EPTBut please, PLEASE don't bring him back as an infested. There's no point in making him return if he's something else than what he was before: a crazy BAMF.
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Phrencys
Canada270 Posts
But please, PLEASE don't bring him back as an infested. There's no point in making him return if he's something else than what he was before: a crazy BAMF. | ||
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Jefferino
United States69 Posts
If Tychus was suddenly stopped from sabotaging Mengsk, his "deal with the devil" would've been revealed immediately and Tychus would be kicked off the Hyperion or killed. Mengsk viewed killing Kerrigan as more important than his problems with Raynor's Raiders so he allowed those acts to happen so that he could get an opportunity to get what he really wanted. | ||
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Edlina
Denmark28 Posts
On August 11 2010 21:44 Jefferino wrote: There's a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why Tychus wasn't stopped from stealing the Odin/broadcasting incriminating evidence against Mengsk. Clearly, Raynor and co knew that Tychus had a gun pointed at his head the whole time, but they were not sure by who (I think Tychus lies and says its the Mobius Foundation, which is a plausible excuse). If Tychus was suddenly stopped from sabotaging Mengsk, his "deal with the devil" would've been revealed immediately and Tychus would be kicked off the Hyperion or killed. Mengsk viewed killing Kerrigan as more important than his problems with Raynor's Raiders so he allowed those acts to happen so that he could get an opportunity to get what he really wanted. And he most likely viewed killing Kerrigan as his top priority due to being controlled by/in league with 'the dark voice'/fallen one - hybrid creator. And he was told that killing Kerrigan would be a possiblity for Tychus through Raynor and the use of the artifact (which incidentally was collected, given to Raynor and its use explained by naruD - Duran, also in league with 'the dark voice'/fallen one) as Kerrigan would obviously be at her most vulnerable when she was no longer the Queen Bitch of the Universe (and she will be missed as such!). This is at least the most obvious conclusion from the secret mission hybrid lab thingy. So the Fallen Ones plot was to weaken (ie. turn human) and then kill Kerrigan through Mengsk, through Tychus through Raynor (through Valerian/Narud/Mobius/the artifact) in order to secure the end of times as envisaged in the protoss crystal storyline. This also explains why they couldn't kill Kerrigan in the 'rescue the Mobius foundation' mission, as they did not yet have the possibility to turn her human, and clearly she's quite powerful as the Queen of Blades (see fx the cut scene where her wing/arm regrows while fighting Zeratul). All the while none of the main bad guys would get in the line of fire - 'worst case scenario' for them was the deaths of Tychus or/and Raynor while still having an infested Kerrigan to deal with. A dead Tychus and alive but cleansed Kerrigan would still be better than her staying infested - as she (supposedly) can no longer control the swarm and is at least "more" mortal now. Valerian stealing half the fleet was probably not part of Mengsk's plans, but given the dark voice's likely promise of giving him the world (or at least hybrids to control - or some similar promise (ie. the lab)) - it was probably something he could live with as long as Kerrigan ended up dead. | ||
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Dugrok
Canada377 Posts
On August 11 2010 00:30 Piski wrote: I know he is probably dead but I still hope they would bring him back. Don't care how, he was just such a cool character He was Edmund Duke with a new haircut and backstory tbh. He was alright, but they didn't really change anything. | ||
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DuneBug
United States668 Posts
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Blanke
Canada180 Posts
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Cajun2k1
Netherlands399 Posts
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TriniMasta
United States1323 Posts
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
On August 12 2010 04:59 TriniMasta wrote: If the suit would kill him instantly, couldn't Mengsk have killed Tychus when he knew he was working with Raynor to stop him? With like a CP or a remote or something? Yes, but then it wouldnt be a movie/video game. Think of all the times James Bond could just have been shot+killed rather then drowned, burned by a laser into the groin etc. | ||
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Blanke
Canada180 Posts
and this one explains why games that give us the choice between being sadistically evil and sanctimonously good are just lame: I think Starcraft 2's development and writing team needs to watch both of these videos if they want to make HoTS' storyline remotely interesting. | ||
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Schickysc
Canada380 Posts
On topic. Tychus is dead. That's the beauty of video games. You can hype a character for months, get you to love or hate him, and effect the community in either way by killing him off or keeping him around. HotS? Lets create another character that plays a large part of the main story, and use him/her now for the same thing. Obviously blizzard hit the nail on the head. Players are doing EXACTLY what blizzard wanted. They are letting their emotions, feelings or thoughts be effected by the character. This topic was created, read, and replied by many. I guess they succeeded in getting people to talk about their game, for weeks/months/years after it was played, and engage in meaningful conversation about it. +1 Blizzard. | ||
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Coulthard
Greece3359 Posts
On August 11 2010 01:04 MangoTango wrote: Infested Tychus in 18 months, you'll see. haha that would be the sickest thing ever xD | ||
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New Zealand6138 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On August 10 2010 22:35 Annatar11 wrote: It was Mengsk who put him in the suit, though. The Tychus storyline was spoiled by Blizzard in the intro movie, of all things, which shows Tychus get suited up and Mengsk talking to him about how it's going to be his new prison. I actually didn't see this sequence. How do I get to see it again. Now each time Sc2 starts I never see it. | ||
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lepape
Canada557 Posts
On August 12 2010 10:31 Blanke wrote: This video explains why we don't have good storytelling in video games: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jdG2LHair0 and this one explains why games that give us the choice between being sadistically evil and sanctimonously good are just lame: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_KU3lUx3u0&feature=related I think Starcraft 2's development and writing team needs to watch both of these videos if they want to make HoTS' storyline remotely interesting. The second video doesnt have much to do with SC2, considering there's only three choices during the campaign that affect the storyline, only one being a really good vs evil type choice (if you wanna team with Nova or if you wanna team with Tosh). | ||
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jfourz
Ireland421 Posts
i don't think they'd make the same mistake again | ||
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BuzzJuice
United States97 Posts
I think Tychus knew he would die one way or another. I think he found peace in knowing his friend would honorably dispatch him rather than a known enemy. He probably knew Mengsk wouldn't keep his part of the deal and wanted to fail in such a way that Mengsk thinks he is actually trying. Keep in mind that Tychus is from a Heavens Angels and black ops background like Raynor. If he really wanted to carry this out, he would have a better tactic and an escape plan as well. Oh yeah, I don't think Tychus will come back as infested because Raynor doesn't seem like the guy to leave a man's corpse behind, and whatever Tychus did, I don't think Raynor would have just left him there to rot and wanted to give him a proper burial, honorably. (Besides Raynor probably knows leaving a dead man in a Zerg Hive would probably result in infestation...) Also, Raynor just used his last bullet that was meant for Mengsk. Figure he gonna get a new bullet or decide to let Kerrigan finish him off? Pure speculation yes. | ||
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Grend
1600 Posts
Kind of like the dude with the funky lookin` hairdo in the Fifth Element. | ||
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Zexion
Sweden971 Posts
And I think Tassadar meant that his spirit didn't die, even though his body is dead. | ||
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Tamburlaine
Canada288 Posts
On August 13 2010 03:16 Grend wrote: Isnt the one who hired Tychus the Dark Voice thing? Only thing that makes sense imo, as killing Kerrigan would ensure his world dominion. Kind of like the dude with the funky lookin` hairdo in the Fifth Element. It was Mengsk. It sounded exactly like Mengsk. The opening cutscene hinted at it being Mengsk. The subtitles explicitly said it was Mengsk. Now, could there be some manipulation going on behind the scenes somewhere? Probably. It's Starcraft. + Show Spoiler + Calling it now: Duran/The Xel'Naga were pulling the strings of Moebius, as is often speculated due to the whole name thing. They wanted Kerrigan human and useless and killable. Kerrigan will have to let herself get re-infested to stop the Xel'Naga/Hybrids. For some contrived reason, the artifact will break or get lost or something. + Show Spoiler + Also, Fenix is an immortal now. | ||
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