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HotS Balance Update #3 [9/20/2012] - Page 24

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top9696
Profile Joined December 2011
Korea (South)5 Posts
September 21 2012 05:22 GMT
#461
All hail hellion
ReMaiN13
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia16 Posts
September 21 2012 05:48 GMT
#462
If the battle hellion is bio now and not mech it can't be repaired in battle right? isn't this a nerf to marine hellion allins?
Crawdad
Profile Joined September 2012
614 Posts
September 21 2012 05:55 GMT
#463
On September 21 2012 14:48 ReMaiN13 wrote:
If the battle hellion is bio now and not mech it can't be repaired in battle right? isn't this a nerf to marine hellion allins?


No, it has both tags in battle mode.

It is Light - Biological - Mechanical. It uses Vehicle upgrades. It can be put into bunkers.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 21 2012 05:59 GMT
#464
On September 21 2012 14:55 Crawdad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 14:48 ReMaiN13 wrote:
If the battle hellion is bio now and not mech it can't be repaired in battle right? isn't this a nerf to marine hellion allins?


No, it has both tags in battle mode.

It is Light - Biological - Mechanical. It uses Vehicle upgrades. It can be put into bunkers.


Wait can it seriously fit into bunkers now?
When I think of something else, something will go here
Spacekyod
Profile Joined December 2010
United States818 Posts
September 21 2012 06:01 GMT
#465
[QUOTE]On September 21 2012 04:51 mythandier wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 21 2012 04:49 Plansix wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 21 2012 04:48 y0su wrote:
So battle hellions will can now be healed... but take more damage from archons. [/QUOTE]
a̶n̶d̶ ̶Q̶u̶e̶e̶n̶s̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶s̶p̶a̶w̶n̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶o̶d̶l̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶.[/QUOTE]

LOL! That was rich.

Starting to get antsy for the release.
Riders of the Plastic Groove. "When all-in fails, all-in again!" Finally... Make way for the real DONG!
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
September 21 2012 06:01 GMT
#466
On September 21 2012 14:55 Crawdad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 14:48 ReMaiN13 wrote:
If the battle hellion is bio now and not mech it can't be repaired in battle right? isn't this a nerf to marine hellion allins?


No, it has both tags in battle mode.

It is Light - Biological - Mechanical. It uses Vehicle upgrades. It can be put into bunkers.

It slices, it dices.... the only thing it can't do is blend.
unteqair
Profile Joined November 2011
United States308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 06:04:12
September 21 2012 06:02 GMT
#467
If battle mode helions are classified as biological and not mechanical, then stalkers will do less damage to them, right? This might be good for PvT.

Nevermind. Stalkers do more damage to armored.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 21 2012 06:02 GMT
#468
how in the hell does BH being biological even make the smallest amount of sense??
Writerptrk
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
September 21 2012 06:05 GMT
#469
On September 21 2012 15:02 ArvickHero wrote:
how in the hell does BH being biological even make the smallest amount of sense??

Its a guy inside a mechanical suit, just like marauders, marines, reapers, and scv's
... In life very little goes right. "Right" meaning the way one expected and the way one wanted it. One has no right to want or expect anything.
PermaScrub
Profile Joined July 2011
32 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 06:11:37
September 21 2012 06:09 GMT
#470
Honestly a way more elegant solution would be to scrap the battle hellion reintroduce the firebat as a factory unit with a larger bulkier model that would justify it getting mech upgrades and differentiate it from the maruader.

My common sense is a bit irked from this change. Especially since it seems like a unelegant hotfix to make mech more viable. Gameplay wise however, this is a great change to make it easier for meching terrans to defend their tank lines.

And people should stop assuming that just because battle hellions are biological that they can fit into a MM deathball. Not only do they not share the same upgrade path, but they are extremely immobile compared to stimmed MM.
Discarder
Profile Joined July 2012
Philippines411 Posts
September 21 2012 06:10 GMT
#471
The hellion change will revolutionize TvZ. Z will be mixing roaches in the mix once again! This is a cool way to shift the metagame.
You can take the lion out of the jungle, but you can't take the jungle out of the lion
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5225 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 06:18:52
September 21 2012 06:11 GMT
#472
On September 21 2012 05:42 Monkeyballs25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 05:40 mikedebo wrote:
dafuq... cars are biological? That explains why i want to hump them so often


Nono, you can only heal mechanical things if they're humanoid shaped!
Like SCVs, Marauders, and now hellions...


This made my day.

On September 21 2012 15:12 Frosty4ever wrote:
Really im only one who see? That BH biological buff its not making any mech play in TvP.... Its making just bio more puwerfull. Now bioball have something to tank dmg and melt zealots away.


Sadly, you are correct. Terran finally has use other than scouting for that Factory when playing bio, since they can now build bio units from it! And to counter improved bio, Protoss receives... a 15 range Capital ship with DPS equal to... a couple of SCVs. Sounds good... sigh.

Did Blizzard have a plan for HOTS that they are following to improve it, or are they just winging it? Because it seems like the latter.
Frosty4ever
Profile Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18 Posts
September 21 2012 06:12 GMT
#473
Really im only one who see? That BH biological buff its not making any mech play in TvP.... Its making just bio more puwerfull. Now bioball have something to tank dmg and melt zealots away.
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
September 21 2012 06:12 GMT
#474
On September 21 2012 15:05 imJealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 15:02 ArvickHero wrote:
how in the hell does BH being biological even make the smallest amount of sense??

Its a guy inside a mechanical suit, just like marauders, marines, reapers, and scv's

There's a man/woman inside every single one of the other units too. Just because you're now oriented vertically doesn't mean suddenly everybody's going to attack at the meaty part and the vehicle is going to stay pristine. Then as soon as the driver dies, the vehicle goes boom.
shogeki
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada75 Posts
September 21 2012 06:16 GMT
#475
I try to avoid negative comments when I can, but the battle hellion as biological is just dumb as shit, ESPECIALLY when combined with mechanical flag. I have faith that the developers are not totally smoking crack, and this change will be rolled back. If not, this is the first time I will seriously consider not buying HotS. I can't think of a single reason that this change makes sense. Terrans are not going to build a mech composition vs. Protoss with this change -- they are going to just add Battle Hellions to the same builds they used before. This doesn't add any positional play or fun dynamic to Terran play. It also has the potential to totally screw Zerg with a whole slew of 1-1-1 all-ins utilizing SCVs and Medivacs to double up on healing.

Come on, Blizzard. You want to add Firebats to the game? Just add them. Stim alone makes them more interesting than this. Add Vultures too while you're at it.
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
September 21 2012 06:20 GMT
#476
On September 21 2012 15:10 Discarder wrote:
The hellion change will revolutionize TvZ. Z will be mixing roaches in the mix once again! This is a cool way to shift the metagame.


Roaches are most boring units to watch so this really isnt that good
Ballistixz
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1269 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 06:25:03
September 21 2012 06:22 GMT
#477

Battle Hellion
While in Battle mode, the hellion is now classified as a Biological unit.


while in battle mode, the hellion turns into a firebat


blizzard blizzard blizzard....

i guess firebats can be healed by medivacs AND repaired by SCvs at the same time. do they honestly not think/test when they try to balance shit or do they just throw something in and hope it works?
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
September 21 2012 06:23 GMT
#478
On September 21 2012 15:20 Tppz! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 15:10 Discarder wrote:
The hellion change will revolutionize TvZ. Z will be mixing roaches in the mix once again! This is a cool way to shift the metagame.


Roaches are most boring units to watch so this really isnt that good

I believe he was being sarcastic .
DeathPengu
Profile Joined January 2011
Taiwan137 Posts
September 21 2012 06:35 GMT
#479
On September 21 2012 15:05 imJealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 15:02 ArvickHero wrote:
how in the hell does BH being biological even make the smallest amount of sense??

Its a guy inside a mechanical suit, just like marauders, marines, reapers, and scv's

And hellion is also a car which a guy in it. Why is it mech?
DeCoup
Profile Joined September 2006
Australia1933 Posts
September 21 2012 06:39 GMT
#480
Bio BH only makes bio more powerful in the early game. The upgrades will make a bio + BH composition worse as the game goes on (unless the Terran upgrades both engi and armory the whole time). I think Pure +3+3Engi MMM would have better damage and mitigation than MMM+BF +3+3Engi +0+0Armory.
"Poor guy. I really did not deserve that win. So this is what it's like to play Protoss..." - IdrA
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