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MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
December 23 2013 05:09 GMT
#2601
Bring it home CP. Bring it home!
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13497 Posts
December 23 2013 05:11 GMT
#2602
You watch a game like this and wonder why the wolves are doing relatively poorly. Then the last minute happens and it makes sense.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
kidleaderr
Profile Joined April 2013
368 Posts
December 23 2013 05:18 GMT
#2603
i wonder what love is thinking right now
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13497 Posts
December 23 2013 05:25 GMT
#2604
How he'll look in a Lakers uniform?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
December 23 2013 05:31 GMT
#2605
Man did the TWolves screw the pooch this game. Come to LAL Love.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 23 2013 05:32 GMT
#2606
Can't fucking stand the clippers. goddamnit.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
December 23 2013 06:30 GMT
#2607
Cccllliipppaazz
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
December 23 2013 06:35 GMT
#2608
I've got to say that I've been really impressed with Blake this season. He has a much more polished and well-rounded game, and his defense has improved significantly.
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
December 23 2013 08:34 GMT
#2609
Kevin Love such a monster, but Martin why why... why
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
December 23 2013 08:49 GMT
#2610
On December 23 2013 14:11 RowdierBob wrote:
You watch a game like this and wonder why the wolves are doing relatively poorly. Then the last minute happens and it makes sense.

i didnt watch the game but i watched the highlights. wtf on the last play of 1st overtime...
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13497 Posts
December 23 2013 09:00 GMT
#2611
On December 23 2013 15:35 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
I've got to say that I've been really impressed with Blake this season. He has a much more polished and well-rounded game, and his defense has improved significantly.


Didn't K Love just drop 43 on him?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
December 23 2013 09:50 GMT
#2612
On December 23 2013 18:00 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 15:35 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
I've got to say that I've been really impressed with Blake this season. He has a much more polished and well-rounded game, and his defense has improved significantly.


Didn't K Love just drop 43 on him?


I said improved, and we all know that's relative Plus, KLove is a pretty tough assignment for any player to guard, let alone one who had to do so much on offense for most of the game.
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13497 Posts
December 23 2013 22:23 GMT
#2613
So has anyone read about the NBA's supposed plan to eliminate tanking: "The WHEEL!"

I swear they purposely give these assignments to the work experience kid just so they can whip up some controversey (and mugs like me fall for it):

Grantland obtained a copy of the proposal, which would eliminate the draft lottery entirely and replace it with a system in which each of the 30 teams would pick in a specific first-round draft slot once — and exactly once — every 30 years. Each team would simply cycle through the 30 draft slots, year by year, in a predetermined order designed so that teams pick in different areas of the draft each year. Teams would know with 100 percent certainty in which draft slots they would pick every year, up to 30 years out from the start of every 30-year cycle. The practice of protecting picks would disappear; there would never be a Harrison Barnes–Golden State situation again, and it wouldn’t require a law degree to track ownership of every traded pick leaguewide.


So at first glance:

* What top prospect isn't going to return for their Sophmore year if they can play for Chicago instead of say Milwaukee?
* It blows complete goat if you're stuck with a shitty year for talent (related to the above). It's great if you've got a #1 in the upcoming draft but what if it was your turn in last year's draft? Lame.
* How confident is the NBA that the league won't expand or contract in the next 30 years?! That's just going to muck things up deluxe.

I'm all for doing something about tanking (although it's somewhat overblown) and reincentivising winning for non-contending teams but this would be a terrible idea.


"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-23 22:55:22
December 23 2013 22:54 GMT
#2614
On December 24 2013 07:23 RowdierBob wrote:
So has anyone read about the NBA's supposed plan to eliminate tanking: "The WHEEL!"

I swear they purposely give these assignments to the work experience kid just so they can whip up some controversey (and mugs like me fall for it):

Show nested quote +
Grantland obtained a copy of the proposal, which would eliminate the draft lottery entirely and replace it with a system in which each of the 30 teams would pick in a specific first-round draft slot once — and exactly once — every 30 years. Each team would simply cycle through the 30 draft slots, year by year, in a predetermined order designed so that teams pick in different areas of the draft each year. Teams would know with 100 percent certainty in which draft slots they would pick every year, up to 30 years out from the start of every 30-year cycle. The practice of protecting picks would disappear; there would never be a Harrison Barnes–Golden State situation again, and it wouldn’t require a law degree to track ownership of every traded pick leaguewide.


So at first glance:

* What top prospect isn't going to return for their Sophmore year if they can play for Chicago instead of say Milwaukee?
* It blows complete goat if you're stuck with a shitty year for talent (related to the above). It's great if you've got a #1 in the upcoming draft but what if it was your turn in last year's draft? Lame.
* How confident is the NBA that the league won't expand or contract in the next 30 years?! That's just going to muck things up deluxe.

I'm all for doing something about tanking (although it's somewhat overblown) and reincentivising winning for non-contending teams but this would be a terrible idea.



Can someone explain to me what was the Harrison Barnes-Golden State situation? I tried doing a quick search, but no articles appeared explaining the situation. Did he stay in school an extra year, or did he not try hard enough so that teams would avoid picking him early, and landing him in Golden State?

How would this plan would be implemented? It requires that all transactions with First-Round Picks be stopped before the wheel begins. Good luck with that since almost every trade usually includes First Rounders, especially Sign and Trades. How are teams going to improve themselves if there is a moratorium on trading picks?
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 23 2013 23:12 GMT
#2615
@Bob: The NBA would be fucking morons to do that. Hope it goes through so we can get more Magic Johnson type situations where people delay coming out if they don't get their choice of team.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13497 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-23 23:29:15
December 23 2013 23:28 GMT
#2616
On December 24 2013 07:54 Phelix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 07:23 RowdierBob wrote:
So has anyone read about the NBA's supposed plan to eliminate tanking: "The WHEEL!"

I swear they purposely give these assignments to the work experience kid just so they can whip up some controversey (and mugs like me fall for it):

Grantland obtained a copy of the proposal, which would eliminate the draft lottery entirely and replace it with a system in which each of the 30 teams would pick in a specific first-round draft slot once — and exactly once — every 30 years. Each team would simply cycle through the 30 draft slots, year by year, in a predetermined order designed so that teams pick in different areas of the draft each year. Teams would know with 100 percent certainty in which draft slots they would pick every year, up to 30 years out from the start of every 30-year cycle. The practice of protecting picks would disappear; there would never be a Harrison Barnes–Golden State situation again, and it wouldn’t require a law degree to track ownership of every traded pick leaguewide.


So at first glance:

* What top prospect isn't going to return for their Sophmore year if they can play for Chicago instead of say Milwaukee?
* It blows complete goat if you're stuck with a shitty year for talent (related to the above). It's great if you've got a #1 in the upcoming draft but what if it was your turn in last year's draft? Lame.
* How confident is the NBA that the league won't expand or contract in the next 30 years?! That's just going to muck things up deluxe.

I'm all for doing something about tanking (although it's somewhat overblown) and reincentivising winning for non-contending teams but this would be a terrible idea.



Can someone explain to me what was the Harrison Barnes-Golden State situation? I tried doing a quick search, but no articles appeared explaining the situation. Did he stay in school an extra year, or did he not try hard enough so that teams would avoid picking him early, and landing him in Golden State?

How would this plan would be implemented? It requires that all transactions with First-Round Picks be stopped before the wheel begins. Good luck with that since almost every trade usually includes First Rounders, especially Sign and Trades. How are teams going to improve themselves if there is a moratorium on trading picks?


A couple of years back they traded their pick to Utah (but it was top 7 protected). About half way through the year the Dubs were about .500 (and projected around the 14th or so pick) and traded Monta to the Bucks for Bogut (who was injured at the time and was not due back until the next year).

Curry also went down with an ankle injury the same time. They shut Curry down for the year and David Lee had a "mysterious" knee injury around the same time that put him out for the year. They proceeded to run a D-League team for the rest of the season and went something like 5-30 to finish the year and keep their top 7 protected pick. It was a pretty epic (and very obvious) tank job.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
December 23 2013 23:42 GMT
#2617
On December 24 2013 08:28 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 07:54 Phelix wrote:
On December 24 2013 07:23 RowdierBob wrote:
So has anyone read about the NBA's supposed plan to eliminate tanking: "The WHEEL!"

I swear they purposely give these assignments to the work experience kid just so they can whip up some controversey (and mugs like me fall for it):

Grantland obtained a copy of the proposal, which would eliminate the draft lottery entirely and replace it with a system in which each of the 30 teams would pick in a specific first-round draft slot once — and exactly once — every 30 years. Each team would simply cycle through the 30 draft slots, year by year, in a predetermined order designed so that teams pick in different areas of the draft each year. Teams would know with 100 percent certainty in which draft slots they would pick every year, up to 30 years out from the start of every 30-year cycle. The practice of protecting picks would disappear; there would never be a Harrison Barnes–Golden State situation again, and it wouldn’t require a law degree to track ownership of every traded pick leaguewide.


So at first glance:

* What top prospect isn't going to return for their Sophmore year if they can play for Chicago instead of say Milwaukee?
* It blows complete goat if you're stuck with a shitty year for talent (related to the above). It's great if you've got a #1 in the upcoming draft but what if it was your turn in last year's draft? Lame.
* How confident is the NBA that the league won't expand or contract in the next 30 years?! That's just going to muck things up deluxe.

I'm all for doing something about tanking (although it's somewhat overblown) and reincentivising winning for non-contending teams but this would be a terrible idea.



Can someone explain to me what was the Harrison Barnes-Golden State situation? I tried doing a quick search, but no articles appeared explaining the situation. Did he stay in school an extra year, or did he not try hard enough so that teams would avoid picking him early, and landing him in Golden State?

How would this plan would be implemented? It requires that all transactions with First-Round Picks be stopped before the wheel begins. Good luck with that since almost every trade usually includes First Rounders, especially Sign and Trades. How are teams going to improve themselves if there is a moratorium on trading picks?


A couple of years back they traded their pick to Utah (but it was top 7 protected). About half way through the year the Dubs were about .500 (and projected around the 14th or so pick) and traded Monta to the Bucks for Bogut (who was injured at the time and was not due back until the next year).

Curry also went down with an ankle injury the same time. They shut Curry down for the year and David Lee had a "mysterious" knee injury around the same time that put him out for the year. They proceeded to run a D-League team for the rest of the season and went something like 5-30 to finish the year and keep their top 7 protected pick. It was a pretty epic (and very obvious) tank job.


For which, lo, Basketball Jehovah will smite them with more hamstring pulls and a first round playoff exit. Thus spaketh The Lord, your God.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13497 Posts
December 24 2013 00:10 GMT
#2618
And whateth will CP3's pennance be for all thy flippity flopping?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 24 2013 00:12 GMT
#2619
On December 24 2013 07:23 RowdierBob wrote:
So has anyone read about the NBA's supposed plan to eliminate tanking: "The WHEEL!"

I swear they purposely give these assignments to the work experience kid just so they can whip up some controversey (and mugs like me fall for it):

Show nested quote +
Grantland obtained a copy of the proposal, which would eliminate the draft lottery entirely and replace it with a system in which each of the 30 teams would pick in a specific first-round draft slot once — and exactly once — every 30 years. Each team would simply cycle through the 30 draft slots, year by year, in a predetermined order designed so that teams pick in different areas of the draft each year. Teams would know with 100 percent certainty in which draft slots they would pick every year, up to 30 years out from the start of every 30-year cycle. The practice of protecting picks would disappear; there would never be a Harrison Barnes–Golden State situation again, and it wouldn’t require a law degree to track ownership of every traded pick leaguewide.


So at first glance:

* What top prospect isn't going to return for their Sophmore year if they can play for Chicago instead of say Milwaukee?
* It blows complete goat if you're stuck with a shitty year for talent (related to the above). It's great if you've got a #1 in the upcoming draft but what if it was your turn in last year's draft? Lame.
* How confident is the NBA that the league won't expand or contract in the next 30 years?! That's just going to muck things up deluxe.

I'm all for doing something about tanking (although it's somewhat overblown) and reincentivising winning for non-contending teams but this would be a terrible idea.





Good, thank god if that happens. I think the draft should be eliminated, or the very least teams dont get more than 2-3 years of control. The system is so bogus towards elite players.
Freeeeeeedom
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13497 Posts
December 24 2013 00:36 GMT
#2620
You'd have to implement a hard cap if you did that.

I'm guessing you're a Lakers fan?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
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