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Mbappe instead of Griezmann as captain is really strange isnt it?
Griezmann might be a controversial character but he has been nothing but patriotic for the French national team. He plays every single match, plays all sorts of positions, runs like a madman always, never complains.
I dont think there ever has been someone more motivated as he was for a national team
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On March 24 2023 18:46 sharkie wrote: I have always considered Tuchel the German Guardiola - I cant see how he can work with Bayern bosses long-term.
Tuchel is totally a short-term solution and firing Nagelsmann goes against everything they had planned with him. Bayern even paid tons of money to get Nagelsmann I don't think Tuchel is planned as short term solution. They probably would not have sacked nagelsmann if he wasn't available. As long as he delivers the necessary level of success I do not see a problem.
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Tuchel is great, he liked it at Chelsea when he had Cech to talk to and Marina sometimes came to him as well, soon as those two left he had to deal directly with Todd and it all went very wrong very fast. Up until that point he was fine with the club and the hierarchy as they were doing the buying and he was consulting to Cech what he wanted and Cech reported back.
I am now scared Bayern are going to be very good very quickly in the champs league. If he can work his magic he can make that 3-4-3 look very good. Wingbacks of Cancelo and Davies wingbacks, with Mane, Musiala and Coman as the front 3 would be crazy.
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You two dont have any idea of Tuchel. Also Bayern was already very good in the champions league
Bayern paid 25mil for Nagelsmann and are going to pay him wages till 2026 - this is not how Bayern operate, wasting 70mil on a trainer they didnt want. This is some harakiri and Tuchel is totally short term solution
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given his sacking, spurs are immediately targeting nagelsmann to replace conte.
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Charlie Sheens House51456 Posts
On March 25 2023 05:06 sharkie wrote: You two dont have any idea of Tuchel. Also Bayern was already very good in the champions league
Bayern paid 25mil for Nagelsmann and are going to pay him wages till 2026 - this is not how Bayern operate, wasting 70mil on a trainer they didnt want. This is some harakiri and Tuchel is totally short term solution No i have no idea, guy just ran my club in the worst time in its entire history, probably worse than after Matthew Harding died and when we were playing division 2, at least were not being foreclosed upon then....
Tuchel was doing all what i said he was doing and was happy, its even in multiple articles, he wanted to stay, but when Cech and Marina left and he had to deal in transfers and directly with the owner it went wrong, which is understandable, he also until February had us more points than Potter at that season and it still might be seen as one of the worst firings ever
On March 25 2023 06:25 GTR wrote: given his sacking, spurs are immediately targeting nagelsmann to replace conte.
Think he too big for Spurs, he is very good friends with Christoper Vivell our new sporting director, so i can see Potter getting pushed out if things don't pick up by the end of the season and then him coming into that spot.
I could even see him at Real Madrid replacing Ancelotti.
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What a bizarre decision. I'm guessing Nagelsmann must've really ruffled more than feathers at the top. His record for Bayern so far is not great but still respectable by their high standards. The crazy part is sacking him mid-season just before two vital games in Bundesliga (vs Dortmund) and Champions League (vs Man City).
More bizarre is hiring Tuchel, who tends to struggle with relations with Board and dressing room. His tactical masterclass is undeniable. Just hard to see him fitting into the Bayern shark tank. His appointment is, of course, understandable as there are no other better alternatives.
Overall, the timing of the managerial switch just seems a desperation move driven by personal reasons.
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On March 25 2023 12:58 RKC wrote: What a bizarre decision. I'm guessing Nagelsmann must've really ruffled more than feathers at the top. His record for Bayern so far is not great but still respectable by their high standards. The crazy part is sacking him mid-season just before two vital games in Bundesliga (vs Dortmund) and Champions League (vs Man City).
More bizarre is hiring Tuchel, who tends to struggle with relations with Board and dressing room. His tactical masterclass is undeniable. Just hard to see him fitting into the Bayern shark tank. His appointment is, of course, understandable as there are no other better alternatives.
Overall, the timing of the managerial switch just seems a desperation move driven by personal reasons. Bayerns results in the Bundesliga 2023 are absolutely terrible for their standards. Not at all respectable. And the games they won usually weren't convincing either. Do not let the Champions League performance against that clown club PSG cloud your judgement.
If you want to change something then now is the time and Tuchel is the coach to get for that. Otherwise you might aswell just let Nagelsmann finish the season. Firing him after a Champions League exit or getting behind further in the league makes no sense.
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In the national league this season where Ryan Reynolds' Wrexham play, they and Notts County are both going to beat 100 points. Imagine getting over 100 points in a season and not finishing first. One of those teams will still have to go through the playoffs to win promotion!
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Norway28600 Posts
EC qualifications starting for Norway now. Opening away vs Spain and Haaland is injured. Not optimistic, but we also don't need any points from this game, so mostly hoping for a good performance. Team looks good even without Haaland, goalie is a weak point but everything else pretty solid.
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Well we're losing 0-3 but honestly it's been a great performance where if you look solely at the 65 minute period between 15 and 80 minutes then Norway has been the better team. Obviously irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, but this is Norway playing on away field vs Spain. If we got a lucky win after defending well and being efficient, I could have seen that coming, but to actually feel like we deserved a point because we've been playing an even game, that I did not envision.
So I'm actually pretty happy. If we keep playing like this and Haaland gets healthy then we are getting top 2 for sure.
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Indeed, but that refereeing was awful. Three separate free kicks where a Spaniard just lies down
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Ya, I'm not sure about the rules tbh but all pundits agree we should've had a penalty too.
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Spain v Norway was a fun and open game. Score is deceiving, really a close game. If Haaland had played, Norway could've even nicked it. A lot for Norway fans to be positive about despite the scoreline!
As a Spain fan, this match was refreshing to watch. New manager, new direct football approach. Definitely harkens back to good 'ol matador YOLO style of Spain in the 90s and early 2000s. Yay, no more tiki taka, joga boito is back!
But wait! Against a superior side, Spain would've been eviscerated and lost. Spain just doesn't have the best world quality in defence and goalkeeping (loving the Kepa switch, but he's not exactly paragon of consistency and stability). The match only strengthens my belief that possession football is the only way that Spain can compete at the highest level (at least, with this current generation of players). Yeah, I know someone is going to chime in random mantras like "attack is the best defence", "defence is the best defence" yada yada. But the reality is that football is won and lost in the midfield, the middle of the park. And controlling the midfield is what Spain excels in both attacking (building play to the final third) and defence (keeping opponent players away from the other final third).
That said, I'm excited for Fuente to experiment new tactics and players. But I just hope that he doesn't get carried away trying to reinvent the wheel. Will be interesting how he sets up the squad once Pedri is back from injury. Pedri is really the top 3 best midfielder in the world right now - he can play from deep, control the tempo, and create and score goals.
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What happened in Kazakhstan today? I thought Denmark was supposed to waltz into a group win without any losses, possibly even no points dropped.
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All because of a press conference? How bad was it to be fired...?
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Tottenham is dropping Conte! Nagelsmann could step in?
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I think Stellini (Conte's assistant) is going to be interim until the end of the season.
My prediction is that
Ancelotti -> Brazil Nagelsmann -> Real Madrid Pochettino -> Spurs
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contes last few press conferences made it pretty clear to me that he was asking to be sacked.
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On March 25 2023 12:58 RKC wrote: What a bizarre decision. I'm guessing Nagelsmann must've really ruffled more than feathers at the top. His record for Bayern so far is not great but still respectable by their high standards. The crazy part is sacking him mid-season just before two vital games in Bundesliga (vs Dortmund) and Champions League (vs Man City).
More bizarre is hiring Tuchel, who tends to struggle with relations with Board and dressing room. His tactical masterclass is undeniable. Just hard to see him fitting into the Bayern shark tank. His appointment is, of course, understandable as there are no other better alternatives.
Overall, the timing of the managerial switch just seems a desperation move driven by personal reasons.
You have the timings all wrong. They made a contract with Tuchel and then pushed Nagelsmann out, not the other way around. They wanted Tuchel for years now, even before Nagelsmann.
I can see Nagelsmann at Real Madrid, can't really see him with the Spurs. Also, I think starting a new job a week later is not healthy. He needs a bit of time to reflect and get in a new headspace.
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