EPTAnd yes man, I also play zerg, and I also don't like the match up vs terran at the moment but that doesn't mean that if a player beats so many top names he doesn't deserve to be recognized just because of his race.
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Jimmy Raynor
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And yes man, I also play zerg, and I also don't like the match up vs terran at the moment but that doesn't mean that if a player beats so many top names he doesn't deserve to be recognized just because of his race. | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On August 05 2010 14:42 OHtRUe wrote: It's not an excuse if it has a valid point supporting it by the way. To properly phrase what you said would more be like " lots of people would just rather work with what they have and fight an uphill battle" If i posted constructive criticism I would most likely get flamed for being Zerg biased or that because Blizzard is a game designer they have more knowledge in balance suggestions and gameplay then me (which is BS by the way) I could post a masterpiece about game balance and why zerg is underpowered, but then again why would it be worth it if people are just going to just dismiss it because again SC2 is perfect~ Being relatively new to Teamliquid I was often times impressed with the forum quality, but every now and again I have to scratch my head. Honestly, to me it looks like you're trying to create a flame war if anything. By your logic no one can post constructive criticism as it will get dismissed due to racial (not IRL racial) bias. How does IdrA have the right to be insult Silver while Silver remained sensible throughout the whole ordeal? Let's assume ZvT is 100% unbalanced, is that Silvers fault? It's actually possible for great players to lose without the game being insanely broken, everybody's a "nobody" at first and Silver prove again and again that he should be recognized more. IdrA is not the be all end all of Starcraft 2, whether you want to believe it or not. He is one of (if not the) best players in the game, but ultimately he's not a game designer and he gets riled up far too easily. In any case, IdrA could give feedback to Blizzard about why ZvT is unbalanced (which he did do afterwards), I believe that'll be a bit more helpful than namecalling. Anyway, back to Silvers interview. I was extremely impressed by his efforts during the tournament, really interesting interview. Gives a better picture of who Silver is, will definitely be loking for more of his games. If anything he also proves (along with a few other great players) that you don't need extensive experience in SC:BW to compete in SC2. | ||
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Defeat
United States476 Posts
On August 05 2010 13:56 OHtRUe wrote: I guess IdrA isnt used to all in 2 base pushes and cliff drops. Sc2 is 5 months old with 10 years of broodwar experiance. This guy plays 10 hours a day you dont think he doesn't know how to fend off these things off? There is a distinct possibillity that GASPPPP there is no reasonable counter.... Since you know so much about IdrA you should also know that he has a knack for not taking early aggression that well and is more of a late game macro player right? This coupled with what I said earlier, which you seemed to ignore, about Silver really being known so IdrA probably has no idea how he plays seems to make sense. | ||
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Lazix
Australia378 Posts
Nevermind. | ||
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Parsistamon
United States390 Posts
"At first I was nervous when competing against names I recognized from streams and youtube commentaries I had watched, but after some meditation and visualization I found my center" "I calmed myself because I find that embracing the mania that follows winning can lead to an unfocused mind and entitlement mentality, which is detrimental to continuous improvement." "We had a beer and then did some freestyles" Zen-master/freestyler SC2 upstart? Sounds good to me  | ||
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Anfere
Canada231 Posts
The best example of play is Dimaga who always delay his expansion and takes directly the gold after some early harass. As for the game on metalopolis, Idra really didn't have anything, he committed so much into mutalisk even when the guy had like 4 thors, wich is pretty stupid. The basic roach/baneling force would of cleaned that push so easily instead of using all the resources to get muta's vs their perfect counter. I mean you can rage when you have the good unit composition and still loose, but when you have a totally idiotic unit mix that will loose 100% because it is facing it's direct counter, why insult the guy ? Well he raged but in the end, he played really poorly and lost not to Terrans being imbalance, but to himself being a total ass not managing his temper and stubbornness, plus some poor decision making under pressure. Again GG Silver. | ||
GTR
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zzzzsleepyhead
United States103 Posts
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MythicalMage
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mcneebs
Canada391 Posts
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MythicalMage
1360 Posts
On August 05 2010 16:03 Lazix wrote: wow this silver guy seems really talented, and the fact he 2-0 idra and... oh wait, he plays Terran? Nevermind. He also beat HuK and qxc. | ||
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Endorsed
Netherlands1221 Posts
On August 05 2010 13:24 OHtRUe wrote: No offense, but this proves that theres something wrong with the game. This guy shouldn't 2-0 IdrA with his gaming history and his whole philosophy of the game. I feel incredibly bad for IdrA for choosing zerg because if he played Terran i doubt he would lose a game. CJ Entus PROGAMER who played pro level SC BW and plays 10 hours of SC2 gets 2-0'd by pretty much by a casual who references a confederate general for his SC play...... How does this prove there is something wrong with Terran? Because Idra got outplayed by a ''nobody''? This guy is definitely talented. You don't beat Huk, Qxc and Idra in the same tournament just by luck. Idra is just a sad little person who play's this game 24/7 and ofcourse gets frustrated when he gets beat by a nobody. | ||
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WhiteComet
United States51 Posts
Terrans OP? I used to have that mindset when I first started SC2. But I kept practicing to overcome each obstacles i met. How to deal with marauders, Ghosts, Siege lines..etc. Some of you guys worship Idra as if he is some God. With a bit of endurance and the right attitude I believe that everyone can be just as good as him (and which I'm working on to get better as well). Foundation? learn it. Strategy? Study it. APM? practice it But with the "tilted" attitude, You won't be able to beat someone who can accept losses, learn from their mistakes and progress as a better player. | ||
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crappen
Norway1546 Posts
Can we please accept that IdrA rages and speak his mind? If Silver takes IdrA's talk serious, he is the one having the problem. I am sure however, that Silver is too wise to take the "attack" (which we all know is not an attack, but a human defense mechanism from IdrA) personally. Let people rage, and lets stop being polite and instead not take the emotions the other player omit as an attack on you. | ||
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Endbringer
United States111 Posts
As for Terran being OP, jesus get off your high horses. If its so OP why don't all of you switch races? Whining in TL threads accomplishes nothing, and blizzard does not care about your balance suggestions. They will balance the game as they see fit, if you think its so bad don't play. In WC3 many Undeads thought Orc vs. Undead was horribly imbalanced. So when the best Undead (Lucifer) player had a big match against an Orc, he race switched to Orc as well. Until I start seeing pro's change race rather than play a certain matchup I am not impressed by their, or your, whining. Didn't Idra just win some large tourny at the end of the beta? I guess all the Terrans stayed home? | ||
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Arnu
Canada96 Posts
Great interview. | ||
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shawabawa
United Kingdom417 Posts
On August 05 2010 17:40 crappen wrote: Clarification: Being polite is the same as not showing emotions. Can we please accept that IdrA rages and speak his mind? If Silver takes IdrA's talk serious, he is the one having the problem. I am sure however, that Silver is too wise to take the "attack" (which we all know is not an attack, but a human defense mechanism from IdrA) personally. Let people rage, and lets stop being polite and instead not take the emotions the other player omit as an attack on you. What IdrA did was just plain rude, and should not be tolerated. You should not be able to insult your opponent and get away with it just because "oh he's IdrA he rages everyone knows that", it's bullshit. | ||
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G2Wolf
United States261 Posts
On August 05 2010 16:47 MythicalMage wrote: Just the way he talks is awesome. That wasn't translated or anything was it? The interview was not translated or modified in any way. That's really how he talks. | ||
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Genovi
Sweden388 Posts
On August 05 2010 13:46 iEchoic wrote: And he's still not a professional. Being a professional means acting like a professional. If you don't act like a professional, you're not one. This applies to every field in life, even fields where you can hide yourself behind a computer. As time goes on, new talent is going to emerge. It's funny to see people upset when new players play well. Props to Silver. You don't have to act as a proffessional to be one. That is dumb. | ||
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Apolo
Portugal1259 Posts
I agree with Idra on some points, he plays for a living, that's his job. His frustration is because he believes a random guy that doesn't put half the effort he has put on the game, comes from nowhere and beats him because of racial imbalance. Silver unsconsciously admitted terran is better when he said the reasons why terran fit his style. Revert back the protoss nerfs, and you'd see protoss fit his style as well. | ||
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