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On August 08 2010 17:58 vyyye wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 08 2010 17:56 SouthWales wrote:
Personally I don't think that silvers responses to the interview questions where very intelligent at all.
Firstly, he majorly disrespected Idra by boiling down his emotions into a simple sentence loosely based on psychology a field I'm sure he is not an expert in and therefore should not even be commenting on. That is "majorly disrespecting"? Then what the hell would you call IdrAs bm?
Majorly entertaining.
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You can't base balance off one match up... Idra didn't seem to have a problem with qxc in kotb. but sense Idra lost to silver that makes the game imbalanced?
Probs to Silver and his success! I'm looking to see more games from you.
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On August 08 2010 17:56 SouthWales wrote:
Personally I don't think that silvers responses to the interview questions where very intelligent at all.
Firstly, he majorly disrespected Idra by boiling down his emotions into a simple sentence loosely based on psychology a field I'm sure he is not an expert in and therefore, it would be incredibly presumptuous for him comment on some on Idra (some one who he has never met in persons) emotional state.
Secondly, he clearly has a double standard which he is not addressing as during the game he also seemed to have "identified with his ego too closely" and insulted Idra back. It seems like Silver is also "identifying with his ego to closely", which is proven when he for no reason talks about how he freestyles with talented artists in his spare time and stresses how innovative and unique his play style is with his ability to remain at the top of the wc3 ladder with unconventional styles.
thirdly, his reason for playing Terran is to "mystify, mislead and surprise", which strikes me as a completely nonsensical statement. What on earth could that possibly mean, and what in the games that we have seen has he done to support this claim? He seemed to do a one base strategy in each game, not hide tech structures and attempt to surprise his opponent.
To me it seemed like he was just trying to sound as intelligent as possible in the interview by spewing obtuse non answers to every question and pretending like he is some form of star craft guru when really his claims are completely baseless due to his lack of top level gaming experience. I can completely understand why IdrA was annoyed with Silvers arrogant treatment of professional gaming.
Idra, is that you?
On August 08 2010 17:58 vyyye wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2010 17:56 SouthWales wrote:
Personally I don't think that silvers responses to the interview questions where very intelligent at all.
Firstly, he majorly disrespected Idra by boiling down his emotions into a simple sentence loosely based on psychology a field I'm sure he is not an expert in and therefore should not even be commenting on. That is "majorly disrespecting"? Then what the hell would you call IdrAs bm?
Yeah I'd also like this answered. His post reeks of irony.
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On August 08 2010 17:56 SouthWales wrote:
Personally I don't think that silvers responses to the interview questions where very intelligent at all.
Firstly, he majorly disrespected Idra by boiling down his emotions into a simple sentence loosely based on psychology a field I'm sure he is not an expert in and therefore, it would be incredibly presumptuous for him comment on some on Idra (some one who he has never met in persons) emotional state.
Secondly, he clearly has a double standard which he is not addressing as during the game he also seemed to have "identified with his ego too closely" and insulted Idra back. It seems like Silver is also "identifying with his ego to closely", which is proven when he for no reason talks about how he freestyles with talented artists in his spare time and stresses how innovative and unique his play style is with his ability to remain at the top of the wc3 ladder with unconventional styles.
thirdly, his reason for playing Terran is to "mystify, mislead and surprise", which strikes me as a completely nonsensical statement. What on earth could that possibly mean, and what in the games that we have seen has he done to support this claim? He seemed to do a one base strategy in each game, not hide tech structures and attempt to surprise his opponent.
To me it seemed like he was just trying to sound as intelligent as possible in the interview by spewing obtuse non answers to every question and pretending like he is some form of star craft guru when really his claims are completely baseless due to his lack of top level gaming experience. I can completely understand why IdrA was annoyed with Silvers arrogant treatment of professional gaming.
That is so Idra! "some one who he has never met in persons" how the fuck would you know that? also the fact that you have only 1 post. stop hiding behind the internet and come out like a man!
EDIT: Also his account was created today.
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On August 05 2010 13:24 OHtRUe wrote:
No offense, but this proves that theres something wrong with the game. This guy shouldn't 2-0 IdrA with his gaming history and his whole philosophy of the game. I feel incredibly bad for IdrA for choosing zerg because if he played Terran i doubt he would lose a game.
CJ Entus PROGAMER who played pro level SC BW and plays 10 hours of SC2 gets 2-0'd by pretty much by a casual who references a confederate general for his SC play......
wow, hearing this is sort of upsetting. you seem to have some issues with entitlement. Just because you play a game 10 hours a day for years of your life doesn't make you the best in the world. you should read the interview with silver. Silver seems to see IdrA as predictable and took the risk to adopt strategies to counter what he thought idra was doing.
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On August 08 2010 17:30 torm wrote:
I think its funny how many people live by these unwritten rules of starcraft. If someone wants to talk shit, thats his or her prerogative. All you can really do to stop it is to set tournament rules where all you are allowed to say is "gg" but that's not going to stop a player from trash talking at another point. It's hilarious that so many people feel like IdrA should be condemned or some stupid shit for his pottymouth. Grow up.
Should he be punished? Nah
Do I have to respect him? No
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On August 05 2010 18:34 Apolo wrote:
I agree with Idra on some points, he plays for a living, that's his job. His frustration is because he believes a random guy that doesn't put half the effort he has put on the game, comes from nowhere and beats him because of racial imbalance.
perhaps idra should focus less on crying and more on dealing with this sort of situation. I think it was stated earlier in this thread that it wasnt the first time idra has had to deal with a mech build...
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I tried to read this whole thread without facepalming a bit. Regardless if you think ZvT is imbalanced, the issues being raised are about respect--especially in a tourney environment. Is it not frustrating when the Yankees can pay their way to another pennant? Is it not frustrating when your football team isn't used to playing in the snow? Of course it is. And, is it not frustrating for Zergs in high level play?
That isn't the point. The point is respect. Sure, Silver may have made some assumptions as to why Idra "rages", but they were far less presumptuous (and far more respectful) than any of the comments idra made towards him.
Imagine, if you will, SC2 kicks off as a decent eSport -- with sponsors, etc. Now, imagine if these games were on something like G4TV or ESPN2. I seriously doubt people would think highly of players cursing and insulting each other. Sports franchises even fine players for bad conduct/BM outside of games.
Anything about ZvT balance, idra's skill, silver's skill, or anything else are completely different issues. These have nothing to do with the way a player treats another player, and it is completely illogical to fuse these issues. Empathy for idra's position is one thing and certainly don't harp on his "raging". Nonetheless, to excuse that level of BM is detrimental to eSports as a whole.
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On August 05 2010 14:43 lindn wrote:
i met silver once.
but that was on eu servers and he was fucking horrible and of course since it's eu he was a protoss :<
That's strange, I'm pretty sure he said in his interview that he didn't have any other region accounts...
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On August 05 2010 14:01 iEchoic wrote:
Uh, have you watched sports? Sports stars almost always act professional after games. Go head to NBA.com and watch some of the post-season press interviews. You always hear "the other team played well, we didn't execute down the stretch", etc etc.
Sportsmanship?
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lol'd.
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On August 10 2010 05:35 Cranberries wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 14:01 iEchoic wrote:
Uh, have you watched sports? Sports stars almost always act professional after games. Go head to NBA.com and watch some of the post-season press interviews. You always hear "the other team played well, we didn't execute down the stretch", etc etc. Sportsmanship? lol'd.
Made my day complete in so many ways
Great interview though!
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