On August 11 2010 00:22 dybydx wrote: someone pointed out that they also told us Tassadar was dead since Broodwar but then in WoL he claims he never tasted death.
so ya, his death is not certain despite what the epilogue says.
On August 11 2010 00:22 dybydx wrote: someone pointed out that they also told us Tassadar was dead since Broodwar but then in WoL he claims he never tasted death.
so ya, his death is not certain despite what the epilogue says.
Oh no. Undead Tychus?
well fenix, kerrigain, tassadar, and stukov "came back from the dead", so why not? In fact, do any of them stay dead?
On June 07 2011 00:59 DocNemesis wrote: Well, DuGaulle is dead. I doubt HE will be brought back to life anytime soon. Then again, he isn't much of an important character per se.
DuGaulle also blew up in a Battlecruiser in space, after shooting himself in the head. I doubt there was much to recover there. You're right too, he didn't serve the overall plot very much. (i.e. with him dead, the UED is no longer a threat an the Terran Campaign in Brood War was merely an aside)
I think though that this is a major flaw in stories where people can cheat death by becoming some form of undead: How dead do you have to be before you can't be brought back?
In any story where the form of undeath is biological (Flood, T-Virus, Zerg Infestation) that line should be pretty clearly drawn to prevent confusion and also allow for death to hold some permanence when it needs to (i.e. in Battlestar Galactica when the Cylons couldn't resurrect, you knew death was a big deal). At least I thought that the Zerg required you to be alive at least a little bit in order to infest you.
Death should be more of a big deal in fiction, especially video games where writers kill its significance with ass-pulls in order to make the plot function at all.
On August 11 2010 00:22 dybydx wrote: someone pointed out that they also told us Tassadar was dead since Broodwar but then in WoL he claims he never tasted death.
so ya, his death is not certain despite what the epilogue says.
Oh no. Undead Tychus?
well fenix, kerrigain, tassadar, and stukov "came back from the dead", so why not? In fact, do any of them stay dead?
You could make a case for Tassadar's "revival" being covered by the lore. Like Adun, he channeled both the khala and void energies—when Adun did it to shroud the dark templar, he disappeared after something similar to Tassadar's exit. Not to say that Adun is alive, or that it was specifically stated that they hadn't died, but there's enough wiggle room for plausibility.
Knowing how stories generally go he probably just shot the gun out of his hands or something. We never actually saw him die, or even get shot. We only saw him get shot at.
On June 07 2011 15:14 lachy89 wrote: Did we actually see Raynor shoot Tychus?
Knowing how stories generally go he probably just shot the gun out of his hands or something. We never actually saw him die, or even get shot. We only saw him get shot at.
It says in the post campaign blurb "Tychus is dead" pretty specifically.
That's DuGalle, not Gaulle. De Gaulle is our real-life WW2 hero here in France.
I think though that this is a major flaw in stories where people can cheat death by becoming some form of undead: How dead do you have to be before you can't be brought back?
In any story where the form of undeath is biological (Flood, T-Virus, Zerg Infestation) that line should be pretty clearly drawn to prevent confusion and also allow for death to hold some permanence when it needs to (i.e. in Battlestar Galactica when the Cylons couldn't resurrect, you knew death was a big deal). At least I thought that the Zerg required you to be alive at least a little bit in order to infest you.
This is exactly what bothers me. A lot. Fenix returning as a dragoon was fine: since a dragoon can't help a dead person, you can't bring Raszagal or Aldaris back with the same trick. If you want to kill a protoss, check if he's dead, and finish him if he's not. Besides, the dragoons existed before Fenix's death, and there were thousands of them around. But any character could be brought back in a Stukov style - thankfully this retcon isn't mentionned when Hanson and Selendis argue about curing infested terrans, and I hope it never will.
In my opinion, a story in which all characters can go back to life if they are popular is plain boring. Why should I care about characters that cannot be killed, even when they die? I mean yes, Raynor was very unlikely to die because he was the Relatable Guy of the original Starcraft. But Fenix still died in Brood War, so you couldn't be completely sure of that.
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