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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
On December 13 2012 09:34 TimENT wrote: Seriously...all these Zerg players in this thread calling widow mines "good" especially vs mutas. Do you watch or play any HotS? Widow mines are terrrrrrible at the moment. Because widow mines need to take less supply, do less damages, and not hit air. And then, it will be a good unit. | ||
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MidgetHumper
United Kingdom280 Posts
On December 13 2012 09:34 TimENT wrote: Seriously...all these Zerg players in this thread calling widow mines "good" especially vs mutas. Do you watch or play any HotS? Widow mines are terrrrrrible at the moment. I play random at masters level in HotS and widow mines are extreamly good! Maybe you are forgetting to burrow them? QQ | ||
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Nuclease
United States1049 Posts
And then just run in and out of my base, taunting me. Oh, God. THE HORROR. | ||
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ch4ppi
Germany802 Posts
On December 13 2012 09:34 TimENT wrote: Seriously...all these Zerg players in this thread calling widow mines "good" especially vs mutas. Do you watch or play any HotS? Widow mines are terrrrrrible at the moment. You make no point... Widow mines are not where they should be, but that doesnt mean they kill all Muta and Dropplay against terran by making it a lottery if u might run over one by chance | ||
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Qntc.YuMe
United States792 Posts
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blacksheepwall
China1530 Posts
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TimENT
United States1425 Posts
On December 13 2012 09:35 Insoleet wrote: Because widow mines need to take less supply, do less damages, and not hit air. And then, it will be a good unit. Well, I basically agree with everything here. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
DT change was deserved and the mech changes seem a good compromise, it stops the possibility of a sudden tech switch and leads to having to invest more heavily in whichever path you take. | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On December 13 2012 09:35 Insoleet wrote: Because widow mines need to take less supply, do less damages, and not hit air. And then, it will be a good unit. penixes, oracles, mscore, tempests, carriers, mutas, vipers ... all the 'cool' new stuff in hots flies. If WM's can't hit flying unit, then I don't see their point. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On December 13 2012 09:34 TimENT wrote: Seriously...all these Zerg players in this thread calling widow mines "good" especially vs mutas. Do you watch or play any HotS? Widow mines are terrrrrrible at the moment. Seriously your post makes me wonder if you play hots. If you know how to burrow widows and you know your opponent is going mutalisk you would know how good they are vs mutas. They should not be able to hit air and be buffed elsewhere to compensate. On December 13 2012 09:42 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: penixes, oracles, mscore, tempests, carriers, mutas, vipers ... all the 'cool' new stuff in hots flies. If WM's can't hit flying unit, then I don't see their point. Huh? Widows are good vs the ground composition or should be, not both. It's not like all races are all of a sudden going only air, so if widows couldn't hit air and were stronger vs ground they would be good as every race still has to have ground units. | ||
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knOxStarcraft
Canada422 Posts
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Breach_hu
Hungary2431 Posts
On December 13 2012 09:44 blade55555 wrote: Seriously your post makes me wonder if you play hots. If you know how to burrow widows and you know your opponent is going mutalisk you would know how good they are vs mutas. They should not be able to hit air and be buffed elsewhere to compensate. Mutas are being in a different role in TvZ right now, they are maintaining mapcontrol and can fight off drops with speed and with +HP regen they will fulfill this role even better. This is their first role. Their secondary role is to raid worker lines, which got harder. think about this before you cry QQ on mines, they are good early game, but they are just a waste of supply in the lategame againts any decent longrange composition of P or Z. | ||
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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
And a 1 supply mine would be better to deal with chargelots and toss in general when going mech, obviously. | ||
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
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SuperYo1000
United States880 Posts
On December 13 2012 09:34 Twilight Sparkle wrote: I'm a little worried about this tempest change. It affects their damage vs. broodlords, battlecruisers, carriers and other tempests, and while I'm fine with them countering the first three, I'm a bit worried that the best counter to tempests in PvP is going to be making your own tempests, in which case we just get current WoL PvP except with mass tempests rather than mass colossi. Though that could be total bullshit, I haven't played enough HotS PvP to know whether this is actually a potential issue or not. voids rip them apart with the over charge.... Catching tempest out of position with blink stalkers will always be a super efficient trade, their DPS verse ground is 9...a stalker DPS is 10 verse armored...so ya not to worried about it. And remember that they have no MASSIVE bonus verse ground so archons can be a good comp verse heavy tempest compared to colossus | ||
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Silky
United States260 Posts
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
On December 13 2012 08:54 Breach_hu wrote: Oracles againts mutas? Think about it again. Oracles can't atack air | ||
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Zergrusher
United States562 Posts
Because it gave so much potential for other units to be mixed in more and more comps and made mech and sky better. Looks like they still want bio to be The strongest option  | ||
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
On December 13 2012 09:50 Zergrusher wrote: I would love to hear the reasoning of un-doing the Sky/Mech attack upgrade. Because it gave so much potential for other units to be mixed in more and more comps and made mech and sky better. Looks like they still want bio to be The strongest option Because it was a bit overdone with merge of all air/ground upgrades. Now it looks more logical, like zerg and protoss upgrades | ||
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
But overall, I feel like Blizzard is doing pretty good with these beta patches. | ||
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