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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 17 2012 10:17 GMT
#7381
On November 17 2012 19:16 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:14 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:13 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:11 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:09 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:06 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Vandrad wrote:
lol at you conspiracy nuts - stephano tried everything to win.


Ugh... this is just frustrating. I am not saying Stephano threw the games, but it frustrates me to see people who say that they KNOW he did, and also people acting like it isn't a possibility whatsoever.

Stephano HAS TRIED TO THROW GAMES IN THE PAST!!! Why can't everyone just accept the fact that he may have, and also accept the fact that they don't know if he actually did it. It would be so much more sensible..........


Actually, the sensible thing to do is to assume both players played their best.



Well, that's what I am assuming... but I am also being reasonable by acknowledging the fact that it is a possibility that they did not in the interests of winning $100k. That's all. It just bothers me that everyone seems so ignorant of that being a very real possibility.


Uhh, that's not being reasonable at all.


It's not reasonable to acknowledge that a player may lose a game in the interests of having an easier path to the finals (when they can look ahead in the bracket)? Please explain why.


Because you're assuming the worst out of players without any substantial evidence whatsoever.


I think the reason is because he's done it before in a tournament where much less was on the line ;o
TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
November 17 2012 10:17 GMT
#7382
On November 17 2012 19:14 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:13 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:11 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:09 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:06 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Vandrad wrote:
lol at you conspiracy nuts - stephano tried everything to win.


Ugh... this is just frustrating. I am not saying Stephano threw the games, but it frustrates me to see people who say that they KNOW he did, and also people acting like it isn't a possibility whatsoever.

Stephano HAS TRIED TO THROW GAMES IN THE PAST!!! Why can't everyone just accept the fact that he may have, and also accept the fact that they don't know if he actually did it. It would be so much more sensible..........


Actually, the sensible thing to do is to assume both players played their best.



Well, that's what I am assuming... but I am also being reasonable by acknowledging the fact that it is a possibility that they did not in the interests of winning $100k. That's all. It just bothers me that everyone seems so ignorant of that being a very real possibility.


Uhh, that's not being reasonable at all.


It's not reasonable to acknowledge that a player may lose a game in the interests of having an easier path to the finals (when they can look ahead in the bracket)? Please explain why.


Because losing to IdrA doesn't make the bracket any easier for him. He's not going to throw a game vs. an EG member on a huge stage like this. He's not going to throw games again after what happened the last time he did.

Numerous other reasons..don't think it's necessary to go on.
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kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
November 17 2012 10:17 GMT
#7383
omfg. omfg. OMFG. IdrA seriously just 2-0ed RorO AND Stephano. IdrA just 4-0ed the group of death... guess ZvZ really is a useful skill toi have :D
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 17 2012 10:17 GMT
#7384
Yeah, it was quite funny when they showed APM during the middle of the game and Idra was at 250+ and Stephano peaked at 60.
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Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
November 17 2012 10:17 GMT
#7385
On November 17 2012 19:12 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:11 broodmann wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:09 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:06 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Vandrad wrote:
lol at you conspiracy nuts - stephano tried everything to win.


Ugh... this is just frustrating. I am not saying Stephano threw the games, but it frustrates me to see people who say that they KNOW he did, and also people acting like it isn't a possibility whatsoever.

Stephano HAS TRIED TO THROW GAMES IN THE PAST!!! Why can't everyone just accept the fact that he may have, and also accept the fact that they don't know if he actually did it. It would be so much more sensible..........


Actually, the sensible thing to do is to assume both players played their best.



Then Stephano sure has gotten a lot worse lately


His ZvZ was never as good as his ZvP or ZvT.

Yea in that MU both sides have infestors. Makes things harder ;D
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 17 2012 10:17 GMT
#7386
That was a weird warp prism.
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zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
November 17 2012 10:18 GMT
#7387
On November 17 2012 19:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:10 Valikyr wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:08 emjaytron wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:06 Lylat wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:05 Dodgin wrote:
In other news Leenock has been cheering on Greg on twitter all night, maybe that's why he did so well.

https://twitter.com/FXOleenock

Lol this is cute, I thought koeans didn't really liked Idra !


Well it could just be that Leenock of all people should recognise good zvz

Nah that can't be it. Leenock is involved in this conspiracy. John the Translator, Church of Satan and Illuminati too.


A slight exaggeration, but I do agree with you.


Koreans have always liked Idra, because hes one of the only foreigners who played in Korea in BW.
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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
November 17 2012 10:18 GMT
#7388
On November 17 2012 19:15 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 18:17 Corrosive wrote:
if idra wins: omg stephano threw for 20 pages in a row

oh fuck what a surprise



Trolololololololo...


On November 17 2012 19:16 kochanfe wrote:
Oh my fucking god. Oh my fucking god. OH MY FUCKING GOD! IdrA seriously just 2-0ed RorO AND Stephano. IdrA just 4-0ed the group of death... guess ZvZ really is a useful skill toi have :D



If Idra played Life or Leenock he would have gotten destroyed.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
November 17 2012 10:18 GMT
#7389
On November 17 2012 19:16 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:14 nkr wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:13 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:11 nkr wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:09 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:07 Derrida wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Ziggitz wrote:
How dense are you people. You wanna throw a series? Two games up to maxed armies with elaborate army positioning and backstabs is not the way to do it. 10 pool vs 16 hatch 16 gas 17 pool is how you do it.


Your argument makes no sense, that would be very obvious and fuel the paranoias of conspiracy theorists.


Yeah, and it would lead to him potentially getting caught if he made it obvious. It's not difficult to simply play worse later in the game...

DISCLAIMER: I am once again not saying that I think Stephano threw it, but people are using such flawed logic to make it seem like it somehow isn't a possibility.


I think there's a possibility that you're retarded. I'm not saying you are, but it's still possible.


What a needless personal attack. I'm just being sensible and logical. I'm sorry if it is crushing your dream world where everyone plays for honor and not for money.


I'm just using your own flawed way of arguing.


No... if you were doing that, you would make a statement that would point out the logical flaw in my statement, rather than insulting me in a "witty" way.

Didn't he point out the flaw in your statement if you truly thought it was insulting instead of logical?
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 17 2012 10:18 GMT
#7390
Ouch curious sends his queens too far out to deal with hero's void rays and phoenixes swoop in the pick up 3 kills but curious' infestors catch hero's air army and destroys it.
Glorious SEA doto
McVities
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom36 Posts
November 17 2012 10:18 GMT
#7391
On November 17 2012 19:12 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:10 McVities wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:09 -Strider- wrote:
Its a shame that Idra will have to play the tournament winner u_u


lold so hard. I'd fear someone BK 2-0'd too.


I lol'd too. I heard PvP is a very solid and well rounded matchup, and I also heard Idra's ZvP is amazing. He'll beat Rain no worries, he actually let DRG take games off of him ha ha ha


Sorry ShAdZ_ZX I should probably clarify as my previous post was misleading. Rain is going to beat Idra. Sure. That's a given. His ZvP is atrocious. But Rain being the tournament winner is where my loling came from.
I only know my mind, I am mine.
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
November 17 2012 10:18 GMT
#7392
On November 17 2012 19:15 broodmann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:12 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:11 broodmann wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:09 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:06 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Vandrad wrote:
lol at you conspiracy nuts - stephano tried everything to win.


Ugh... this is just frustrating. I am not saying Stephano threw the games, but it frustrates me to see people who say that they KNOW he did, and also people acting like it isn't a possibility whatsoever.

Stephano HAS TRIED TO THROW GAMES IN THE PAST!!! Why can't everyone just accept the fact that he may have, and also accept the fact that they don't know if he actually did it. It would be so much more sensible..........


Actually, the sensible thing to do is to assume both players played their best.



Then Stephano sure has gotten a lot worse lately


His ZvZ was never as good as his ZvP or ZvT.


I've never seen him play ZvZ this poorly, in game 2 he just threw away infestor energy and units on nothing, several times he split his army in two, attacking with only half of his units


I have. I've also seen him play terribly in his other matchups. Players make mistakes, it happens to the best of them. Before today I've never seen Rain played PvP completely mediocre, but it happens.

To suggest Stephano is throwing games is absurd.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
November 17 2012 10:18 GMT
#7393
Great fungals. Nice revenge for those fallen queens.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 10:19:34
November 17 2012 10:18 GMT
#7394
On November 17 2012 19:17 AndAgain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:14 Derrida wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:12 arew wrote:
Well, once more. Stephano played pretty sloppy. He missed a lot of injects since the midgame, if you could check how much energy his Queens had. Also, his APM was pretty low the entire time, you should have checked how often he clicks his keyboard, usually he's by far faster.
I'm not saying IdrA played bad, no way. He played really well, but I'm saying that Stephano played this not that good as he usually does, guess I'm not the only one who think so.


Glad I'm not the only one watching player cams.


What, how do you do this?


If you're not trolling, they are at the bottom of the regular cast, like face-cams but these are from a distance so you can see the mouse-keyboard hands. (on the tastosis stream)
#1 Grubby Fan.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 17 2012 10:19 GMT
#7395
On November 17 2012 19:05 Dodgin wrote:
In other news Leenock has been cheering on Greg on twitter all night, maybe that's why he did so well.

https://twitter.com/FXOleenock

This needs to be highlighted again. It's freaking adoreable ^_^
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
brofestor
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore101 Posts
November 17 2012 10:19 GMT
#7396
terran having more bases and supply than zerg , zerg can still hold their own with ling and winfestors
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 17 2012 10:19 GMT
#7397
Curious is massing the spines is preparing for the hive tech switch.
Glorious SEA doto
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
November 17 2012 10:19 GMT
#7398
On November 17 2012 19:17 Fionn wrote:
Yeah, it was quite funny when they showed APM during the middle of the game and Idra was at 250+ and Stephano peaked at 60.


Well that moment was when Stephano had no fourth, no army and his harass was just shut down. There isn't much to do there.

When the game was still close he was around 300.
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Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
November 17 2012 10:19 GMT
#7399
On November 17 2012 19:15 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:14 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:13 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:11 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:09 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:06 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Vandrad wrote:
lol at you conspiracy nuts - stephano tried everything to win.


Ugh... this is just frustrating. I am not saying Stephano threw the games, but it frustrates me to see people who say that they KNOW he did, and also people acting like it isn't a possibility whatsoever.

Stephano HAS TRIED TO THROW GAMES IN THE PAST!!! Why can't everyone just accept the fact that he may have, and also accept the fact that they don't know if he actually did it. It would be so much more sensible..........


Actually, the sensible thing to do is to assume both players played their best.



Well, that's what I am assuming... but I am also being reasonable by acknowledging the fact that it is a possibility that they did not in the interests of winning $100k. That's all. It just bothers me that everyone seems so ignorant of that being a very real possibility.


Uhh, that's not being reasonable at all.


It's not reasonable to acknowledge that a player may lose a game in the interests of having an easier path to the finals (when they can look ahead in the bracket)? Please explain why.

That's not what he said, you just made that up.


I may have misinterpreted what he said, but I am not just making things up. In fact, he responded directly towards what I said after you posted this, implying that it was what he meant. Otherwise he would have said "No, that's not what I was saying."

On November 17 2012 19:16 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:14 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:13 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:11 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:09 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:06 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Vandrad wrote:
lol at you conspiracy nuts - stephano tried everything to win.


Ugh... this is just frustrating. I am not saying Stephano threw the games, but it frustrates me to see people who say that they KNOW he did, and also people acting like it isn't a possibility whatsoever.

Stephano HAS TRIED TO THROW GAMES IN THE PAST!!! Why can't everyone just accept the fact that he may have, and also accept the fact that they don't know if he actually did it. It would be so much more sensible..........


Actually, the sensible thing to do is to assume both players played their best.



Well, that's what I am assuming... but I am also being reasonable by acknowledging the fact that it is a possibility that they did not in the interests of winning $100k. That's all. It just bothers me that everyone seems so ignorant of that being a very real possibility.


Uhh, that's not being reasonable at all.


It's not reasonable to acknowledge that a player may lose a game in the interests of having an easier path to the finals (when they can look ahead in the bracket)? Please explain why.


Because you're assuming the worst out of players without any substantial evidence whatsoever.


I am not assuming the worst. I am assuming that they both tried to win. How is that assuming the worst? I am just acknowledging that the players had the opportunity to behave poorly. Why? Because they did due to Blizzard's predetermined brackets. In addition, Stephano has tried it in the past, so it really isn't fair to completely rule it out as a possibility, which many people in this thread are.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 17 2012 10:19 GMT
#7400
On November 17 2012 19:18 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:15 Corrosive wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:17 Corrosive wrote:
if idra wins: omg stephano threw for 20 pages in a row

oh fuck what a surprise



Trolololololololo...


Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:16 kochanfe wrote:
Oh my fucking god. Oh my fucking god. OH MY FUCKING GOD! IdrA seriously just 2-0ed RorO AND Stephano. IdrA just 4-0ed the group of death... guess ZvZ really is a useful skill toi have :D



If Idra played Life or Leenock he would have gotten destroyed.


That's really relevant.
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