EPT[DreamHack] Winter Day 3 2013 - Page 107
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Godwrath
Spain10167 Posts
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rinnnedor321
53 Posts
why innovation did not do that... well he gettin a bit too cocky it seems. Cc on the lowground is what lost it for him | ||
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Boundz(DarKo)
5311 Posts
lolwut | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
Objectively, his control and decision making was flawless. He ddefintely didn't win just by flipping coins, that is for sure. Now maybe he cannot win a BO5 against Life, especially if PvZ is his worst m-u, I really don't know, but for me his play in this tournament was convincing enough. Let's hope him the best and stay positive please. | ||
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Fjodorov
5007 Posts
On December 01 2013 03:47 Markwerf wrote: what a complete bullshit about this "abusing the bo3 format". Really that stuff doesn't matter at all, his opponents can see all his games when they are not playing.. What gives a fuck really if it's a bo3 vs MMA and then a bo3 vs innovation instead of just a bo5 vs one of them. He has to vary just as much and his opponents have enough information to go on. He just plays well and his strategy decisions work out well, a combination of smart choices and a bit of luck but that's always the case in the buildorder game. He also played some fine standard games, if opponents didn't respect his endgame they would definately not be doing stuff like CC first on a smallish 2p map. I don't consider it a great player from what i've seen yet but just calling it 'bo3 cheesing' is rediculously unfair. Patience is playing very well, no doubt. But I think bo3 increases his chances as benefits him and his style. | ||
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andilaama
Finland192 Posts
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TronJovolta
United States323 Posts
On December 01 2013 03:46 Fjodorov wrote: The funny/frustrating/unbealivable thing is that Taeja then comes and playes some of the sickest TvP and makes Terran look fucking imba once again. ALways one top terran making terran look broken at any given period ^^ Right!?! Don't get me wrong. I love SC. I'm not trying to blow balance issues out of proportion. The game is pretty much so. I just really can't stand Photon Overcharge/MSC. | ||
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kroko
Finland2136 Posts
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On December 01 2013 03:50 Symbioth wrote: One thing appears a bit odd to me - it seems that consistently every unknown guy who comes out of nowhere and shows a great run in a tournament makes heavy use of proxy builds or other cheese and somehow it happens to work out. Not saying this to depreciate, though. He displayed a lot of skill in this tournament. For example, game 1 vs Innovation required great decision making backed up with solid macro and micro which he showed by deciding to abandon his blink all-in and succesfuly transitioning into a macro game. Because the established players are probably better in consistent macro games. Gotta throw them off and do whatever it takes to win rather than letting them play in their comfort zone. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 01 2013 03:51 Fjodorov wrote: Patience is playing very well, no doubt. But I think bo3 increases his chances as benefits him and his style. How on earth does a bo3 benefit "a style"? | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
On December 01 2013 03:50 Symbioth wrote: One thing appears a bit odd to me - it seems that consistently every unknown guy who comes out of nowhere and shows a great run in a tournament makes heavy use of proxy builds or other cheese and somehow it happens to work out. Not saying this to depreciate, though. He displayed a lot of skill in this tournament. For example, game 1 vs Innovation required great decision making backed up with solid macro and micro which he showed by deciding to abandon his blink all-in and succesfuly transitioning into a macro game. watch the vod when it is released. it was never a blink allin, it was fake, which is incredibly hard to scout and put innovation behind. | ||
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woody60707
United States1863 Posts
On December 01 2013 03:51 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: You bought it from US? What, the cardboard box? lolwut USA! USA! | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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goody153
44309 Posts
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On December 01 2013 03:45 Jer99 wrote: So why can't he play great in the future? Did i forget that you can see into the future or something? Haters gonna hate, Patience is playing fantastically Probably because we had players like that before. One of them finished last in his group at this Dreamhack. I think he is successful because other players treat him like an experienced pro gamer. Who would go for proxy gate on that map since most players open reaper expand there.. It is 2 player map and your opponent knows where you are so it is very risky to open cc 1st. Innovation was probably thinking he is mind gaming him by going for that build but Patience just flips a coin and does a build regardless of the map. I am not saying he has no talent at all because if he is really playing only for 1 year, even coming here is an achievement, but I think it is more realistic that he will fall off the radar like Stardust than become the next Dear. | ||
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danteafk
307 Posts
nice downtimes this dhw13. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 01 2013 03:52 Shikyo wrote: How on earth does a bo3 benefit "a style"? It benefits Protoss, not a style. There's a reason when Protoss was doing "bad" in major tournaments they had an almost 65% (? I can't remember if it was higher or not) winrate in PL. | ||
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Keeemy
Finland7855 Posts
On December 01 2013 03:52 Shikyo wrote: How on earth does a bo3 benefit "a style"? He can use his most gimmicky tactics? In a bo5/bo7 he would need to play some macro games too most likely or use the same tactics twice. It's a protoss thing. | ||
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ArTiFaKs
United States1229 Posts
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