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ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 10:11:02
November 17 2012 10:10 GMT
#7321
On November 17 2012 19:06 Vandrad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:05 Solarist wrote:
Are people really claiming Stephano threw those games, like REALLY?


biased. idra. haters.


I don't care much for either, so I'm not biased at all, but I could tell how uncharastically poor some of Stephano's decision making was in game 1.

I find it more funny the Idra fanboys here making a big deal out of Idra winning two ZvZ's when he's spent the past few months practising solely for this ZvZ group against Suppy, while Stephano has been off wining tournaments. He deserves credit, I didn't expect him to play as well as he did, but suddenly call him the one of the best foreigners after two ZvZ series? Really?
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
November 17 2012 10:10 GMT
#7322
On November 17 2012 19:08 emjaytron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:06 Lylat wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:05 Dodgin wrote:
In other news Leenock has been cheering on Greg on twitter all night, maybe that's why he did so well.

https://twitter.com/FXOleenock

Lol this is cute, I thought koeans didn't really liked Idra !


Well it could just be that Leenock of all people should recognise good zvz

Nah that can't be it. Leenock is involved in this conspiracy. John the Translator, Church of Satan and Illuminati too.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
November 17 2012 10:10 GMT
#7323
On November 17 2012 19:05 Dodgin wrote:
In other news Leenock has been cheering on Greg on twitter all night, maybe that's why he did so well.

https://twitter.com/FXOleenock

Past future Nestea supporting Grack? Grack will win this!

What I find funny is the next series. If Idra faces Rain and wins then he will have won because of imbalance. It can't be that he just outplayed his opponents so far and MAYBE in the next round.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
November 17 2012 10:10 GMT
#7324
Sick game between Nerchio and Moonglade on stream 3 atm
McVities
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom36 Posts
November 17 2012 10:10 GMT
#7325
On November 17 2012 19:09 -Strider- wrote:
Its a shame that Idra will have to play the tournament winner u_u


lold so hard. I'd fear someone BK 2-0'd too.
I only know my mind, I am mine.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
November 17 2012 10:11 GMT
#7326
On November 17 2012 19:10 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:06 Vandrad wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:05 Solarist wrote:
Are people really claiming Stephano threw those games, like REALLY?


biased. idra. haters.


I don't care much for either and I could tell how uncharastically poor some of his decision making was in game 1.

I find it more funny the Idra fanboys here making a big deal out of Idra winning two ZvZ's when he's spent the past few months practising solely for his ZvZ's against Suppy, while Stephano has been off wining tournaments. He deserves credit, I didn't expect him to play as well as he did, but suddenly call him the one of the best foreigners after two ZvZ series? Really?

lol
Maruprime.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
November 17 2012 10:11 GMT
#7327
On November 17 2012 19:10 Valikyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:08 emjaytron wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:06 Lylat wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:05 Dodgin wrote:
In other news Leenock has been cheering on Greg on twitter all night, maybe that's why he did so well.

https://twitter.com/FXOleenock

Lol this is cute, I thought koeans didn't really liked Idra !


Well it could just be that Leenock of all people should recognise good zvz

Nah that can't be it. Leenock is involved in this conspiracy. John the Translator, Church of Satan and Illuminati too.

100% agree.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Astro-Penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
554 Posts
November 17 2012 10:11 GMT
#7328
Man the internet should require a test like a drivers license, only available to those who pass a test on how to ignore/handle trolls, attention seekers will leave if no attention is given
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
November 17 2012 10:11 GMT
#7329
On November 17 2012 19:09 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:07 Derrida wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Ziggitz wrote:
How dense are you people. You wanna throw a series? Two games up to maxed armies with elaborate army positioning and backstabs is not the way to do it. 10 pool vs 16 hatch 16 gas 17 pool is how you do it.


Your argument makes no sense, that would be very obvious and fuel the paranoias of conspiracy theorists.


Yeah, and it would lead to him potentially getting caught if he made it obvious. It's not difficult to simply play worse later in the game...

DISCLAIMER: I am once again not saying that I think Stephano threw it, but people are using such flawed logic to make it seem like it somehow isn't a possibility.


I think there's a possibility that you're retarded. I'm not saying you are, but it's still possible.
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
November 17 2012 10:11 GMT
#7330
would idra be the best zvz player this event?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
November 17 2012 10:11 GMT
#7331
imagine idra winning the WCS, just imagine it
heaveshade
Profile Joined March 2011
China330 Posts
November 17 2012 10:11 GMT
#7332
let's have a scary gracken on home page :D
broodmann
Profile Joined December 2011
604 Posts
November 17 2012 10:11 GMT
#7333
On November 17 2012 19:09 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:06 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Vandrad wrote:
lol at you conspiracy nuts - stephano tried everything to win.


Ugh... this is just frustrating. I am not saying Stephano threw the games, but it frustrates me to see people who say that they KNOW he did, and also people acting like it isn't a possibility whatsoever.

Stephano HAS TRIED TO THROW GAMES IN THE PAST!!! Why can't everyone just accept the fact that he may have, and also accept the fact that they don't know if he actually did it. It would be so much more sensible..........


Actually, the sensible thing to do is to assume both players played their best.



Then Stephano sure has gotten a lot worse lately
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
November 17 2012 10:11 GMT
#7334
On November 17 2012 19:09 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:06 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Vandrad wrote:
lol at you conspiracy nuts - stephano tried everything to win.


Ugh... this is just frustrating. I am not saying Stephano threw the games, but it frustrates me to see people who say that they KNOW he did, and also people acting like it isn't a possibility whatsoever.

Stephano HAS TRIED TO THROW GAMES IN THE PAST!!! Why can't everyone just accept the fact that he may have, and also accept the fact that they don't know if he actually did it. It would be so much more sensible..........


Actually, the sensible thing to do is to assume both players played their best.



Well, that's what I am assuming... but I am also being reasonable by acknowledging the fact that it is a possibility that they did not in the interests of winning $100k. That's all. It just bothers me that everyone seems so ignorant of that being a very real possibility.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
November 17 2012 10:11 GMT
#7335
The last couple of pages have had some good lols.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
November 17 2012 10:12 GMT
#7336
On November 17 2012 19:11 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:09 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:07 Derrida wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Ziggitz wrote:
How dense are you people. You wanna throw a series? Two games up to maxed armies with elaborate army positioning and backstabs is not the way to do it. 10 pool vs 16 hatch 16 gas 17 pool is how you do it.


Your argument makes no sense, that would be very obvious and fuel the paranoias of conspiracy theorists.


Yeah, and it would lead to him potentially getting caught if he made it obvious. It's not difficult to simply play worse later in the game...

DISCLAIMER: I am once again not saying that I think Stephano threw it, but people are using such flawed logic to make it seem like it somehow isn't a possibility.


I think there's a possibility that you're retarded. I'm not saying you are, but it's still possible.


LOL!
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1220 Posts
November 17 2012 10:12 GMT
#7337
I woke up to find my world of predictions turned upside-down. I'm happy though, I was thoroughly dissapointed to have to label idra as a 0-4 in my group predictions... Christmas arrived early. Thanks, grack!
sc2pal
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland624 Posts
November 17 2012 10:12 GMT
#7338
ahahaha the front page 10/10
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
November 17 2012 10:12 GMT
#7339
Well, once more. Stephano played pretty sloppy. He missed a lot of injects since the midgame, if you could check how much energy his Queens had. Also, his APM was pretty low the entire time, you should have checked how often he clicks his keyboard, usually he's by far faster.
I'm not saying IdrA played bad, no way. He played really well, but I'm saying that Stephano played this not that good as he usually does, guess I'm not the only one who think so.
750/750 emotions fully stacked
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
November 17 2012 10:12 GMT
#7340
On November 17 2012 19:11 broodmann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:09 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:06 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Vandrad wrote:
lol at you conspiracy nuts - stephano tried everything to win.


Ugh... this is just frustrating. I am not saying Stephano threw the games, but it frustrates me to see people who say that they KNOW he did, and also people acting like it isn't a possibility whatsoever.

Stephano HAS TRIED TO THROW GAMES IN THE PAST!!! Why can't everyone just accept the fact that he may have, and also accept the fact that they don't know if he actually did it. It would be so much more sensible..........


Actually, the sensible thing to do is to assume both players played their best.



Then Stephano sure has gotten a lot worse lately


His ZvZ was never as good as his ZvP or ZvT.
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