2012 - 2013 Football Thread! - Page 370

On April 26 2013 21:20 Savage88 wrote:


He is 100% NOT going to Bayern this year! Only chance is that ManU/Chelsea makes a HUGE offer for him (30M+) and we sell him. But no way that we sell him to Bayern this year!

On April 26 2013 23:23 nitram wrote:

If bvb isn't in uncontrollable debt, will you leave the thread?

On April 26 2013 23:39 NuclearJudas wrote:
I can see Lewandowski going to City. They have the money to pull him loose and they'll want a forward for next season, I think.

Would love seeing him in Arsenal, but I don't think we'll drop the money required.

On April 26 2013 23:52 nitram wrote:

No offense, but Arsenal is a step down, no?
I only see him going to United, bayern and maybe city or madrid. But all those clubs already have a few strikers. Maybe there will be a swap deal?

On April 26 2013 23:49 nitram wrote:

So you still are absolutely clueless? Or a really bad troll? There was only the whole last 2 pages talking about it...

On April 27 2013 00:17 Salteador Neo wrote:
Going to chelsea, mancity or arsenal would be a step down for any Borussia player for sure.

But moneeh.

On April 27 2013 00:20 Pandemona wrote:


No the last two pages say Dortmund still have money troubles...Dortmund selling players, not having the revenue to support the big needs of being a top club these days. Someone already mentioned that the small €80million wage budget is a problem as they can't build a power house around that when you have the likes of Bayern Chelsea Barcelona Real Madrid Man Utd Man City PSG and to the extent Arsenal/Tottenham/Inter/Juventues/AC Milan. But still, you clearly are not understand the points in making.
Your telling me Dortmund are fine financially, and that clubs can run "fine" with debt. Which in a sense is true, but they cannot compete with the bigger teams with debt issues, hense this summer after Gotze and Lewandowski leave their will be two huge holes to fill and you wont have all that transfer money from sales to spend on replacements. Yes they are finishing in champions league spots for the last 3 seasons? (including this one) but they only competed for the first time in Europe this season. All be it they are doing it well and we have no idea what next season brings. But you cannot tell me a club can be ran on debt with FFP rules incoming and not the best revenue (which is excluding transfer fee's i believe!) can compete with the best in Europe. Or even Bayern who are just god like with their finances and have a huge stranglehold on German football. Don't understand where you see this going >.<



GTFO
How is it step down to Chelsea from Dortmund wtf? >.< fml

On April 27 2013 00:33 Stratos_speAr wrote:


First off, Dortmund won the CL in 97 and were competing consistently throughout the 90's.

Second, you are blatantly ignoring every piece of evidence that is presented to you. You are hell-bent on portraying BVB as having money problems when they don't. They are growing faster than any other club out there, don't have any more debt than any big club out there, and are making tons of money. Just because they can't throw money at the game and hope to win like Chelsea doesn't mean they have financial issues.

Finally, Chelsea would definitely be a step down. There's no guarantee that Chelsea is going to be competitive for any serious trophies next year. Unless the only thing you care about is money, why would you want to go to such a dysfunctional and self-destructive club with an owner that hurts his own club's chances at stability and competitiveness when you have several other clubs that are just as prestigious and competitive offering you great money?

On April 27 2013 00:49 Pandemona wrote:


Ermm?

Gz Dortmund have history...Liverpool Nottingham Forrest and Borussia Mönchengladbach have history of winning the biggest prize and being dominant.
After that spell in the 90s Dortmund nearly went bankrupt in the early 00s and have been slowly recovering from it as much as possible.
The chairman in place or the group in place (not sure what they call it in Germany) who control the finances are trying to make Dortmund stabilized and balancing the books as much as possible, hense the selling of players.
No i have looked at the evidence, many German posters have said Dortmund sell players because they need to keep on top of wage bills and finances. Thats the evidence i look for, people who actually live in the country of the team we are talking about, with their local press telling the stories every week.
Growing faster than any club out there? Are you kidding me? They climbed 5 places in the revenue league table produced by Deloitte last financial year 11-12. Putting them 11th with a revenue of 189 million. 15million above local rival Schalke but 6million short of Juventus in 10th. 134million short of Chelsea and 179million short of Bayern. I don't see any huge growth considering the season before you made 51million less. Chelsea grew by 73 million that season, and you just called us a smaller club >.<
Onto the Chelsea being a step down because of "stability?" we have arguably 3 of the hottest talents in Hazard Mata and Oscar as our attacking 3. Oscar and Hazard are 21 and 22 with Mata being 24, we have a bright future. Our club is making more and more money each season (Revenue) we made profits the last 2 financial years, even with spending 50million on one player. Our wage bill is being cut every year as we are becoming a more prestigious club people are just wanting to play as the opportunity to win trophies is always there. Chelsea were in 8 competitions this year, we have gone lost 3 finals, 1 semi final and are in control of another semi final looking for our 4th final of the year that is why people want to play for Chelsea. We are also about to set a record for the number of matches played in a season, we are currently at 62 matches with another 4 league games 1 semi final and possibly a final to go! 68 game season is pretty big for any club!