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Vandrad
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany951 Posts
November 17 2012 10:21 GMT
#7421
"Nah that can't be it. Leenock is involved in this conspiracy. John the Translator, Church of Satan and Illuminati too."

haha yes :D
And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low?
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
November 17 2012 10:22 GMT
#7422
On November 17 2012 19:19 thepuppyassassin wrote:
please correct me if i'm wrong. but didn't stephano once say he only plays sc2 for the money? what's with this forced projecting of community principles onto a player who's vocalized indifference towards them. Stephano is an individual, with a bevy of personal opinions and motivations. Oh yea.It's a 100k dollars. It's not unthinkable.



The tards would probably say that EG offered him more than 100k or something to throw.

They will find a way.
brofestor
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore101 Posts
November 17 2012 10:22 GMT
#7423
On November 17 2012 19:20 Mackus wrote:
Lucifron is really frustrating me he's on 10 Vikings and still producing and there's not a single Corruptor in sight


more frustrating is how zerg is still in the game when 100 supply behind...WINFESTOR LOL

User was banned for this post.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
November 17 2012 10:22 GMT
#7424
On November 17 2012 19:21 mememolly wrote:
idra will play Rain most likely then? rofl, gl with that grack

ya, odds are he will hit a brick wall when that MU comes up.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
November 17 2012 10:22 GMT
#7425
On November 17 2012 19:20 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:19 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:15 Integra wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:14 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:13 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:11 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:09 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:06 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Vandrad wrote:
lol at you conspiracy nuts - stephano tried everything to win.


Ugh... this is just frustrating. I am not saying Stephano threw the games, but it frustrates me to see people who say that they KNOW he did, and also people acting like it isn't a possibility whatsoever.

Stephano HAS TRIED TO THROW GAMES IN THE PAST!!! Why can't everyone just accept the fact that he may have, and also accept the fact that they don't know if he actually did it. It would be so much more sensible..........


Actually, the sensible thing to do is to assume both players played their best.



Well, that's what I am assuming... but I am also being reasonable by acknowledging the fact that it is a possibility that they did not in the interests of winning $100k. That's all. It just bothers me that everyone seems so ignorant of that being a very real possibility.


Uhh, that's not being reasonable at all.


It's not reasonable to acknowledge that a player may lose a game in the interests of having an easier path to the finals (when they can look ahead in the bracket)? Please explain why.

That's not what he said, you just made that up.


I may have misinterpreted what he said, but I am not just making things up. In fact, he responded directly towards what I said after you posted this, implying that it was what he meant. Otherwise he would have said "No, that's not what I was saying."

On November 17 2012 19:16 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:14 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:13 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:11 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:09 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:06 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Vandrad wrote:
lol at you conspiracy nuts - stephano tried everything to win.


Ugh... this is just frustrating. I am not saying Stephano threw the games, but it frustrates me to see people who say that they KNOW he did, and also people acting like it isn't a possibility whatsoever.

Stephano HAS TRIED TO THROW GAMES IN THE PAST!!! Why can't everyone just accept the fact that he may have, and also accept the fact that they don't know if he actually did it. It would be so much more sensible..........


Actually, the sensible thing to do is to assume both players played their best.



Well, that's what I am assuming... but I am also being reasonable by acknowledging the fact that it is a possibility that they did not in the interests of winning $100k. That's all. It just bothers me that everyone seems so ignorant of that being a very real possibility.


Uhh, that's not being reasonable at all.


It's not reasonable to acknowledge that a player may lose a game in the interests of having an easier path to the finals (when they can look ahead in the bracket)? Please explain why.


Because you're assuming the worst out of players without any substantial evidence whatsoever.


I am not assuming the worst. I am assuming that they both tried to win. How is that assuming the worst? I am just acknowledging that the players had the opportunity to behave poorly. Why? Because they did due to Blizzard's predetermined brackets. In addition, Stephano has tried it in the past, so it really isn't fair to completely rule it out as a possibility, which many people in this thread are.

And you keep making up or assuming stuff, LOL.


And you keep making responses like this which add no value or even attempt to point out what I am "making up." You already claimed I made something up, yet the person I responded to didn't even say that. You know more about what he intended with his message than what he was saying?
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 17 2012 10:22 GMT
#7426
On November 17 2012 19:20 AndAgain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:17 Fionn wrote:
Yeah, it was quite funny when they showed APM during the middle of the game and Idra was at 250+ and Stephano peaked at 60.


I only caught the ending of the game. If this is true, it's pretty overwhelming evidence that he threw the game.


There is a difference between throwing a game and playing casually.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
November 17 2012 10:22 GMT
#7427
On November 17 2012 19:20 AndAgain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:17 Fionn wrote:
Yeah, it was quite funny when they showed APM during the middle of the game and Idra was at 250+ and Stephano peaked at 60.


I only caught the ending of the game. If this is true, it's pretty overwhelming evidence that he threw the game.


no its not they showed if for a few secs and at that point the game was pretty much over
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
November 17 2012 10:22 GMT
#7428
I miss terrans and especially tvt, and I'm not even a terran player
#1 Grubby Fan.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 17 2012 10:23 GMT
#7429
Zerg never loses a base trade.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
tylerf
Profile Joined March 2012
739 Posts
November 17 2012 10:23 GMT
#7430
Regarding _if_ Stephano threw: Giving up one out of two chances to advance is idiotic, no matter how much of a sure thing he and everyone else thinks beating HerO might be. Nothing is a sure thing.
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 10:23:55
November 17 2012 10:23 GMT
#7431
On November 17 2012 19:21 mememolly wrote:
idra will play Rain most likely then? rofl, gl with that grack

This is the same response people gave about IdrA getting out of his group. Well 4-0 says it all.

Idk who to cheer for if its Rain vs IdrA though D:
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
DontNerfInfestors
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain280 Posts
November 17 2012 10:23 GMT
#7432
Question: will Her0 have to play Rain if IdrA throws the games away?
Please dont nerf them.Infestors are fine.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 17 2012 10:23 GMT
#7433
Hero and curious sends eachother flying back to one base, curious has little tech but hero has no colossi vs infestor ling.
Glorious SEA doto
Came Norrection
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada168 Posts
November 17 2012 10:23 GMT
#7434
EG curse on stephano.
"The lie is just a great story ruined by the truth."
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
November 17 2012 10:23 GMT
#7435
On November 17 2012 19:22 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:19 thepuppyassassin wrote:
please correct me if i'm wrong. but didn't stephano once say he only plays sc2 for the money? what's with this forced projecting of community principles onto a player who's vocalized indifference towards them. Stephano is an individual, with a bevy of personal opinions and motivations. Oh yea.It's a 100k dollars. It's not unthinkable.



The tards would probably say that EG offered him more than 100k or something to throw.

They will find a way.


I don't think you follow his argument.
#1 Grubby Fan.
Asmodeusx
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 10:23:47
November 17 2012 10:23 GMT
#7436
On November 17 2012 19:20 AndAgain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:17 Fionn wrote:
Yeah, it was quite funny when they showed APM during the middle of the game and Idra was at 250+ and Stephano peaked at 60.


I only caught the ending of the game. If this is true, it's pretty overwhelming evidence that he threw the game.


As much as sky not falling on out heads is an evidence for god. Not.
Hermetis Vögelein ist mein Nahm verlahs meine Flügel und werde zahm.
McVities
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom36 Posts
November 17 2012 10:23 GMT
#7437
Answer me this people calling out the game as fixed. Why would you give up a guaranteed (as you seem to think anyway) route to the RO16 when ZvP is your best match up anyway against potentially not even making it out of the group?

(or have I understood the format incorrectly)
I only know my mind, I am mine.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
November 17 2012 10:23 GMT
#7438
It makes me so sad to see Moonglades current style of ZvZ getting beaten by lots of powerful roaches
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
November 17 2012 10:23 GMT
#7439
Really hoping Grubby advances!
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 17 2012 10:23 GMT
#7440
On November 17 2012 19:23 DontNerfInfestors wrote:
Question: will Her0 have to play Rain if IdrA throws the games away?


Hero can't play Rain. If Hero beats Stephano, he'll face BabyKnight.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
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