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Throughout the campaign, Tychus is genuinely disturbed by the notion of infested marines. I believe this is simple foreshadowing at work. If Blizzard decides to bring him back, which is most likely since they invested so much time into his character, he will probably be infested, just like Stukov. (Removed yes, but Tychus could be the curve ball here.)
As for Mengsk, I'm just utterly disappointed by how Blizzard portrayed him as an oblivious fool in SC2, which is nothing like the cold, conniving mastermind we knew and loved in SC1. For instance, the reason everyone rioted over Kate Lockwell's audio tape is because Mengsk lost his cool, rather than dismissing the tape as slanderous propoganda. Oh, and in a real dictatorship, Kate would've been imprisoned and tortured for pulling a stunt like that.
The greatest fear I have for SC2's storyline, above Zeratul's abysmal voice acting and cliched dialogue, beyond the cringe-worthy one-liners constantly exchanged between Matt Horner and James Raynor, even looking past the American action movie ending of WoL, is the fate of Valerian Mengsk. Blizzard is notorious for recycling their plotlines, and has a knack for overusing betrayal. (Just look at the Warcraft Universe and count how many betrayals occur from the Titans and Old Gods to WoW Cataclysm. It's ridiculous!)
Please Blizzard, please do not make Valerian Mengsk Arthas in space!
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On August 11 2010 09:12 Blanke wrote:
Throughout the campaign, Tychus is genuinely disturbed by the notion of infested marines. I believe this is simple foreshadowing at work. If Blizzard decides to bring him back, which is most likely since they invested so much time into his character, he will probably be infested, just like Stukov. (Removed yes, but Tychus could be the curve ball here.)
As for Mengsk, I'm just utterly disappointed by how Blizzard portrayed him as an oblivious fool in SC2, which is nothing like the cold, conniving mastermind we knew and loved in SC1. For instance, the reason everyone rioted over Kate Lockwell's audio tape is because Mengsk lost his cool, rather than dismissing the tape as slanderous propoganda. Oh, and in a real dictatorship, Kate would've been imprisoned and tortured for pulling a stunt like that.
The greatest fear I have for SC2's storyline, above Zeratul's abysmal voice acting and cliched dialogue, beyond the cringe-worthy one-liners constantly exchanged between Matt Horner and James Raynor, even looking past the American action movie ending of WoL, is the fate of Valerian Mengsk. Blizzard is notorious for recycling their plotlines, and has a knack for overusing betrayal. (Just look at the Warcraft Universe and count how many betrayals occur from the Titans and Old Gods to WoW Cataclysm. It's ridiculous!)
Please Blizzard, please do not make Valerian Mengsk Arthas in space!
There must always be a lich king... I mean overmind!
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On August 11 2010 09:12 Blanke wrote:
Throughout the campaign, Tychus is genuinely disturbed by the notion of infested marines. I believe this is simple foreshadowing at work. If Blizzard decides to bring him back, which is most likely since they invested so much time into his character, he will probably be infested, just like Stukov. (Removed yes, but Tychus could be the curve ball here.)
Agreed. He died on Char and I assume his body was left there, so it is possible that the remaining zerg there found his body after the terrans left and infested it. And as you mentioned, they seem to have put quite some time into his character so I don't really think they will drop him this quickly.
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[QUOTE]On August 11 2010 01:16 PGHammer wrote:
Also, Fenix lost his Templar body; however, he wound up in a Dragoon body (original SC). Also, Tassadar appeared at the Zerg Overmind's very dead corpse on Aiur itself. The Protoss, for all their technology, are the most mystical of the three species of the Starcraft/SC2 universe. (I compare them to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for that reason.)
Fenix wasn't a templar. He was a zealot and dragoons are just zealots who have lost the use of their bodies in combat and have been put in the dragoon suit to continue fighting. Thats why in BW when you make a goon it says "I have returned". As for tychus...I don't know...its blizzard....
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Zealots are templar in training.
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really? didnt know that.......ah......that explains a lot.
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Blizzard does overuse betrayal, and I think the whole LK ending was really weak - but I hope for the sake of the series that they do a good job with these expands. I have to hope that they already have everything written out. I think then you write piecemeal that it makes the worst stories.
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On August 11 2010 00:22 dybydx wrote:
someone pointed out that they also told us Tassadar was dead since Broodwar but then in WoL he claims he never tasted death.
so ya, his death is not certain despite what the epilogue says.
i think i'll wet myself if he's the protagonist in the last installment of the trilogy. :3
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Honestly not a whole lot makes sense in the SC2 campaign.
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On August 11 2010 10:08 Half wrote:
Zealots are templar in training.
Lore Nerd ENGAGE!
Zealots are Templar. Dragoons (being wounded zealots) are also Templar. So are scouts pilots, carrier pilots, high templar (of course), and all executor. Templar just means "warrior caste" for protoss. If memory serves, the only non-templar units (discounting the tricky issue of Dark Templar) are the various robots and the arbiters, who I'm pretty sure were Judicator ("ruling caste", though the only plot-relevant Judicator, Aldaris, was depicted as a high templar because... well, because).
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When Tychus was doing the whole coup against Raynor thing, wasn't he just drunk and scared?
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In the lore, both on Valerians and Arcturus' enclosed description, it mentioned that they have little love for one another. Valerian took half the dominion fleet, Arcturus got pissed, some how i get the feeling that Blizzard will pull a Harry Potter, neither can live while the other survives.
It doesn't help that even Kate Lockwell, (a supposedly un-prejudiced UNN reporter) thinks that Arcturus is a piece of shit. Valerian will win because he has the support of the general public, and once he exposes that his father was using senseless propaganda, coupled with unrelenting attempted control over the sector. Raynor and his group will go free, (at least mostly) the zerg will be in utter disarray, and the protoss must fight the new threat, the hybrids.
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Is it just me that find him to be a completly pointless character and the story could have been pretty much the exact same thing without him. Oh yay ,someone from Raynors past to flesh out the character more. Oh no wait, he's just comic relief. Oh he is working for Duran, that means he is the bad guy, hooray. How early can you go and take the mission where it's shoved in your face that he really works for Duran? like 4? Have you noticed how many people end up with a bullet in their brain after working with that guy.
Oh lord the campaign in this game is so stupid compared to SC and BW. BAH. So anyone that thinks "oh they might ress him", all I can ask is: Why? He didn't bring anything to the plot, he didn't do anything through out the entire game except being a comic relief guy and acting as a stereotypical marine.
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Blank wrote on August 11
Throughout the campaign, Tychus is genuinely disturbed by the notion of infested marines. I believe this is simple foreshadowing at work. If Blizzard decides to bring him back, which is most likely since they invested so much time into his character, he will probably be infested, just like Stukov. (Removed yes, but Tychus could be the curve ball here.)
In the colonist mission where infested marines show, Tychus says, after seeing them,
"Infested M'rines? Aww, hell Jimmy ah don't care for that notion oooonne bit."
WTF
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On August 11 2010 00:22 dybydx wrote:
someone pointed out that they also told us Tassadar was dead since Broodwar but then in WoL he claims he never tasted death.
so ya, his death is not certain despite what the epilogue says.
My impression was he just turned into a force ghost. Somehow... Blizzard has been getting this nasty habit of resurrecting characters lately. I blame WoW.
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On August 11 2010 11:13 Tamburlaine wrote:Lore Nerd ENGAGE! Zealots are Templar. Dragoons (being wounded zealots) are also Templar. So are scouts pilots, carrier pilots, high templar (of course), and all executor. Templar just means "warrior caste" for protoss. If memory serves, the only non-templar units (discounting the tricky issue of Dark Templar) are the various robots and the arbiters, who I'm pretty sure were Judicator ("ruling caste", though the only plot-relevant Judicator, Aldaris, was depicted as a high templar because... well, because). [/pedantry]
His ingame unit is based off a high templar. He is not a high templar though.
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The Zerg do not have a "leader" at the moment... overmind - dead, kerrigan - out of order...
it would be cool if an infested tychus could fill that gap... At least he was the most interesting character in WoL (for my taste)... would be just strange if blizzard invested so much into him and then not even give him a proper funeral...
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i Just found in a latin dictionary that Tychus means "absolute ruler" ... now thats interesting
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if tychus takes over the swarm I'll jump out of a window.
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Answer, it's a video game, suspend belief.
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I think and hope Tychus is dead for good.
What i hope is Tassadar fooled everyone and it is taking the swarm over!!!
If this happens i will forgive Blizz for the zerg that we have now (lowest nr of units especially and no lurker or other hidden unit)
PS: i do not have the game yet so PM if you have a spare guest pass :-D Thanks!
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