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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
December 21 2013 06:33 GMT
#2561
On December 21 2013 15:20 Vindicare605 wrote:
[image loading]

Oh Pau I love you so much when you play well. Why must you be so inconsistent sometimes.

Same goes for you Nick Young.

I hate to say it (okay, that's a lie - I love saying it) but Kobe breaks that team atm. I mean, he tried to facilitate which was nice, but he was also trying to be a dominant ball handler and the attitude was just completely different.
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13430 Posts
December 21 2013 08:29 GMT
#2562
On December 21 2013 15:23 Jibba wrote:
That team is built around speed and aggressive PG play. I don't think Melo would fit into that at all, even if he were an efficient player. Sadly they could use someone like Drummond but THEY'LL NEVER GET HIM NO ONE WILL BACK AWAY. >:|

I think they've got a lot of options in the draft though. If not, Chandler Parsons would be another strong option. Maybe as a safety net get Danny Granger on the cheap. I don't think Gerald Green is a legit starter, he's a 6th man.

Also, it remains to be seen how much Markieff and his brother improve. It's possible he'll make it to near all-star level.


I dunno, his Denver teams of old played with a pretty good pace under Karl and Melo was better for it IMO. I think he's good enough to fit in with a quick team. The big issue is and always will be his ball dominance. Whether or not he could play more off the ball and let Dragic/Bled get him good looks would be the issue. It would be an intriguing team though.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
December 21 2013 08:54 GMT
#2563
On December 21 2013 15:33 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 15:20 Vindicare605 wrote:
[image loading]

Oh Pau I love you so much when you play well. Why must you be so inconsistent sometimes.

Same goes for you Nick Young.

I hate to say it (okay, that's a lie - I love saying it) but Kobe breaks that team atm. I mean, he tried to facilitate which was nice, but he was also trying to be a dominant ball handler and the attitude was just completely different.


It's a combination of things, Kobe coming back was always going to do things to the team chemistry even before he was assigned all of the primary ball handling duties due to the point guards being injured. It was just something that was going to have to happen before he would be fully integrated.

What made the game so fun tonight was how well both Young and Gasol played, and they have been amazingly inconsistent throughout the entire season (looking nearly worthless on bad nights and incredible on good nights) and that was the case long before Kobe came back into the line up.

When the team is playing well they are a joy to watch, when they aren't and the energy isn't there then it's much less so and that's going to be true with or without Kobe.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 09:07:08
December 21 2013 09:06 GMT
#2564
Gasol has been hobbled by nagging injuries. He is looking noticeably more nimble lately. Dunno how you could criticize their energy. Well they at least try really hard every single night. There are going to be nights when they are simply overmatched by better teams. They've done great so far as far as I'm concerned (without Kobe).
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 21 2013 09:54 GMT
#2565
Yep the Lakers have been over-performing I think; everyone expected them to be pretty trash but they put up a fight on most nights. They've had a few very close games (barely losing to Portland, losing to the Wizards by 2-3 points, etc)... they could easily be 17-9 rather than 13-13 if a few games had swung the other way. You also can't say much about Kobe playing only 5-6 games. They were always going to struggle when he came back into the lineup... he had no training camp or anything so there are two primary issues:

1) the current team is brand new (minus Gasol and Jordan Hill) and have been playing together for training camp + preseason + 20 games, and all of a sudden you're inserting a new guy to the lineup.. there will be struggles

2) Kobe isn't back in shape yet, would probably have taken him another 2-3 months to really get back into form.

I think the whole idea is for them to be in striking distance of the playoffs (around 7-9 seed) and by April, the team should be fully integrated and Kobe back in full game shape, and MAYBE they steal a round in the playoffs... that was basically the ultimate ceiling of this team. More unlikely now with Kobe missing 2 more months.


Anyway - I'm looking for a torrent of LA vs Blazers game 7 of the 2000 Western Conference Finals... anyone got a hook up?
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 10:44:16
December 21 2013 10:44 GMT
#2566
On December 21 2013 18:54 Xeris wrote:
Yep the Lakers have been over-performing I think; everyone expected them to be pretty trash but they put up a fight on most nights. They've had a few very close games (barely losing to Portland, losing to the Wizards by 2-3 points, etc)... they could easily be 17-9 rather than 13-13 if a few games had swung the other way. You also can't say much about Kobe playing only 5-6 games. They were always going to struggle when he came back into the lineup... he had no training camp or anything so there are two primary issues:

1) the current team is brand new (minus Gasol and Jordan Hill) and have been playing together for training camp + preseason + 20 games, and all of a sudden you're inserting a new guy to the lineup.. there will be struggles

2) Kobe isn't back in shape yet, would probably have taken him another 2-3 months to really get back into form.

I think the whole idea is for them to be in striking distance of the playoffs (around 7-9 seed) and by April, the team should be fully integrated and Kobe back in full game shape, and MAYBE they steal a round in the playoffs... that was basically the ultimate ceiling of this team. More unlikely now with Kobe missing 2 more months.


Anyway - I'm looking for a torrent of LA vs Blazers game 7 of the 2000 Western Conference Finals... anyone got a hook up?


It was on TWC Sportsnet the other day .



There's a 12 part Youtube video I found?
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 21 2013 10:52 GMT
#2567
I kind of like Nick Young despite my absolute loathing of the Lakers. It's funny watching someone flash between awesome and amazing fuck up so wildly.

Maybe that's why I like him. He's fun to watch but not so much so that the Lakers are gonna be good because of it.
Remember Violet.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 10:56:15
December 21 2013 10:54 GMT
#2568
I used to hate him because of his delusions of grandeur jacking up terrible stuff when he was on the wizards, but I just can't help liking him, he's too funny. Just the sight of him with one of those goofy looks makes me laugh, then randomly he'll do a 360 layup into the crowd for no logical reason.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
December 21 2013 16:33 GMT
#2569
+1 for Nick Young.

I am a fan of Sacre too. Sacre > Kaman for me at the C spot tbh. I am surprised no fellow Canadians here root for Robert Sacre actually tsk tsk.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
December 21 2013 18:22 GMT
#2570
He's a guard version of Javale McGee. I appreciate him for his comedy value, I would hate him if he played for my team though.
Decessus
Profile Joined November 2004
Brazil105 Posts
December 21 2013 21:04 GMT
#2571
Hey guys, I have a question about a rule:

Player A fakes a shot.
Player B, who is a foot bigger than A and is 5 feet on front of A, jumps trying to block it. He jumps with his legs slightly open, say a bit wider than shoulder-width.
Player A quickly gets back control of the ball and tries a bounce pass.
Ball hits the leg of player B. Consider player A didn't have the intention of throwing the ball on B's, he wanted the complete the pass.
Is it a kick ball violation?


Thanks in advance for your help ^_^
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
December 21 2013 21:18 GMT
#2572
If the ball accidentally strikes any part of the leg or foot it is not a violation.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
December 21 2013 22:19 GMT
#2573
brook lopez out for the year...ouch....big man with recurring leg injuries...sounds familiar
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
December 21 2013 22:28 GMT
#2574
I'm going to agree with Ace that the Suns should just keep acquiring good players with their assets as they become available. They could pull off what Houston did by constantly maintaining valuable assets like picks, players at good value, and cap space, and then jump in when a star player becomes disgruntled or a team looks to blow things up. They're actually in a better position than the Rockets because they have two potential Allstar level players in Dragic and Bledsoe (moreso the latter IMO), and some emerging talents at valuable positions (Morris twins as stretch-PF's and Plumlee as a rim protecting C). If those players continue to improve, they could become an attractive place for stars to go simply by being good and appearing to be only a star away from true contention.

I disagree that Melo isn't a "star", but it's easily arguable because everyone's opinion is different as to what that even means. However, I agree that Melo isn't a good fit for the Suns as a high usage, ball-dominant player. They'd be better off looking to acquire a star wing player in the Paul George mold, who can be effective while not dominating the ball and playing good defense, or a star PF/C as an upgrade to either the Morris twins or Plumlee. Love would be a great fit if Plumlee can develop into a solid defensive C.
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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
December 21 2013 22:34 GMT
#2575
I see this current Lakers squad (minus Kobe) as something like the Spurs when they rest their big 3. A bunch of solid role players who have talent but lack the consistency to be truly good, playing in an effective system that maximizes their talents. It's a credit to D'Antoni that he has been able to get so much out of so little, and also have the team playing as hard as it has.

As for Swaggy, you can't not love the guy since he's such a happy-go-lucky goofball. I think he's great and enjoyable when the Lakers are in their current state where there's no real expectation of success, but he'd probably be much more frustrating and get a lot more flack for his bad plays if there were actual expectations of success for the team.
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lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
December 21 2013 22:39 GMT
#2576
Vince Carter...
0 points and 6 Turnovers in 17 minutes

i think ESPN is looking for a new ANALyst, Vince.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
December 21 2013 22:43 GMT
#2577
Lebron and Wade videobombing Bosh.



That's why I don't think he's leaving. They enjoy eachother too much.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 22:46:28
December 21 2013 22:45 GMT
#2578
Great point about Swaggy Cyric.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
December 21 2013 22:58 GMT
#2579
Except Lakers don't have a Old Pop to discipline Nick Swaggy into a better player.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
December 21 2013 23:39 GMT
#2580
oh man. no lin and harden tonight either...going to be nasty...
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
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