2012 - 2013 Football Thread! - Page 364

On April 25 2013 02:12 Stratos_speAr wrote:


I posted that almost a day ago in a discussion directly relating to the topic and you want to just throw your hat in the ring so many hours later just so you can insult me?

Who's being annoying again?

On April 24 2013 09:24 Stratos_speAr wrote:
The entire point is that selling out is a common occurrence in football and not in American sports. Transfers like that happen multiple times a transfer window. Also, half of the transfers that you mentioned weren't sellouts at all.

RVP was a sellout, but it only gives more weight to my point. The only people that were upset were Arsenal; the rest of the footballing world just went, "eh". And besides, it still isn't nearly as bad as the Goetze case.

A lot of German fans were pissed at Ozil leaving, but it's still even close to the same.

Kagawa wasn't some superstar that BVB poached; Kagawa was a young, up-and-coming talent with a lot of potential that BVB took and developed into a recognizable star in Europe. It was the same situation with Gundogan and Lewandowski. In fact, if you know your history, you would know that Dortmund wasn't a powerhouse in any sense when they acquired any of the players that they currently have; they went nearly bankrupt about a decade ago and prior to 2011 hadn't won anything in about a decade. They still aren't a financial powerhouse, having significantly less money than Bayern and even less money than Schalke.

I'm just not even going to continue explaining this. You are just being willfully ignorant and completely failing to understand the very intuitive concept of a sellout. This isn't rocket science, and you're just being difficult so you can come up with some convoluted criticisms that don't hold any weight.

On April 25 2013 00:46 NuclearJudas wrote:
Gonalons looks like a good fit for Arsenal, indeed. Surprised I forgot about him when weighing up defensive mids to buy. Him and Jovetic joining in the summer would be amazing.

Suarez' punishment seems pretty fair to me. It's a lot of games, but what he did was mind-numbingly stupid. Hopefully he learns from this, because he's a fantastic footballer.

On April 24 2013 23:16 Pandemona wrote:
Personally i think they got found out pretty quickly tactically, and i think it will show tonight tactically vs Mr Mourinho.

On April 25 2013 05:45 city42 wrote:


p.s. Mourinho's tactics were amazing as usual. Forcing Özil out wide and pushing Modric up...fantastic.

On April 25 2013 05:57 Pandemona wrote:


Any teams can do it for one season
If Germans can do what English teams did in the mid 00s then fair enough, until then they are not AWESOME! WORLD BEATERS just yet. They are good no doubt, but Dortmund might get dismantled by the big spenders next season xD

Leaves one team to fly the flag?

On April 25 2013 06:17 Savage88 wrote:
Mourinho back to Chelsea confirmed!

On April 25 2013 06:23 sharkie wrote:


Biggest joke of Liverpool is how they are "shocked" lol. What did they expect? He BIT the man...

...What makes the whole thing such a contentious issue is that when it comes to the FA, and their completely arbitrary disciplinary system, it doesn’t make sense when compared with other bans. Suarez himself was given an 8 game for being racist, is nibbling an opponent 2 games worse than that? And why was Suarez’s racism twice as bad as John Terry’s who only got 4 games? They might say repeated utterances of the word he used against Evra, but racism is racism – and if there was some linguistic confusion over the Suarez affair, the impact of calling your England teammates brother a ‘fucking black cunt’ can’t be obscured in any way.

Yet his words were deemed half as offensive by The FA. 4 games as opposed to 8. Ben Thatcher was given a 9 game ban for a horrendous elbow on Pedro Mendes. Paulo di Canio 12 games for pushing a referee. Mario Balotelli got away with nothing for this, Callum McManaman escaped punishment for this, yet Shawcross got 3 games for this (don't click this one if you are faint of heart), Martin Taylor 3 games for this and Dan Smith 3 games got just a yellow card for, essentially, destroying Abou Diaby’s career.

...The FA willfully ignore violent, dangerous tackles because it’s a can of worms they don’t want to open and they can hide behind excuses such as not being able to judge intent. Yet they happily ignore consequence.

...I’ve long been a proponent of a sliding scale for red cards. Some are worse than others, it’s as simple as that, and until there’s some measure of fairness and logic introduced then people won’t have any faith in those who are tasked with running the game. We have the ludicrous situation where tackles like that of McManaman go unpunished and Giroud gets a three match ban for his, semi-accidental, red card against Fulham.

Grant Holt got away with one the other week against Swansea, there was a nasty one in the Chelsea Liverpool game the other day (might have been Sturridge) which was definitely deserving of a red, but because of the FA’s incomprehensible system these dangerous tackles are not dealt with. Which leads to more dangerous tackles because players feel like they can get away with going over the line.

In the same week that Shawcross broke Ramsey’s leg, Jeremie Aliadiere was playing for Middlesbrough. He lightly tapped an opponent on the face with his hand. He was sent off, by the letter of the the law the correct decision. His behaviour was deemed ‘violent conduct’ and he received an automatic three match ban. Boro appealed. An extra game was added for a frivolous appeal. So, the bloke who put a fellow professional out of the game with a leg snapped like a twig got 3 games and a lift home by his mommy, Aliadiere one game more for very little indeed.

The FA need to set up a thoroughly independent panel who have the power to review incidents in games, regardless of whether or not the referee has seen them or not. If the automatic three match ban stays in place, they should be given the power to increase it if they feel it necessary, or lower it should circumstance dictate. Ideally, there’s starting point of a one match ban for a red card which the panel then adjudicate on in the wake of games and decide if any further punishment is necessary.

On April 25 2013 17:19 Pandemona wrote:


But the reason Madrid lost was their back 4 was shocking >.< and Dortmund had a field day vs it. The game last night was won on them having to play Pepe and Varane together instead of Varane and Ramos with Essien RB.

On April 25 2013 17:19 Pandemona wrote:


I thought you were just trolling. Tactics have been found out if you listened to Mourinho's comments after the game you would realize his players didn't turn up defensively. He said, we know EVERYTHING about Lewandowski, we know he runs to the far post when the cross comes in from the right foot on the left side, but we failed to defend it. We knew it was coming and didn't defend it. He then went onto to say more stuff about Lewandowski.
But the reason Madrid lost was their back 4 was shocking >.< and Dortmund had a field day vs it. The game last night was won on them having to play Pepe and Varane together instead of Varane and Ramos with Essien RB.

IF Dortmund do something similar in the Bernabeau then i will say Mourinho hasn't "found them out", but as im sure Real as like Barca will be 110% better than the away legs, we cannot do anything but wait for the next 90minutes. But no questions German fans can't celebrate their domestic success at the moment!

On April 25 2013 20:25 Stimp wrote:
The retrospective ban is useless to the team who got screwed because of it. Chelsea wont get the 2 vital points back, and the only teams who benefit is the next 10 teams suarez can't play against. Liverpool got punished but Chelsea don't get any compensation. Before you say chelsea bias, this can relate to any team.