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Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
September 21 2012 01:28 GMT
#421
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DeCoup
Profile Joined September 2006
Australia1933 Posts
September 21 2012 01:31 GMT
#422
On September 21 2012 10:24 archon256 wrote:
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On September 21 2012 10:17 Ozell wrote:
battle helions into a bunker.... wtf. That means, I could do a runby with 100 zerglings and still don't kill the bunker -_-

I wonder how many Swarm Hosts it'd take to kill one of those...

With good positioning maybe not many. BH have the same range as locusts, so 2 swarm hosts with the 4 locusts well spread might take very little splash. Then again... sc2 is about 1a not micro or positioning, so i'm going with 4 swarm hosts + derp.
"Poor guy. I really did not deserve that win. So this is what it's like to play Protoss..." - IdrA
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
September 21 2012 01:32 GMT
#423
Yay bio units from the factory. Blizzard is just derping extremely hard right now. I'd rather have the warhound back then this idiocy of somehow a transformed hellion is now a biological unit.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
September 21 2012 01:34 GMT
#424
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Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 01:44:36
September 21 2012 01:37 GMT
#425
On September 21 2012 10:34 monkybone wrote:
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On September 21 2012 10:32 Infernal_dream wrote:
Yay bio units from the factory. Blizzard is just derping extremely hard right now. I'd rather have the warhound back then this idiocy of somehow a transformed hellion is now a biological unit.


The warhound was hated by almost everyone, and the bio hellion is loved by almost everyone.

Beyond premature to say, it's not hard to be more liked than the warhound imo.
KuRiCobbY
Profile Joined September 2011
37 Posts
September 21 2012 01:50 GMT
#426
So instead of fixing the Warhound (or altering its role) - Blizzard completely removes it...

and now bio Battle Hellions? Doesn't anyone else think it's terrible that Terran has to stay on bio all throughout TvP? Why such a quick decision? Meching in TvP should be at least a strong option (if not the ideal option).
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 21 2012 01:52 GMT
#427
They should give Terrans something with mind control so that I can put ultralisks into bunkers...
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ma5ta
Profile Joined June 2011
United States46 Posts
September 21 2012 01:55 GMT
#428
THX for the firebat Blizz. Now, goliath plz.
"YEAH IM WINNING! BETTER GG!"
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 01:59:25
September 21 2012 01:59 GMT
#429
Is it just me or do bio hellions seem completely counter-intuitive? You can heal them with a medivac and when it transforms back to mechanical it stays repaired... what?

Would make more sense if they just magically turn into firebats.
"See you space cowboy"
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
September 21 2012 01:59 GMT
#430
On September 21 2012 10:52 Shikyo wrote:
They should give Terrans something with mind control so that I can put ultralisks into bunkers...

How the hell would that even works? Do melee units also get the +1 range buff? What would it do to Ultra splash?
Mind exploding.

Good thing terran have no mind control then.
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bhfberserk
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada390 Posts
September 21 2012 02:02 GMT
#431
I don't care about balance or not. But battle hellion can be heal by medivac and then can only be repaired in hellion mode just seems too weird... Come on blizzard , is Viking bio now when it lands??
Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
September 21 2012 02:12 GMT
#432
Seriously, this is like listening to a bunch of warcraft lore nerds complaining about Thrall.

All you guys should care about is when you hit the battle hellion button, your medivacs heal the hellions. Nothing else. Frankly it's an awesome solution to the main problem I was having with it. Maybe they will make hellions entirely biological.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
September 21 2012 02:17 GMT
#433
They should let hellions be driven by firebats. Instead of transforming, a firebat gets out of the hellion and starts roasting shit. Blaster master meets SC.

Stupidest thing I have ever seen of life.
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czylu
Profile Joined June 2012
477 Posts
September 21 2012 02:25 GMT
#434
The problem with the warhound: Blizzard, stop putting bio in my mech!
The problem w/ the bio hellion: Blizzard, stop putting bio in my mech!

The problem w/ these proposed changes: Blizzard, stop putting bio in my mech!
kiklion
Profile Joined April 2011
99 Posts
September 21 2012 02:33 GMT
#435
Mines might not two shot mutas as they may regen one hp between mines.

Changing type between bio and mech when changing modes is stupid. Maybe make them both bio/mech, but it feels like poor playing to change from battle to mobile? mode just to repair them.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13405 Posts
September 21 2012 02:38 GMT
#436
On September 21 2012 11:25 czylu wrote:
The problem with the warhound: Blizzard, stop putting bio in my mech!
The problem w/ the bio hellion: Blizzard, stop putting bio in my mech!

The problem w/ these proposed changes: Blizzard, stop putting bio in my mech!


I need clarification here: they take upgrades for vehicles still right?
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gengka
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia461 Posts
September 21 2012 02:46 GMT
#437
On September 21 2012 11:12 Evangelist wrote:
Seriously, this is like listening to a bunch of warcraft lore nerds complaining about Thrall.

All you guys should care about is when you hit the battle hellion button, your medivacs heal the hellions. Nothing else. Frankly it's an awesome solution to the main problem I was having with it. Maybe they will make hellions entirely biological.


I have no problem with this. Use your imagination and all these will make sense. Autobots had decided to joint force with the Terran and infuse themselves into battle hellions. Therefore when the BH transforms it becomes some sort of Bio-Mech structure and thus can be healed by mediviac.
Make Love Not War
denyeverything
Profile Joined March 2012
25 Posts
September 21 2012 02:47 GMT
#438
The Bio-bot change is retarded. It's clear creative bankruptcy. "Oh, we don't know how to fix this unit.... well, let's just stick them with something that does work and call that game design." What, are they going to stim next patch to?
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
September 21 2012 02:52 GMT
#439
I just cant wait until Blizzard tries to explain the lore of the battle hellion. Motorcycle morphs into some guy, then back.

Also the patch hasnt actually gone through just yet, right?
WeaponX.7
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada52 Posts
September 21 2012 03:11 GMT
#440
I think now the siege tank should be able to transform into the warhound, and be bio, obviously. Maybe while they're at it they could make some other terran units transform and become bio and before you know it the thor will transform into optimus prime, but he'll be bio of course.
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