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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10801 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 08:10:50
September 21 2012 06:53 GMT
#481
So... They put in the Hellion which was the bastard child of the Vulture and Firebat which now can transform into a Firebat.


Way to go! ... ... Can't wait until in Lotv it also will be able to transform into a Vulture...
Crawdad
Profile Joined September 2012
614 Posts
September 21 2012 06:55 GMT
#482
On September 21 2012 15:39 DeCoup wrote:
Bio BH only makes bio more powerful in the early game. The upgrades will make a bio + BH composition worse as the game goes on (unless the Terran upgrades both engi and armory the whole time). I think Pure +3+3Engi MMM would have better damage and mitigation than MMM+BF +3+3Engi +0+0Armory.


Also, BHs are tier 3. I've seen them in action, and MAN do they diversify play... I think Blizz made the right choice.
DaveVAH
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada162 Posts
September 21 2012 07:02 GMT
#483
This is a great change (Bio Hellbats), finally mech players can use bunkers now as well.

Mines still cost too much supply.

Fix the raven now and revert the BC ground dmg nerf (it wasn't a bug guys, DK said it was intended..)
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
September 21 2012 07:05 GMT
#484
On September 21 2012 16:02 DaveVAH wrote:
This is a great change (Bio Hellbats), finally mech players can use bunkers now as well.

Mines still cost too much supply.

Fix the raven now and revert the BC ground dmg nerf (it wasn't a bug guys, DK said it was intended..)


Wait you can put them in bunkers o_o
Romanes eunt domus
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1918 Posts
September 21 2012 07:07 GMT
#485
don't like this idea at all... not because it might not be useful but rather because it sounds so awkward... Also now Terran Mech has to rely on some Medivacs for healing support which takes more supply away that could be invested into AA aka Vikings... Just feels like they're tweaking stuff for the plain sake of being able to show the community they're testing stuff, regardless of how much sense these changes make.
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
September 21 2012 07:11 GMT
#486
On September 21 2012 16:07 Creager wrote:
don't like this idea at all... not because it might not be useful but rather because it sounds so awkward... Also now Terran Mech has to rely on some Medivacs for healing support which takes more supply away that could be invested into AA aka Vikings... Just feels like they're tweaking stuff for the plain sake of being able to show the community they're testing stuff, regardless of how much sense these changes make.


Well if they "have to" (which they don't btw) make medivacs in order to keep the battle hellions alive, that also opens up more harassment possibilities. Which is good.
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
September 21 2012 07:12 GMT
#487
so medivac heals battle hellion and then turn back normal hellion?
ishida66
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan74 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 07:17:03
September 21 2012 07:16 GMT
#488
On September 21 2012 16:05 BobMcJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 16:02 DaveVAH wrote:
This is a great change (Bio Hellbats), finally mech players can use bunkers now as well.

Mines still cost too much supply.

Fix the raven now and revert the BC ground dmg nerf (it wasn't a bug guys, DK said it was intended..)


Wait you can put them in bunkers o_o


As long as you dont morph them back inside,that would make the bunker implode.
gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
September 21 2012 07:26 GMT
#489
Biological? So do baneling do more damage to them?

They already take extra damage from banelings but will take extra from Archons. It should also means Ghosts can snipe them, a̶n̶d̶ ̶Q̶u̶e̶e̶n̶s̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶s̶p̶a̶w̶n̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶o̶d̶l̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶.[/QUOTE]

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Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 07:29:09
September 21 2012 07:28 GMT
#490
yo dawg we heard you like mech so we put a mech in a bio, so you can meching while bioing

blizzard is trolling hard

User was temp banned for this post.
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
September 21 2012 07:29 GMT
#491
battle hellion that can be healed by medivacs is AWESOME. Love it.
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gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
September 21 2012 07:31 GMT
#492
God damn. I wan't firebats so badly right now. Hot damn.. just the firebat voice sends shivers down my spine... crawler
Not even death can save you from me.
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
September 21 2012 07:44 GMT
#493
Now you can construct Bio... from Factory. What?
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Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
September 21 2012 07:51 GMT
#494
Hm, it's interesting..

Imagine BH in front of tanks healed by medivacs, all this supported by few vikings, raven and a few widow mines thrown in.. Like TvP, this actually sounds fun..
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
September 21 2012 07:52 GMT
#495
in LOTV they will introduce Bio from starport
Crawdad
Profile Joined September 2012
614 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 08:08:41
September 21 2012 08:08 GMT
#496
What I'm learning from streams is, especially in TvT: Use Widow mines or die.
Jikan No Muda
Profile Joined August 2012
39 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 08:16:16
September 21 2012 08:13 GMT
#497
So, I can do a drop with 3 BH and 2 scvs and they should never die?

e. wtf BH in bunkers?

Blizzards greatest idea ever, and not only because it's basically a firebat now.
Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
September 21 2012 08:14 GMT
#498
On September 21 2012 16:02 DaveVAH wrote:
This is a great change (Bio Hellbats), finally mech players can use bunkers now as well.

Mines still cost too much supply.

Fix the raven now and revert the BC ground dmg nerf (it wasn't a bug guys, DK said it was intended..)

What the... really? People will never be happy. For 75/25/2 you deal 160 single target and 60 AoE damage? So, with 6 population(3 mines), you can kill about 16 population of Stalkers, and it is too much? Wow...
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1918 Posts
September 21 2012 08:24 GMT
#499
I really think while listening to the community overall ist a good thing, this balancing is getting out of hand and blizzard is getting closer and closer to fucking this game up completely instead of getting right back on track with it...

viking valkyrie upgrade!!!
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Icks
Profile Joined July 2009
France186 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 08:52:48
September 21 2012 08:44 GMT
#500
On September 21 2012 15:35 DeathPengu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 15:05 imJealous wrote:
On September 21 2012 15:02 ArvickHero wrote:
how in the hell does BH being biological even make the smallest amount of sense??

Its a guy inside a mechanical suit, just like marauders, marines, reapers, and scv's

And hellion is also a car which a guy in it. Why is it mech?

Because the Hellion goes very fast so it is a completely closed vehicle in which the pilot cannot be healed. In Battle form, the pilot is accessible like a scv.

Seriously, how come are you all suddenly looking for some logic in this game?
"OMG a bio unit coming from the Factory !! Damn i wont buy this expansion! Since Activision came Blizzard is really doing shit !!" -_-

It is still a... unit coming from a... building! yay!
And if this heal is good gameplaywise, it's fine. If it's not, i hope they'll remove it. But please, stop with the socalled logic, people are very narrow-minded!

(and don't take extreme examples like warped-in marines or something like that to make me say that Blizzard has the right to do anything without logic >_>.)
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