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Asmodeusx
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
286 Posts
November 17 2012 10:15 GMT
#7361
On November 17 2012 19:13 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:12 arew wrote:
Well, once more. Stephano played pretty sloppy. He missed a lot of injects since the midgame, if you could check how much energy his Queens had. Also, his APM was pretty low the entire time, you should have checked how often he clicks his keyboard, usually he's by far faster.
I'm not saying IdrA played bad, no way. He played really well, but I'm saying that Stephano played this not that good as he usually does, guess I'm not the only one who think so.

This is accurate.


This is an acurate representation of his opinion and nothing more
Hermetis Vögelein ist mein Nahm verlahs meine Flügel und werde zahm.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 10:15:26
November 17 2012 10:15 GMT
#7362
On November 17 2012 18:17 Corrosive wrote:
if idra wins: omg stephano threw for 20 pages in a row

oh fuck what a surprise
Maruprime.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
November 17 2012 10:15 GMT
#7363
On November 17 2012 19:14 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:13 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:11 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:09 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:06 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Vandrad wrote:
lol at you conspiracy nuts - stephano tried everything to win.


Ugh... this is just frustrating. I am not saying Stephano threw the games, but it frustrates me to see people who say that they KNOW he did, and also people acting like it isn't a possibility whatsoever.

Stephano HAS TRIED TO THROW GAMES IN THE PAST!!! Why can't everyone just accept the fact that he may have, and also accept the fact that they don't know if he actually did it. It would be so much more sensible..........


Actually, the sensible thing to do is to assume both players played their best.



Well, that's what I am assuming... but I am also being reasonable by acknowledging the fact that it is a possibility that they did not in the interests of winning $100k. That's all. It just bothers me that everyone seems so ignorant of that being a very real possibility.


Uhh, that's not being reasonable at all.


It's not reasonable to acknowledge that a player may lose a game in the interests of having an easier path to the finals (when they can look ahead in the bracket)? Please explain why.

That's not what he said, you just made that up.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
heaveshade
Profile Joined March 2011
China330 Posts
November 17 2012 10:15 GMT
#7364
Rock said his play is almost as good as pros before 15min

Is he trolling F91 lol
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
November 17 2012 10:15 GMT
#7365
2-base corruptors or another hatchery at 9?

corruptors obviously
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
November 17 2012 10:15 GMT
#7366
With all due respect I do not think this Lucifron TvZ should work at all.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 17 2012 10:15 GMT
#7367
On November 17 2012 19:10 Valikyr wrote:
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On November 17 2012 19:08 emjaytron wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:06 Lylat wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:05 Dodgin wrote:
In other news Leenock has been cheering on Greg on twitter all night, maybe that's why he did so well.

https://twitter.com/FXOleenock

Lol this is cute, I thought koeans didn't really liked Idra !


Well it could just be that Leenock of all people should recognise good zvz

Nah that can't be it. Leenock is involved in this conspiracy. John the Translator, Church of Satan and Illuminati too.


A slight exaggeration, but I do agree with you.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
November 17 2012 10:15 GMT
#7368
Lowely getting pounded by Lucifron
broodmann
Profile Joined December 2011
604 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 10:16:48
November 17 2012 10:15 GMT
#7369
On November 17 2012 19:12 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:11 broodmann wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:09 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:06 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Vandrad wrote:
lol at you conspiracy nuts - stephano tried everything to win.


Ugh... this is just frustrating. I am not saying Stephano threw the games, but it frustrates me to see people who say that they KNOW he did, and also people acting like it isn't a possibility whatsoever.

Stephano HAS TRIED TO THROW GAMES IN THE PAST!!! Why can't everyone just accept the fact that he may have, and also accept the fact that they don't know if he actually did it. It would be so much more sensible..........


Actually, the sensible thing to do is to assume both players played their best.



Then Stephano sure has gotten a lot worse lately


His ZvZ was never as good as his ZvP or ZvT.


I've never seen him play ZvZ this poorly, in game 2 he just threw away infestor energy and units on nothing, several times he split his army in two, attacking with only half of his units
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
November 17 2012 10:16 GMT
#7370
LucifroN so much better, he has to win this tourney :D.
WriterMaru
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 10:16:51
November 17 2012 10:16 GMT
#7371
Any word on how Luci's group is going? Need him to win so we get more than 1 Terran in r16.

e: lol, seems there is word right as I type this =)
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
November 17 2012 10:16 GMT
#7372
Oh my fucking god. Oh my fucking god. OH MY FUCKING GOD! IdrA seriously just 2-0ed RorO AND Stephano. IdrA just 4-0ed the group of death... guess ZvZ really is a useful skill toi have :D
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
November 17 2012 10:16 GMT
#7373
On November 17 2012 19:14 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:13 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:11 nkr wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:09 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:07 Derrida wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Ziggitz wrote:
How dense are you people. You wanna throw a series? Two games up to maxed armies with elaborate army positioning and backstabs is not the way to do it. 10 pool vs 16 hatch 16 gas 17 pool is how you do it.


Your argument makes no sense, that would be very obvious and fuel the paranoias of conspiracy theorists.


Yeah, and it would lead to him potentially getting caught if he made it obvious. It's not difficult to simply play worse later in the game...

DISCLAIMER: I am once again not saying that I think Stephano threw it, but people are using such flawed logic to make it seem like it somehow isn't a possibility.


I think there's a possibility that you're retarded. I'm not saying you are, but it's still possible.


What a needless personal attack. I'm just being sensible and logical. I'm sorry if it is crushing your dream world where everyone plays for honor and not for money.


I'm just using your own flawed way of arguing.


No... if you were doing that, you would make a statement that would point out the logical flaw in my statement, rather than insulting me in a "witty" way.
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
November 17 2012 10:16 GMT
#7374
On November 17 2012 19:14 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:13 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:11 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:09 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:06 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Vandrad wrote:
lol at you conspiracy nuts - stephano tried everything to win.


Ugh... this is just frustrating. I am not saying Stephano threw the games, but it frustrates me to see people who say that they KNOW he did, and also people acting like it isn't a possibility whatsoever.

Stephano HAS TRIED TO THROW GAMES IN THE PAST!!! Why can't everyone just accept the fact that he may have, and also accept the fact that they don't know if he actually did it. It would be so much more sensible..........


Actually, the sensible thing to do is to assume both players played their best.



Well, that's what I am assuming... but I am also being reasonable by acknowledging the fact that it is a possibility that they did not in the interests of winning $100k. That's all. It just bothers me that everyone seems so ignorant of that being a very real possibility.


Uhh, that's not being reasonable at all.


It's not reasonable to acknowledge that a player may lose a game in the interests of having an easier path to the finals (when they can look ahead in the bracket)? Please explain why.


Because you're assuming the worst out of players without any substantial evidence whatsoever.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
November 17 2012 10:17 GMT
#7375
On November 17 2012 19:14 Derrida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:12 arew wrote:
Well, once more. Stephano played pretty sloppy. He missed a lot of injects since the midgame, if you could check how much energy his Queens had. Also, his APM was pretty low the entire time, you should have checked how often he clicks his keyboard, usually he's by far faster.
I'm not saying IdrA played bad, no way. He played really well, but I'm saying that Stephano played this not that good as he usually does, guess I'm not the only one who think so.


Glad I'm not the only one watching player cams.


What, how do you do this?
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 10:17:18
November 17 2012 10:17 GMT
#7376
Phoenix dealing tons of damage to curious' economy, overlords and queens getting murdered by curious' roach ling poke denies the 3rd void rays being produced to help secure the 3rd.
Glorious SEA doto
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
November 17 2012 10:17 GMT
#7377
Rain what happened?! Also YEY Gracken!
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Astro-Penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
554 Posts
November 17 2012 10:17 GMT
#7378
Anyone know what stream Rain vs State is going to be played on?
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 10:18:14
November 17 2012 10:17 GMT
#7379
I think Stephano vs. HerO Round 2 is going to show whether Stephano was giving his all vs. IdrA.

Remember - just because a player isn't giving his all doesn't = he's throwing the match. Going up against teammates / friends is capable of being quite awkward for a lot of players, psychologically, and that affects their play. In this case, the effect is magnified because the winner faces Rain. It was a low reward match for Stephano, while for IdrA it's a high reward match because he needed the momentum, given his mindset.
DontNerfInfestors
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain280 Posts
November 17 2012 10:17 GMT
#7380
Please moderate this thread. Im seeing a lot of stuff that could be called personal attacks.
Please dont nerf them.Infestors are fine.
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