On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote: i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.
It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.
e: Well, and Maltese.
french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.
You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.
And Koreans often get flamed hard on the forums by Korean fans whenever they talk English.
Really? As in when they talk English during interviews? Why?
On December 08 2013 02:33 Tchado wrote: why is the tournament so late :S , and btw I read something about a DDOS attack ? sup with that what happened ?
maybe because in europe it's early evening now? just a wild guess
dude i live in the fucking middle east , we follow european time :S , im only +3 GMT
I just finished work and I expected this tournament to be over or in the finals , to find it's still in the round of 8 , so I am surprised.
anyway , what's the deal with this DDOS attack ?
some attention needy kid being a giant pain in the ass.
On December 08 2013 02:33 Tchado wrote: why is the tournament so late :S , and btw I read something about a DDOS attack ? sup with that what happened ?
maybe because in europe it's early evening now? just a wild guess
How is that an explanation? 0.o
hmm a tournament in europe is not played at some idiotic time for the americans' best comfort. hmm this might be an unsolvable mistery
What the fuck are you talking about and do you know how time zones work
your comment doesn't make any sense
my mistake is that thought the guy is american, which he is note.
Lol Innovation looks so badass right now. He has to win this. That's right, it's all about how badass you look. ... Oh shit, he's playing against San :'(
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote: i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.
It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.
e: Well, and Maltese.
french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.
You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.
you are obviously contradicting yourself.they can not speak intelligible english.leenock,stardust,jd,mc mutter a few words.they can not link phrases or construct a sentence.and the idea that foreigners are worse at english is just absurd.foreigners give interviews in english all the time.show me a foreigner worse at english than a korean
1) No, they do not "mutter a few words", they speak English that I can understand as a non-native speaker. Stop with the bullshit please.
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote: i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.
It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.
e: Well, and Maltese.
french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.
You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.
And Koreans often get flamed hard on the forums by Korean fans whenever they talk English.
Really? As in when they talk English during interviews? Why?
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote: i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.
It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.
e: Well, and Maltese.
french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.
@xoronius
all languages are different amongst one another.there is no such thing as a more difficult or easier language.and in the gsl there were plenty of koreans to compensate for the 4 foreigners.
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote: i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.
It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.
e: Well, and Maltese.
french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.
You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.
And Koreans often get flamed hard on the forums by Korean fans whenever they talk English.
Really? As in when they talk English during interviews? Why?
It's a cultural thing, if I understand correctly. Koreans think it's embarrassing to speak a language you don't master or something along those lines.
French not related to english. LOL. There are hundreds and hundreds of french word in english, and hundreds of english words in french. Ever heard about Romans? Guillaume le conquerant? French as the primary language of european noblesse? French used as the diplomatical tongue? Yeah. Not related at all...
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote: i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.
It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.
e: Well, and Maltese.
french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.
You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.
And Koreans often get flamed hard on the forums by Korean fans whenever they talk English.
where and by whom?koreans do not watch foreign tournaments.last dreamhack had about 2000 viewers on the korean stream out of 100k total.who is flaming them?and besides they are playing constantly in fornt of a foreign audience,most of them are on foreign teams and they owe that to the viewership.otherwise too many viewers are driven away.
@hearthlan
they do not try.they can not construct phrases in english.they mutter 2 words and go back to the translator.
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote: i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.
It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.
e: Well, and Maltese.
french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.
You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.
And Koreans often get flamed hard on the forums by Korean fans whenever they talk English.
Really? As in when they talk English during interviews? Why?
They find it cringy and akward.
I am so happy to hear that Korean fans are so much like Western ones.
On December 08 2013 02:33 Tchado wrote: why is the tournament so late :S , and btw I read something about a DDOS attack ? sup with that what happened ?
maybe because in europe it's early evening now? just a wild guess
How is that an explanation? 0.o
You see, hackers are vampires. That's why during the day, they sit at home in their dimly lit basements, alone. Fortunately for them, they've become immune to the eerie glow of their laptop screens, a trait that they've gained over tens of years of having no friends. At dusk, they leave their houses, only to feed on the computers and networks of others. By dawn, they've returned to the safety of their closets, where they go back to being anonymous and unimportant.
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote: i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.
It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.
e: Well, and Maltese.
french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.
You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.
And Koreans often get flamed hard on the forums by Korean fans whenever they talk English.
where and by whom?koreans do not watch foreign tournaments.last dreamhack had about 2000 viewers on the korean stream out of 100k total.who is flaming them?and besides they are playing constantly in fornt of a foreign audience,most of them are on foreign teams and they owe that to the viewership.otherwise too many viewers are driven away.
@hearthlan
they do not try.they can not construct phrases in english.they mutter 2 words and go back to the translator.
You know, it might not be a great idea to complain about other people's language skills when you can't even spell properly.
On December 08 2013 02:33 Tchado wrote: why is the tournament so late :S , and btw I read something about a DDOS attack ? sup with that what happened ?
maybe because in europe it's early evening now? just a wild guess
How is that an explanation? 0.o
You see, hackers are vampires. That's why during the day, they sit at home in their dimly lit basements, alone. Fortunately for them, they've become immune to the eerie glow of their laptop screens, a trait that they've gained over tens of years of having no friends. At dusk, they leave their houses, only to feed on the computers and networks of others. By dawn, they've returned to the safety of their closets, where they go back to being anonymous and unimportant.
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote: i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.
It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.
e: Well, and Maltese.
french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.
You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.
And Koreans often get flamed hard on the forums by Korean fans whenever they talk English.
where and by whom?koreans do not watch foreign tournaments.last dreamhack had about 2000 viewers on the korean stream out of 100k total.who is flaming them?and besides they are playing constantly in fornt of a foreign audience,most of them are on foreign teams and they owe that to the viewership.otherwise too many viewers are driven away.
@hearthlan
they do not try.they can not construct phrases in english.they mutter 2 words and go back to the translator.
I heard thet do it on playxp, the few that do watch foreign tournaments. Also fun fact, the Korean caster for WCS season 2 finals was a good friend of Bomber's and cried on cast when Bomber won out of happiness.
EPT
