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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 07 2013 17:43 GMT
#1341
On December 08 2013 02:39 YoloSwaggins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 02:37 Zealously wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:37 YoloSwaggins wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:35 Zealously wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:34 YoloSwaggins wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:33 Tchado wrote:
why is the tournament so late :S , and btw I read something about a DDOS attack ? sup with that what happened ?


maybe because in europe it's early evening now? just a wild guess


How is that an explanation? 0.o


hmm a tournament in europe is not played at some idiotic time for the americans' best comfort. hmm this might be an unsolvable mistery


What the fuck are you talking about and do you know how time zones work


your comment doesn't make any sense

my mistake is that thought the guy is american, which he is note.


My comment makes perfect sense. The guy asked why the tournament is late, and it is; it is quite delayed, in fact. You responsed with some sarcastic comment about it not being in the americans "best comfort", when it's in fact better for the Americans the later the tournament is played since it allows them to not wake up early.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 07 2013 17:43 GMT
#1342
On December 08 2013 02:34 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 02:32 perfidiusrex wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:28 Ventris wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote:
i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.

It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.

e: Well, and Maltese.


french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.


You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.



And some foreigners know some Korean. Do we expect all of them to know Korean? No, everyone is different. Funny thing is a lot of foreigners have trained and lived in Korea. Whereas Korean living overseas is relatively new. Yet more korean give interviews in English than foreigner give in Korean.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
December 07 2013 17:43 GMT
#1343
On December 08 2013 02:41 perfidiusrex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 02:38 stuchiu wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:34 Zealously wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:32 perfidiusrex wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:28 Ventris wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote:
i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.

It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.

e: Well, and Maltese.


french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.


You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.


And Koreans often get flamed hard on the forums by Korean fans whenever they talk English.


where and by whom?koreans do not watch foreign tournaments.last dreamhack had about 2000 viewers on the korean stream out of 100k total.who is flaming them?and besides they are playing constantly in fornt of a foreign audience,most of them are on foreign teams and they owe that to the viewership.otherwise too many viewers are driven away.

@hearthlan

they do not try.they can not construct phrases in english.they mutter 2 words and go back to the translator.


I guess they are busy practicing so they get all that foreigner money. Seems to me they have their priorities right
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45198 Posts
December 07 2013 17:43 GMT
#1344
On December 08 2013 02:42 The_Templar wrote:
RO8: Match 4

(P)San vs (T)INnoVation
0-0


Map: Yeonsu


San spawns in the top right
INnoVation spawns in the bottom left


Thanks for LRing!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 07 2013 17:43 GMT
#1345
On December 08 2013 02:41 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 02:40 stuchiu wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:39 Heartland wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:38 stuchiu wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:34 Zealously wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:32 perfidiusrex wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:28 Ventris wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote:
i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.

It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.

e: Well, and Maltese.


french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.


You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.


And Koreans often get flamed hard on the forums by Korean fans whenever they talk English.


Really? As in when they talk English during interviews? Why?


They find it cringy and akward.


I am so happy to hear that Korean fans are so much like Western ones.


Chinese fans are best fans. They spam POLT USA USA whenever he wins.
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
December 07 2013 17:44 GMT
#1346
On December 08 2013 02:40 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 02:32 perfidiusrex wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:28 Ventris wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote:
i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.

It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.

e: Well, and Maltese.


french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.

@xoronius

all languages are different amongst one another.there is no such thing as a more difficult or easier language.and in the gsl there were plenty of koreans to compensate for the 4 foreigners.

Somebody doesnt know anything.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_languages

For example German and Sweden is VERY close to english.

Finnish, Estonia and Hungary are only outsiders.


If you wanna go more deep: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_languages

All germanic languages are very close to others.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
December 07 2013 17:44 GMT
#1347
On December 08 2013 02:41 perfidiusrex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 02:38 stuchiu wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:34 Zealously wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:32 perfidiusrex wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:28 Ventris wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote:
i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.

It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.

e: Well, and Maltese.


french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.


You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.


And Koreans often get flamed hard on the forums by Korean fans whenever they talk English.


where and by whom?koreans do not watch foreign tournaments.last dreamhack had about 2000 viewers on the korean stream out of 100k total.who is flaming them?and besides they are playing constantly in fornt of a foreign audience,most of them are on foreign teams and they owe that to the viewership.otherwise too many viewers are driven away.

@hearthlan

they do not try.they can not construct phrases in english.they mutter 2 words and go back to the translator.

Btw. if you are that concerned about linguistics, could use please use the correct capitalization, if you are beginning a new sentence? It is pretty hard to read you posts otherwise.
perfidiusrex
Profile Joined December 2013
Belgium78 Posts
December 07 2013 17:44 GMT
#1348
On December 08 2013 02:40 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 02:37 perfidiusrex wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:34 Zealously wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:32 perfidiusrex wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:28 Ventris wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote:
i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.

It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.

e: Well, and Maltese.


french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.


You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.


you are obviously contradicting yourself.they can not speak intelligible english.leenock,stardust,jd,mc mutter a few words.they can not link phrases or construct a sentence.and the idea that foreigners are worse at english is just absurd.foreigners give interviews in english all the time.show me a foreigner worse at english than a korean


1) No, they do not "mutter a few words", they speak English that I can understand as a non-native speaker. Stop with the bullshit please.

2)





i never mentioned polt.and your only counter example is one that studies at an american university.besides polt,violet and dragon and maybe mc hit me with a known counter example from the koreans and chinesse who constantly come to foreign tournamnets.i would prefer good examples form taeja,jaedong,hero,hyun,life,innovation,stardust,nestra,mvp,mma,duckdeok etc
Jaedong fan
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45198 Posts
December 07 2013 17:44 GMT
#1349
On December 08 2013 02:42 jakethesnake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 02:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:35 Zealously wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:34 YoloSwaggins wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:33 Tchado wrote:
why is the tournament so late :S , and btw I read something about a DDOS attack ? sup with that what happened ?


maybe because in europe it's early evening now? just a wild guess


How is that an explanation? 0.o


You see, hackers are vampires. That's why during the day, they sit at home in their dimly lit basements, alone. Fortunately for them, they've become immune to the eerie glow of their laptop screens, a trait that they've gained over tens of years of having no friends. At dusk, they leave their houses, only to feed on the computers and networks of others. By dawn, they've returned to the safety of their closets, where they go back to being anonymous and unimportant.


BisuDagger is a vampire? The plot thickens...


BisuDagger either means assassin's dagger or dracula's stake.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 07 2013 17:44 GMT
#1350
Shit it's on!
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
December 07 2013 17:44 GMT
#1351
GOGO SAN! NSHS still lives on!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
December 07 2013 17:46 GMT
#1352
Gogo Innovation! Clean 3-0 plz, I'm hungry
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
kc2siq
Profile Joined April 2012
United States319 Posts
December 07 2013 17:46 GMT
#1353
On December 08 2013 02:40 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 02:32 perfidiusrex wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:28 Ventris wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote:
i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.

It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.

e: Well, and Maltese.


french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.

@xoronius

all languages are different amongst one another.there is no such thing as a more difficult or easier language.and in the gsl there were plenty of koreans to compensate for the 4 foreigners.

Somebody doesnt know anything.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_languages

For example German and Sweden is VERY close to english.

Finnish, Estonia and Hungary are only outsiders.


In my University, I see Japanese/Chinese/Korean international students people taking each other's language courses. It was the first time they took the language technically, but they get the easiest A's ever. I guess by perfidiusrex's logic, we should blame English speakers for not trying hard enough in learning the eastern asian languages.
Byun, best player in the world!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45198 Posts
December 07 2013 17:46 GMT
#1354
On December 08 2013 02:39 Darpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 02:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:12 TheBadOmen wrote:
God is merciful, he want jaedong to win a tournament


Thank God for Jaedong's win? lol



Be so bittersweet if Jaedong lost to scarlett. haha


Agreed lol although that would have to be in the finals, so it'd make sense for Jaedong to lose
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 17:50:44
December 07 2013 17:46 GMT
#1355
On December 08 2013 02:44 perfidiusrex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 02:40 Zealously wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:37 perfidiusrex wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:34 Zealously wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:32 perfidiusrex wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:28 Ventris wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote:
i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.

It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.

e: Well, and Maltese.


french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.


You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.


you are obviously contradicting yourself.they can not speak intelligible english.leenock,stardust,jd,mc mutter a few words.they can not link phrases or construct a sentence.and the idea that foreigners are worse at english is just absurd.foreigners give interviews in english all the time.show me a foreigner worse at english than a korean


1) No, they do not "mutter a few words", they speak English that I can understand as a non-native speaker. Stop with the bullshit please.

2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ-QN8HDZak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pqiu9Ln3DY


i never mentioned polt.and your only counter example is one that studies at an american university.besides polt,violet and dragon and maybe mc hit me with a known counter example from the koreans and chinesse who constantly come to foreign tournamnets.i would prefer good examples form taeja,jaedong,hero,hyun,life,innovation,stardust,nestra,mvp,mma,duckdeok etc


Holy shit you are insufferable and the most amusing part about all this is that your English is terrible

Anyway:

+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436821


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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 07 2013 17:47 GMT
#1356
On December 08 2013 02:42 The_Templar wrote:
RO8: Match 4

(P)San vs (T)INnoVation
0-0


Map: Yeonsu


San spawns in the top right
INnoVation spawns in the bottom left

1:00
Innovation going gas first followed by a barracks.
San starting with a gateway and one assimilator.

2:00
Innovation building a factory.
San making a cybernetics core.

3:00
Nexus for San as well as a mothership core.
Factory for Innovation.

4:00
Innovation making a widow mine and a starport.
Innovation placing marines at his natural to deny scouting.
First widow mine finishes and is being followed by a hellion.
Medivac for Innovation.
San getting a stargate.

5:00
San probe scouting.
Innovation loading up a drop of 6 marines + widow mine but San has already figured it out.

6:00
San deflecting the drop with an oracle with detection and stalkers.
Innovation getting a tank and a third CC.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 07 2013 17:47 GMT
#1357
On December 08 2013 02:41 perfidiusrex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 02:38 stuchiu wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:34 Zealously wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:32 perfidiusrex wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:28 Ventris wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote:
i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.

It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.

e: Well, and Maltese.


french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.


You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.


And Koreans often get flamed hard on the forums by Korean fans whenever they talk English.


where and by whom?koreans do not watch foreign tournaments.last dreamhack had about 2000 viewers on the korean stream out of 100k total.who is flaming them?and besides they are playing constantly in fornt of a foreign audience,most of them are on foreign teams and they owe that to the viewership.otherwise too many viewers are driven away.

@hearthlan

they do not try.they can not construct phrases in english.they mutter 2 words and go back to the translator.


Sorry, when golfers come to China open, they don't speak Chinese either. They owe their gameplay to viewers, they don't owe them interviews in English.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
December 07 2013 17:47 GMT
#1358
Dudes stop the language arguing and just enjoy some games. Really who cares.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
JonIrenicus
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Italy602 Posts
December 07 2013 17:47 GMT
#1359
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Fjodorov
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5007 Posts
December 07 2013 17:48 GMT
#1360
viking to avoid high ground vision? or for oracle? hmm
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