On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote: i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.
It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.
e: Well, and Maltese.
french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.
You are either wrongly generalising or just ignorant. There are several Korean players that have very good English that's good enough for interviews. MC, Stardust, Polt, DongRaeGu and JD come to mind. For the Koreans, it's a lot about not wanting to speak English because they feel they're not good at it, whereas all Europeans speak English even when some of them would be better off with a translator because it's fucking impossible to understand what they're saying.
you are obviously contradicting yourself.they can not speak intelligible english.leenock,stardust,jd,mc mutter a few words.they can not link phrases or construct a sentence.and the idea that foreigners are worse at english is just absurd.foreigners give interviews in english all the time.show me a foreigner worse at english than a korean
1) No, they do not "mutter a few words", they speak English that I can understand as a non-native speaker. Stop with the bullshit please.
2)
i never mentioned polt.and your only counter example is one that studies at an american university.besides polt,violet and dragon and maybe mc hit me with a known counter example from the koreans and chinesse who constantly come to foreign tournamnets.i would prefer good examples form taeja,jaedong,hero,hyun,life,innovation,stardust,nestra,mvp,mma,duckdeok etc
Look, there are a lot of different reason on how pros approach the aspect of being an entertainer as well as a gamer. Some like Naniwa barely do it. Others like MC embrace it completely. That's what makes them interesting, thats what makes them who they are. A lot of Koreans find it embarrassing, and those that do often get forgotten in the international scene anyway and then just get flamed when they go home.
On December 08 2013 02:41 aXa wrote: French not related to english. LOL. There are hundreds and hundreds of french word in english, and hundreds of english words in french. Ever heard about Romans? Guillaume le conquerant? French as the primary language of european noblesse? French used as the diplomatical tongue? Yeah. Not related at all...
still, french is a latin langage and english is a german one. there are tons of english words in the arabic langages and they are not related...
Still french is indo european language as german is also
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote: i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.
It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.
e: Well, and Maltese.
french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.
@xoronius
all languages are different amongst one another.there is no such thing as a more difficult or easier language.and in the gsl there were plenty of koreans to compensate for the 4 foreigners.
For example German and Sweden is VERY close to english.
Finnish, Estonia and Hungary are only outsiders.
In my University, I see Japanese/Chinese/Korean international students people taking each other's language courses. It was the first time they took the language technically, but they get the easiest A's ever. I guess by perfidiusrex's logic, we should blame English speakers for not trying hard enough in learning the eastern asian languages.
I agree with the guy saying they should learn better English, but the true limit is the fact that they play 16 hours a day in front of a computer and so I doubt they would have much time learning english
Good point about the 16 hours thing. In all seriousness, from my viewpoint as an English-speaker that has spent a lot of time trying to learn Chinese. You literally have to spend 5+ times as much time as a Korean learning Chinese to get an equivalent level. The same is true for German dude learning english and Korean dude learning english
On December 08 2013 02:26 perfidiusrex wrote: i sort of wonder why all of these asian players can not learn english to comminicate with international fans.chinesse and sourth korean players are really disrespectfull.sc2 is an international esport for 3 years now and they are making money relying mostly on foreigner views.south koreans do not even watch foreign tournaments.the least they can do is learn a bit of english.its not like it is hard.french,german,russian,finnish players all speak english.only korean and chinesse do not learn english.tournaments and foreign teams should enforce a mandatory english language rule.
It's far harder for them to learn the language. All European languages except Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are more or less related to English, so learning it is rather trivial for us. For them not so much.
e: Well, and Maltese.
french isn't related to english yet all french players speak in english.dutch isn't related yet all dutch players speak in enlish.russian,polish,swedish,norwegian arent related to enligsh yet all the proplayers speak in enligsh.the south koreans aren't even trying.
@xoronius
all languages are different amongst one another.there is no such thing as a more difficult or easier language.and in the gsl there were plenty of koreans to compensate for the 4 foreigners.
For example German and Sweden is VERY close to english.
Finnish, Estonia and Hungary are only outsiders.
I would like to know how Slavic languages are even remotely similar to English language. They even use Cyrillic alphabet.
When I was learning Bosnian I found a few similarities between Swedish or English and Bosnian/Serbian. They are there, though nowhere near as numerous as for example German.
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