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Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 15:26:29
August 14 2010 15:25 GMT
#81
Just that it being Mengsk makes so little sense.

Not going to start complaining about plotholes and stuff but the whole Tychus affair must be the most convoluted and uneccessarily complex plan ever hatched by anyone if its Mengsk.
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Qzy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark1121 Posts
August 14 2010 18:19 GMT
#82
I searched long and hard for this post, so you better give me some props!

Neil, the voice actor behind Tychus replied on his facebook wall, when someone wrote: "Omg you died".

"Shhhhhh... ahem... *Spoiler Alert*

Besides which... it's science fiction. Are you SURE he'd dead?"
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Thoreezhea1
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States532 Posts
August 14 2010 18:54 GMT
#83
no infested tychus, the swarm would be without leadership and central control, the only living overmind is being controlled and researched on by the ued. the zerg would not infest anyone without reason or central direction, and if kerrigan retains psionic control over the swarm, she would not want to infest tychus, particular after what he (tried) to do to her. crazy, insane, bloody, and generally cucu in a bad way tychus isn't something raynor and kerrigan would aim for.
What the Fu- REAPERS?!
ZeGzoR
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden307 Posts
August 14 2010 21:16 GMT
#84
How the end scene would play out if it was real:

Raynor: There is Kerrigan lets save her!

Tychus: "Yeah right". Ups my finger slipped.

Raynor: Well, shit happends.

The end

yeah yeah im going
buhhy
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1113 Posts
August 14 2010 21:32 GMT
#85
On August 15 2010 06:16 ZeGzoR wrote:
How the end scene would play out if it was real:

Raynor: There is Kerrigan lets save her!

Tychus: "Yeah right". Ups my finger slipped.

Raynor: Well, shit happends.

The end



Lol, if the game was real, everyone would've died on Char already.
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
August 14 2010 21:43 GMT
#86
On August 15 2010 03:19 Qzy wrote:
I searched long and hard for this post, so you better give me some props!

Neil, the voice actor behind Tychus replied on his facebook wall, when someone wrote: "Omg you died".

"Shhhhhh... ahem... *Spoiler Alert*

Besides which... it's science fiction. Are you SURE he'd dead?"


I think that meant don't spoil the WoL plot, not spoilers jk not dead.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 14 2010 22:32 GMT
#87
Given how often this game seems to like bringing back supposedly 'dead' characters + Show Spoiler +
*cough kerrigan tassadar fenix overmind stukov etc*
, I wouldn't put it past Blizzard to bring Tychus back. It would be stupid, but they might do it...
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
August 14 2010 23:48 GMT
#88
On August 11 2010 01:23 intrigue wrote:
i don't understand why tychus made his intentions to kill kerrigan so clear. if he had simply never said anything regarding her and just shot her at the end (a natural reaction from any terran), raynor would be hard-pressed to find a reason to kill him. why would he believe mengsk would allow him to go free? he has no leverage against the man, and is actually just a horrible loose end to leave around.


I think it was because he was having a mental struggle on the inside... and he didn't expect raynor to be carrying his pistol. The story kinda eludes to tychus struggling with inner demons.
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Subtlety
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada113 Posts
August 15 2010 00:01 GMT
#89
Well I mean Tychus did "die" on Char, and with Kerrigan no longer being the Queen of Blades (Assumed from spoiler video), means that the Zerg needs a new leader...maybe? wishful thinking but it would be a neat twist
pre_amp
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia47 Posts
August 15 2010 00:02 GMT
#90
What i dont understand is why tychus attempted to kill kerrigan at that point. Even if he did succeed and kill her right there, its not as if he would be able to just walk away right next to Jimmy and his raiders. You would of thought that hed have chosen a more discrete location/opportunity so he would be able to escape or hide that he did it.
yeah zerg, . . .zerg scary
Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada967 Posts
August 15 2010 00:05 GMT
#91
obv he becomes infested tychus
Team[AoV]
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 15 2010 00:16 GMT
#92
On August 15 2010 07:32 Jyvblamo wrote:
Given how often this game seems to like bringing back supposedly 'dead' characters + Show Spoiler +
*cough kerrigan tassadar fenix overmind stukov etc*
, I wouldn't put it past Blizzard to bring Tychus back. It would be stupid, but they might do it...

Fenix makes sense since he was a zealot and he turns into a dragoon which makes perf sense, The overmind wanted kerrigan because he had obv saw into the future..(zeratul crystal) overmind yeah..but it wasnt really the original one so idk if you can count that, does blizz acknowledge infested stukov?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Torture
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada221 Posts
August 15 2010 01:35 GMT
#93

What confuses me is the apparent contradictions with Tychus's allegiance. If he was freed by Mengsk and ordered to kill Kerrigan, why was he "allowed" to pilot the Odin and subvert Mengsk?
Did Mengsk somehow know that Tychus would get close enough to kill Kerrigan? If so, how? At times, Tychus is talking about only wanting to get paid, other times he wants to save humanity, and he also tries to start a coup against Raynor. His role changed too much and was too contradictory IMO. Still, he was pretty cool, in a hard-boiled sort of way.


I interpreted the "coup" as he didn't want Raynor to go after Kerrigan as an attempt to avoid fulfilling his end of the bargain and betraying his friend.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
August 15 2010 01:53 GMT
#94
On August 15 2010 07:32 Jyvblamo wrote:
Given how often this game seems to like bringing back supposedly 'dead' characters + Show Spoiler +
*cough kerrigan tassadar fenix overmind stukov etc*
, I wouldn't put it past Blizzard to bring Tychus back. It would be stupid, but they might do it...


stukov?? when was he revived
savior did nothing wrong
Pokedude1013
Profile Joined August 2010
116 Posts
August 15 2010 02:17 GMT
#95
On August 15 2010 10:53 EleanorRIgby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2010 07:32 Jyvblamo wrote:
Given how often this game seems to like bringing back supposedly 'dead' characters + Show Spoiler +
*cough kerrigan tassadar fenix overmind stukov etc*
, I wouldn't put it past Blizzard to bring Tychus back. It would be stupid, but they might do it...


stukov?? when was he revived


one of the novels
Get out
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 15 2010 05:11 GMT
#96
On August 15 2010 10:35 Torture wrote:
Show nested quote +

What confuses me is the apparent contradictions with Tychus's allegiance. If he was freed by Mengsk and ordered to kill Kerrigan, why was he "allowed" to pilot the Odin and subvert Mengsk?
Did Mengsk somehow know that Tychus would get close enough to kill Kerrigan? If so, how? At times, Tychus is talking about only wanting to get paid, other times he wants to save humanity, and he also tries to start a coup against Raynor. His role changed too much and was too contradictory IMO. Still, he was pretty cool, in a hard-boiled sort of way.


I interpreted the "coup" as he didn't want Raynor to go after Kerrigan as an attempt to avoid fulfilling his end of the bargain and betraying his friend.

Mengsk let him do all this because if his reputation was in the dirt, if he killed Kerrigan then he would automatically be worshipped as a god who stopped the zerg, thats why he allowed Tychus to do it
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
August 15 2010 05:43 GMT
#97
what. I thought tychus would rather be killed by raynor than mengsk, which is why he did it. we alll have our choices shows that raynor was aware of tychus backkstabbing, and tychus knew he was dead either way.
Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
August 15 2010 06:03 GMT
#98
On August 11 2010 01:23 intrigue wrote:
i don't understand why tychus made his intentions to kill kerrigan so clear. if he had simply never said anything regarding her and just shot her at the end (a natural reaction from any terran), raynor would be hard-pressed to find a reason to kill him. why would he believe mengsk would allow him to go free? he has no leverage against the man, and is actually just a horrible loose end to leave around.


Only sensible explanation to me is that Tychus thought he and Raynor got so close together that it was "Bros before Hoes". He wanted to be honest to Raynor after what they had gone through, and I guess Tychus was a bit of dramaqueen and noisemaker who wouldn't just act out on long planned plan acting it was reaction or misfire. I don't mean to say Raynor could've accepted him killing Kerrigan, but underestimated Raynor's feelings for Kerrigan and possibly overestimated their Bro'ness to think Raynor could do the only thing to save Kerrigan - kill Tychus.

Gah, the ugliest paragraph I've ever written.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 15 2010 06:13 GMT
#99
On August 15 2010 15:03 Ouga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 01:23 intrigue wrote:
i don't understand why tychus made his intentions to kill kerrigan so clear. if he had simply never said anything regarding her and just shot her at the end (a natural reaction from any terran), raynor would be hard-pressed to find a reason to kill him. why would he believe mengsk would allow him to go free? he has no leverage against the man, and is actually just a horrible loose end to leave around.


Only sensible explanation to me is that Tychus thought he and Raynor got so close together that it was "Bros before Hoes". He wanted to be honest to Raynor after what they had gone through, and I guess Tychus was a bit of dramaqueen and noisemaker who wouldn't just act out on long planned plan acting it was reaction or misfire. I don't mean to say Raynor could've accepted him killing Kerrigan, but underestimated Raynor's feelings for Kerrigan and possibly overestimated their Bro'ness to think Raynor could do the only thing to save Kerrigan - kill Tychus.

Gah, the ugliest paragraph I've ever written.

Tychus also was unaware of one critical piece of information - that Jim knew that Kerrigan needed to survive to avoid the destruction of the three races.
.ImpacT.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States390 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 06:17:47
August 15 2010 06:17 GMT
#100
Tychus Findlay was "good at heart". He knew Raynor always carried his pistol (he saw it on multiple occasions, one of them being when the Hyperion was docking with the 'Mobeius" ship.

The REASON why Tychus made such a production was to TELL Jim that he had to kill him (Jim kill Tychus). Tychus knew he was dead either way - Mengsk would kill him if he didn't kill Kerrigan, so he made a HUGE production out of it to try to tell Jim indirectly that it wasn't HIS fault, hence the "I made a deal with the Devil." he also tried to start a coup against Raynor - likely to try to stop the Char invasion-plan so it didn't come down to him having to choose. After all that they had been through together, I don't believe that Tychus could have betrayed Raynor. He was self-centered, but had shown numerous times to be one of Jim's closest allies.

Just my two cents.
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