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On August 15 2010 15:17 .ImpacT. wrote:
Tychus Findlay was "good at heart". He knew Raynor always carried his pistol (he saw it on multiple occasions, one of them being when the Hyperion was docking with the 'Mobeius" ship.
The REASON why Tychus made such a production was to TELL Jim that he had to kill him (Jim kill Tychus). Tychus knew he was dead either way - Mengsk would kill him if he didn't kill Kerrigan, so he made a HUGE production out of it to try to tell Jim indirectly that it wasn't HIS fault, hence the "I made a deal with the Devil." he also tried to start a coup against Raynor - likely to try to stop the Char invasion-plan so it didn't come down to him having to choose. After all that they had been through together, I don't believe that Tychus could have betrayed Raynor. He was self-centered, but had shown numerous times to be one of Jim's closest allies.
Just my two cents.
It almost makes me feel sad for the ol' bastard. 
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I've said it before, and I'll gladly say it again - Tychus is probably my favorite character in Sc2 (because of how complex he is.) and is really one of the most loyal and "good" characters in the game, it's just shown in a light that many people take as selfishness or 'evil'.
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On August 15 2010 16:42 .ImpacT. wrote:
I've said it before, and I'll gladly say it again - Tychus is probably my favorite character in Sc2 (because of how complex he is.) and is really one of the most loyal and "good" characters in the game, it's just shown in a light that many people take as selfishness or 'evil'.
Most people relate selfishness to actions such as:
-Betraying one of your friends for your own gains
-Trying to kill someone your friend is saving for your own gains
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BIG EDIT..
Tychus was forced into a contract to monitor Raynor's expedition of collecting the Xel'Naga artifacts. Either Mengsk knew that would lead them to Kerrigan or he was just hoping a little fools luck would turn the tide at some point during the Zerg invasion. The most mysterious of things is when Mengsk found out that half of his forces were assaulting Char that it seemed that he had no idea that would be the way Tychus would get his sights onto Kerrigan to seal the deal.
Its clear that the Mobeius Foundation was contracted via Mengsk's son, Valerian, which relayed missions to Tychus that would lead Raynor to Kerrigan. Either Arcturus wasn't banking on Raynor making a trip to Char to have the final showdown with Kerrigan or Mengsk was secretly allowing Valerian to use the Mobeiuis Foundation inunicen with Tychus in order to get to Raynor/Kerrigan.
Its very possible that Samir Duran (or I'd like to say, The Great Hungerer), is pulling many strings from afar. If indeed Dr. Narud is Duran, as a shape-shifter, I'd say that there are even more possibilities that can factor into the story than we could possibly figure. I wouldn't be surprised if canon campaigns like the Enslavers: Dark Vengeance featured Duran as another character. I suspected since the debate about Dr. Narud, that Ulrezaj, now a Dark Archon, is Duran. It is interesting to know that like the Hybrid, Ulrezaj sought out Preservers as well...
Lets not forget the bonus mission where Raynor confronted the first 'man-made' Hybrid on a Dominion Space station. Either Arcturus was already made aware of the Xel'Naga/Hybrid or Duran is pulling some serious strings in the Koprulu Sector to enhance the cycle of the Xel'Naga.
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Why was he in the game again?
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I really really disliked the whole treason thing.
There's obviously a traitor, it wouldnt be fun without it, but screw suspitions, we have Tosh who tells us that we indeed have someone working for Mengsk. There arent many characters, and if we exclude the one who states this, Tosh, we pretty much end up with Matt and Tychus, and the pick is obvious. Now if it wouldnt be, we, again, have Tosh who tells us to not trust Tychus, and he is dangerous, at least 3 times. And OMFG at the end when there's 1 minute left of the game, and we know there's a traitor, Tychus reveals himself.
hand up who were surprised/shocked/thrilled by this incredible turn of events.
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my thoughts are that tychus wanted to be killed my jim since he knew he was a dead man from the start. he promised mensk to him so he could infact help jim and after helping his buddy just die by him
kinda bad english there ;;D
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On August 10 2010 20:31 weltraumMonster wrote:
Did Raynor really kill him?
- We didnt see his corpse...
He's dead bro, its in the epilogue.
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On August 15 2010 17:23 Wolf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2010 16:42 .ImpacT. wrote:
I've said it before, and I'll gladly say it again - Tychus is probably my favorite character in Sc2 (because of how complex he is.) and is really one of the most loyal and "good" characters in the game, it's just shown in a light that many people take as selfishness or 'evil'. Most people relate selfishness to actions such as: -Betraying one of your friends for your own gains -Trying to kill someone your friend is saving for your own gains
It WASNT for his own gains, he knew he was dead either way. He just wanted to let Jim know that it wasn't his fault. Do you think Mengsk would REALLY have let him live, either way?
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Raynor's pistol have any back story? Did he ever fire it in the original campaign? Recover the last remnant of protoss ballistic technology and decide "Damn, pretty lucky protoss bullets from two million years ago fit into terran revolvers! I'm going to use this magic bullet to shoot Mengsk some day." It's totally an explosive plasma round, incinerated Tychus's suit and ran out of steam at the skin.
Also, infested Tychus for swarm boss is bullshit, there was never even the slightest hint of the psionic ability required to control zerg.
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I feel like Tychus did not really want to have to kill Kerrigan, and for that reason, try to start a coup. He knew he had no choice in the matter, so if the crew were to go down to Char, he knows at that point Jim would have to make the choice: him or Kerrigan, which he knew would definitely be her. That's probably why he was always trying to convince Jimmy that she was beyond saving and what not. So the closer they got to Char, the more antsy he was getting.
As for all the conspiracy stuff with the Mensk family, i have no clue.
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On August 16 2010 02:59 Spaceninja wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2010 20:31 weltraumMonster wrote:
Did Raynor really kill him?
- We didnt see his corpse... He's dead bro, its in the epilogue.
what epilogue?
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The epilogue you can read once you beat the campaign.. at the single player menu.
NastyMarine: Ulrezaj was seven dark templar. None of them were Duran else he would cease is eons of existence and relevance to the plot. This is because Ulrezaj is trapped in a fucking crystal in the back ass end of Protoss space.
9/10ths of the posts here are overcomplicating the hell out of what happened. Raynor killed Tychus. Tychus is dead.
Tychus is Dead
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On August 16 2010 22:08 h2 wrote:
Raynor's pistol have any back story? Did he ever fire it in the original campaign? Recover the last remnant of protoss ballistic technology and decide "Damn, pretty lucky protoss bullets from two million years ago fit into terran revolvers! I'm going to use this magic bullet to shoot Mengsk some day." It's totally an explosive plasma round, incinerated Tychus's suit and ran out of steam at the skin.
Also, infested Tychus for swarm boss is bullshit, there was never even the slightest hint of the psionic ability required to control zerg.
Lol interestingly, Raynor also shot the TV with the revolver and was gonna shoot Tychus before he revealed himself. Yet, the revolver was portrayed with only 1 bullet, and that bullet was supposed to be something special... Does Raynor only keep 1 bullet in the gun just for kicks?
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On August 17 2010 02:44 Probe1 wrote:
The epilogue you can read once you beat the campaign.. at the single player menu.
NastyMarine: Ulrezaj was seven dark templar. None of them were Duran else he would cease is eons of existence and relevance to the plot. This is because Ulrezaj is trapped in a fucking crystal in the back ass end of Protoss space.
9/10ths of the posts here are overcomplicating the hell out of what happened. Raynor killed Tychus. Tychus is dead.
Tychus is Dead
There's no complication. Blizzard routinely brings people back from "the dead". We didn't see Tychus's body and therefore, assuming he's dead (especially considering Blizzard's past performance with icons like Fenix, Stukov, Tassadar, Kerrigan, etc.) takes just as much faith as saying he's alive. I mean, for cry'n out loud, Stukov exploded in a puddle of Ghost blood on your screen during the Brood War mission, but that didn't stop him from "just being shot" and later "infested".
Also, the epilogue is the weakest pieces of evidence for Tychus's death and further proves the point that he may be alive. The epilogue of the mission in SC said Fenix was dead, but he wasn't. The mission following Kerrigan being left to the Swarm has Raynor saying that she was "sacrificed", i.e., dead, but she wasn't. The BW epilogue/cinimatic showed Stukov as dead, but he wasn't. The epilogue of the SC protoss campaign said Tassadar was dead, but as of WoL, he "has never tasted death", i.e., he wasn't.
I don't see how you think people are complicating the information. All the information points to a very real possibility that Tychus is alive and/or seen again in some fashion.
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Tychus at least from the way they say it took the blame for his and Raynor's crimes by his own free will(at least it seems implied to me). Tychus obviously wants Jim to find out that he is working for Mengsk so that he won't have to kill kerrigan or anyone else(Tychus while selfish at heart does seem to have a strong sense of loyalty to those around him).
At the end he even lets Raynor see the laser sight for about three seconds and lets him talk before firing one round. If he really wanted to he could have gone full auto and just sprayed Kerrigan and Raynor down. Tychus kind of was an unimportant character but he was at least interesting in his motivational clash.
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I'm glad he + Show Spoiler +. It still annoys me that Protoss and Zerg have -AMAZING- looking race pictures at race selection screen, and Terran is a bland picture of that asshole.
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On August 15 2010 07:32 Jyvblamo wrote:Given how often this game seems to like bringing back supposedly 'dead' characters + Show Spoiler +*cough kerrigan tassadar fenix overmind stukov etc* , I wouldn't put it past Blizzard to bring Tychus back. It would be stupid, but they might do it... + Show Spoiler +
Kerrigan: Captured and infested.
Fenix: It is common lore that all dragoons are just injured Protoss soldiers that have had their bodies transplanted into a dragoon exoskeleton.
Overmind: A new one was formed by merging several cerebrates. *This is not a resurrection.* It never reached maturity IIRC, as it was killed.
I give you Tassadar, which was a huge cliche, and Stukov, which was just dumb IMHO. But the others either have reasonable explanations (Fenix) or were never dead (Kerrigan). Or were never actually resurrected (Overmind).
That being said, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I wouldn't put it past Blizzard to resurrect Tychus, and I have a terrible feeling that they will - despite its impossibilities.
Blizzard's favorite words: Plothole, and retcon 
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On August 15 2010 17:31 NastyMarine wrote:
Either Arcturus was already made aware of the Xel'Naga/Hybrid or Duran is pulling some serious strings in the Koprulu Sector to enhance the cycle of the Xel'Naga.
What Duran is doing is not the cycle of the Xel'Naga. He is creating artificial hybrids for the enemy of the Xel'Naga.
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If Tychus is indeed dead (and it seems that, logically, he should be), doesn't that seem like he hasn't really been around in the StarCraft world long enough? I feel like Blizzard would have the tendency to make his type of character reappear, because he was so close to Raynor.
Whether it's cliche or a stupid idea is another thing, but... based on what Blizzard has been doing with previous characters, it seems like Blizzard will bring him back in one of the other two SC2 games. That's just my opinion.
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