier than mastering 1.

Oh wait...

Too late to get a refund from Berkeley?

If you cheese you aren't mastering the race. yup my degree is useless, except that starting offers are around 70k+

try again


Just out of curiosity, what profession are you talking about? Most math majors don't make that much money.
llortyag
Profile Joined August 2010
United States64 Posts
August 05 2010 20:25 GMT
#170
On August 06 2010 05:17 Kishime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 04:52 llortyag wrote:
On August 06 2010 04:49 fantomex wrote:
On August 06 2010 04:15 llortyag wrote:
Look at the interview is ridiculous !! he basically cheesed wc3 ladder with random but it doesn't work on pros because skill > cheese in wc3. Also lol at the wanna be zen master hahaha


Because mastering 4 races is so much easier than mastering 1.

Oh wait...

Too late to get a refund from Berkeley?

If you cheese you aren't mastering the race. yup my degree is useless, except that starting offers are around 70k+

try again


Just out of curiosity, what profession are you talking about? Most math majors don't make that much money.

I guess ill help a fellow TL member out before i am banned . Well mathematics is a wide fields and which classes you take matter as much as which major you choose. Also UC Berkeley is the top public in the US ( maybe even world i dunno), so we are the most in demand( bragging is fun). The final thing is location. the university is located perfect in california where major companies like Google run and they directly interact with the students here and thus value them higher and are willing to pay them more. I applied to Google but i didn't get in because the competition is fierce, but i work for cisco systems along with some of my graduating class and many make six figures, while i myself make around 80k with 2 years experience. Obviously you have to think about these factors before choosing a school, and you can graduate with a great paying job and without debt (Something Silver didn't think of)
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LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
August 05 2010 20:25 GMT
#171
Hahaha, nah, I'm not inferring that you're mad because of the side you're taking regarding Silver, anyone that's read my posts can see I'm not caring one way or another if he's smart or not, but it's pretty clear that you are mad (attempted insults like "Mr racist name"? lol, what is that supposed to mean anyways?).

Oh, and I actually know what I'm reading. For ex:

But then again you aren't very logical esp when you say things like 'you must be an idra fanboy'


Which is funny, because my actual post that you yourself quoted pretty much didn't say that at all:

I dunno if you're an IdrA fanboy or something


See, I'm not silly enough to frame opinions pulled out of the air as fact, you know, like weird assumptions like ones thinking that people who major in history are in huge debt. Oh, and don't try to pin this on "zomganalogy" because that part isn't the analogy, lol.

I don't care if you're going to copy and paste non-responsive stuff, so once again time for more copy pasta:

"it's pretty obvious that I'm kinda questioning this odd little attitude behind it, not the literal statement"

Hence, the "lolumad" vibe that your posts are begging for there dawg.
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
MICHELLE
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)199 Posts
August 05 2010 20:32 GMT
#172
On August 05 2010 13:24 OHtRUe wrote:
No offense, but this proves that theres something wrong with the game. This guy shouldn't 2-0 IdrA with his gaming history and his whole philosophy of the game. I feel incredibly bad for IdrA for choosing zerg because if he played Terran i doubt he would lose a game.

CJ Entus PROGAMER who played pro level SC BW and plays 10 hours of SC2 gets 2-0'd by pretty much by a casual who references a confederate general for his SC play......


That,
idrA should be nomatching these kinds of casual, this is completely retarded
Artosis, he's like that moss that grows on a tree that lets you know where the sun is
oursblanc
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1450 Posts
August 05 2010 20:32 GMT
#173
Nice interview, thanks. Silver sounds like a very collected player.
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Parodoxx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States549 Posts
August 05 2010 20:35 GMT
#174
Great read and I dont think game experince alone accounts for in game skill, careful planning and execution could of given silver the one up over Idra.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
August 05 2010 20:36 GMT
#175
idra is pathetic
I hope he does that shit again in the Gom TV league and gets disqualified.
He really thinks he deserves to win?
IAmTheWater
Profile Joined May 2010
United States21 Posts
August 05 2010 20:37 GMT
#176
I love the irony here.

llortyag making these bogus claims regarding Silvers intelligence on this thread, while making himself look like a complete moron... (But of course he is completely oblivious to this)

Are we talking about the game or about everyone's life story? It's common for a college student to have debt, and debt does not equate to a lack of intelligence. To be making ANY assumptions about anyone with such little information is absurd to me. Maybe Silver is a genius, maybe he is not...

It doesn't really matter.

The only point here is that he played some great games (that is my opinion anyway, some will disagree) vs some great players, and because of his previous gaming experience, the time he spent practicing and studying replays and youtube videos, he was able to beat them. Maybe this is his 15 minutes of fame, or maybe he himself will be another one of these great names. We'll see!

And honestly llortyag, what sort of decent human being would go onto a forum like this and start bringing up their degree's and income? As if it has any sort of relevance to... STARCRAFT 2. It does not. Grow up please? This forum is filled people people who are far more intelligent than you and make and will always make more money than you, but they have the decency to keep such irrelevant information out of these threads.
Why isn't there a "random" option regarding my icons race? :/
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
August 05 2010 20:38 GMT
#177
On August 06 2010 05:32 MICHELLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 13:24 OHtRUe wrote:
No offense, but this proves that theres something wrong with the game. This guy shouldn't 2-0 IdrA with his gaming history and his whole philosophy of the game. I feel incredibly bad for IdrA for choosing zerg because if he played Terran i doubt he would lose a game.

CJ Entus PROGAMER who played pro level SC BW and plays 10 hours of SC2 gets 2-0'd by pretty much by a casual who references a confederate general for his SC play......


That,
idrA should be nomatching these kinds of casual, this is completely retarded

Why

Literally everyone knows Idra gets frustrated when he loses to unknowns, and then plays worse because of it.
NoNoNoNoNyoron
Profile Joined April 2010
United States78 Posts
August 05 2010 20:40 GMT
#178
On August 06 2010 05:25 llortyag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 05:17 Kishime wrote:
On August 06 2010 04:52 llortyag wrote:
On August 06 2010 04:49 fantomex wrote:
On August 06 2010 04:15 llortyag wrote:
Look at the interview is ridiculous !! he basically cheesed wc3 ladder with random but it doesn't work on pros because skill > cheese in wc3. Also lol at the wanna be zen master hahaha


Because mastering 4 races is so much easier than mastering 1.

Oh wait...

Too late to get a refund from Berkeley?

If you cheese you aren't mastering the race. yup my degree is useless, except that starting offers are around 70k+

try again


Just out of curiosity, what profession are you talking about? Most math majors don't make that much money.

I guess ill help a fellow TL member out before i am banned . Well mathematics is a wide fields and which classes you take matter as much as which major you choose. Also UC Berkeley is the top public in the US ( maybe even world i dunno), so we are the most in demand( bragging is fun). The final thing is location. the university is located perfect in california where major companies like Google run and they directly interact with the students here and thus value them higher and are willing to pay them more. I applied to Google but i didn't get in because the competition is fierce, but i work for cisco systems along with some of my graduating class and many make six figures, while i myself make around 80k with 2 years experience. Obviously you have to think about these factors before choosing a school, and you can graduate with a great paying job and without debt (Something Silver didn't think of)



How interesting for I have graduated from Harvard recently and am currently making 140k a year off of 2 years of experience. Except I'm not, because this is the internet. This is not a bragging thread and you are not contributing to the discussion.


Day9 recently covered Silver's match against HuK and explained his methods and decision making. He his a legitimate thinker, and is not one to discount as unintelligent because of how single-track ZvT mech is.

Neomu banjjak banjjak nooni booshuh
Kishkumen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States650 Posts
August 05 2010 20:49 GMT
#179
I thought his games against IdrA really showed just how terrible the current mappool is. Metalopolis is normally a good map for zerg, but when you get close spawn positions it really destroys the advantages of the map for zerg. The wide open natural is just too hard to defend for a fe zerg in close positions. The other map, which I'm assuming IdrA picked, was lost temple. Lost Temple could be a good map, except it has that terrible cliff behind your natural that is just begging Terrans to put tanks or vikings on it. A zerg player needs to have a defendable natural or they're way behind the other races. The current mappool just doesn't give zerg players enough of those. I think once new maps get made that allow a zerg player to expand without getting crushed in the early game we'll see players like IdrA win more of the games they should win.
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llortyag
Profile Joined August 2010
United States64 Posts
August 05 2010 20:51 GMT
#180
On August 06 2010 05:25 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Hahaha, nah, I'm not inferring that you're mad because of the side you're taking regarding Silver, anyone that's read my posts can see I'm not caring one way or another if he's smart or not, but it's pretty clear that you are mad (attempted insults like "Mr racist name"? lol, what is that supposed to mean anyways?).

Oh, and I actually know what I'm reading. For ex:

Show nested quote +
But then again you aren't very logical esp when you say things like 'you must be an idra fanboy'


Which is funny, because my actual post that you yourself quoted pretty much didn't say that at all:

Show nested quote +
I dunno if you're an IdrA fanboy or something


See, I'm not silly enough to frame opinions pulled out of the air as fact, you know, like weird assumptions like ones thinking that people who major in history are in huge debt. Oh, and don't try to pin this on "zomganalogy" because that part isn't the analogy, lol.

I don't care if you're going to copy and paste non-responsive stuff, so once again time for more copy pasta:

"it's pretty obvious that I'm kinda questioning this odd little attitude behind it, not the literal statement"

Hence, the "lolumad" vibe that your posts are begging for there dawg.

sighh explaining myself isn't very fun... but i don't wanna let you get the last word in. So you think i am mad because i call some kid stupid?
, but to rage all over this kid and tangential aspects like random degrees is a bit strange, especially considering the huge jump from "omg, a certain degree" to "you're a homeless bum!!!!!!!111.

My motivation was to imitate these people for the opposite side and prove their fallacious reasoning by having them prove mine, because its amusing( because you know... i used theirs/yours) *strokes beard*. Sorry to disappoint, but you were obviously disturbed enough by it to post which i was like *therefore this person is mad* which is obviously untrue. and btw your name does racist to me which makes you sound like a troll.

and damn you love to tangle things up... I called you out on calling me a fanboy because you said it was the reason for my raging. I stated "People are saying he is smart with the same amount of evidence i have" to show my motivation for posting and not rage... the next part is already answered. FINALLY you say my posts have a lolumad tone to it "Hence, the "lolumad" vibe that your posts are begging for there dawg." i am not exactly sure what it says 'dawg'
but i saw my posts as sarcastic but w.e if you interpreted my posts like that idc
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