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ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
November 17 2012 10:24 GMT
#7441
On November 17 2012 19:18 McVities wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:12 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:10 McVities wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:09 -Strider- wrote:
Its a shame that Idra will have to play the tournament winner u_u


lold so hard. I'd fear someone BK 2-0'd too.


I lol'd too. I heard PvP is a very solid and well rounded matchup, and I also heard Idra's ZvP is amazing. He'll beat Rain no worries, he actually let DRG take games off of him ha ha ha


Sorry ShAdZ_ZX I should probably clarify as my previous post was misleading. Rain is going to beat Idra. Sure. That's a given. His ZvP is atrocious. But Rain being the tournament winner is where my loling came from.


Ah I see. Probably stupid of me to layer my post so heavily in sarcasm. My misinterpretation of your post was just quite humorous to me that's all.
grifterfm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States28 Posts
November 17 2012 10:24 GMT
#7442
So you pick the one time they showed Stephano's APM at 60 when very other time he was near 300. I've never seen so much selective bs.
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
November 17 2012 10:24 GMT
#7443
On November 17 2012 19:16 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:14 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:13 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:11 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:09 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:06 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Vandrad wrote:
lol at you conspiracy nuts - stephano tried everything to win.


Ugh... this is just frustrating. I am not saying Stephano threw the games, but it frustrates me to see people who say that they KNOW he did, and also people acting like it isn't a possibility whatsoever.

Stephano HAS TRIED TO THROW GAMES IN THE PAST!!! Why can't everyone just accept the fact that he may have, and also accept the fact that they don't know if he actually did it. It would be so much more sensible..........


Actually, the sensible thing to do is to assume both players played their best.



Well, that's what I am assuming... but I am also being reasonable by acknowledging the fact that it is a possibility that they did not in the interests of winning $100k. That's all. It just bothers me that everyone seems so ignorant of that being a very real possibility.


Uhh, that's not being reasonable at all.


It's not reasonable to acknowledge that a player may lose a game in the interests of having an easier path to the finals (when they can look ahead in the bracket)? Please explain why.


Because you're assuming the worst out of players without any substantial evidence whatsoever.


and you are assuming all players are angels? It's absurd to think that the thought of throwing the game did not cross Stephano's mind and did not affect his gameplay at all. Players play to win. $100k on the line. You do what you have to do to give yourself the biggest chance to win it all. I am not saying it's wrong. I think it's a smart move for Stephano. Most of us would do the same when in his position.
StickyIcky
Profile Joined September 2012
United States192 Posts
November 17 2012 10:24 GMT
#7444
EG going to risk their best shot at overall victory just to get another player in the Ro16? lolwut
Stephano going to risk $100,000 to make IdrA feel better? lolwut

Enjoy the games for what they are and try not to think too much if you aren't any good at it.
Toilet paper is for pussies
heaveshade
Profile Joined March 2011
China330 Posts
November 17 2012 10:24 GMT
#7445
so, stephano is trying to dodge Rain in R16?
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 17 2012 10:24 GMT
#7446
On November 17 2012 19:23 DontNerfInfestors wrote:
Question: will Her0 have to play Rain if IdrA throws the games away?


It´s GSL style groups. If HerO beats Stephano, he will play BabyK, if he loses, he is out.
FindMeInKenya
Profile Joined February 2011
United States797 Posts
November 17 2012 10:24 GMT
#7447
I predict Grubby to win against SEn because SEn wanted a easier bracket
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33701 Posts
November 17 2012 10:24 GMT
#7448
Lucifron vs Lowely - Game One - Cloud Kingdom

Lowely decided he would rush up to brood lords off of three bases with just lings and infestors to defend, but Lucifron wasn't going to let that happen. Massing up a large group of marines, tanks, and meviacs, Lucifron hit Lowely when he was the weakest, destroying his third base and dealing a massive amount of economic damage. Lowely hung around the game for a while, but could only delay his doom.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
November 17 2012 10:24 GMT
#7449
On November 17 2012 19:21 MangoMountain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:19 thepuppyassassin wrote:
please correct me if i'm wrong. but didn't stephano once say he only plays sc2 for the money? what's with this forced projecting of community principles onto a player who's vocalized indifference towards them. Stephano is an individual, with a bevy of personal opinions and motivations. Oh yea.It's a 100k dollars. It's not unthinkable.


He's on EG, money isn't a problem for him anymore. If he does it and it works out, he gets a slightly better bracket. If he gets caught, his entire career is over. Seems reasonable to you?



the risk is pretty much counterbalanced by the fact that, in most cases, throwing a match is almost impossible to prove.
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
November 17 2012 10:24 GMT
#7450
That was close. Nerchio sniped the hatch with the last roach shot.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 17 2012 10:25 GMT
#7451
Curious kills the warp prism and its zealots, setting up a second base as hero is stuck on one base, blink stalker count depleting quickly, no colossi looks terrible for hero.
Glorious SEA doto
DontNerfInfestors
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain280 Posts
November 17 2012 10:25 GMT
#7452
On November 17 2012 19:23 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:23 DontNerfInfestors wrote:
Question: will Her0 have to play Rain if IdrA throws the games away?


Hero can't play Rain. If Hero beats Stephano, he'll face BabyKnight.

ahhh ok
Please dont nerf them.Infestors are fine.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
November 17 2012 10:25 GMT
#7453
On November 17 2012 19:22 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:20 AndAgain wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:17 Fionn wrote:
Yeah, it was quite funny when they showed APM during the middle of the game and Idra was at 250+ and Stephano peaked at 60.


I only caught the ending of the game. If this is true, it's pretty overwhelming evidence that he threw the game.


There is a difference between throwing a game and playing casually.


And in the same game they show the apm again and stephano had above 400 and idra above 300. You can always catch a moment in every game where the apms shown are low.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
November 17 2012 10:25 GMT
#7454
On November 17 2012 19:19 MangoMountain wrote:

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:11 Chicane wrote:

Well, that's what I am assuming... but I am also being reasonable by acknowledging the fact that it is a possibility that they did not in the interests of winning $100k. That's all. It just bothers me that everyone seems so ignorant of that being a very real possibility.

It's not a "very real possibility" because stephano isn't a dumbass. The Assembly thing with bratok was completely obvious and done in a joking way. I doubt millennium cared much about it. Fixing matches in a 100k tourney organized by fucking blizzard while you're on the (arguably) most high-profile team in sc2 and you have tens of thousands of people watching you on stream and in person, just to get a slightly better bracket is insanely stupid

Well it's not since there are people like you te defend them in every possible way Moreover this is like impossible to prove on so, not that stupid.

Anyway the only person who should whine there, if there is a suspicion is BabyKnight, beat Rain 2-0, get first of his group to meet Stephano or Hero :-/
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
November 17 2012 10:25 GMT
#7455
On November 17 2012 19:24 grifterfm wrote:
So you pick the one time they showed Stephano's APM at 60 when very other time he was near 300. I've never seen so much selective bs.

seriously. i bet in some of those games that DRG played at that mlg arena where he was spiking at 600 apm there were times where he was at 60~ apm.
Maruprime.
ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
November 17 2012 10:25 GMT
#7456
On November 17 2012 19:24 grifterfm wrote:
So you pick the one time they showed Stephano's APM at 60 when very other time he was near 300. I've never seen so much selective bs.


You obviously haven't watched the games from Stephano's POV. His APM was low all game...
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
November 17 2012 10:25 GMT
#7457
AMOUNT OF FUCKS GIVEN = ZERO

IDRA BEAST MODE #YOLO
kinglemon
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany199 Posts
November 17 2012 10:25 GMT
#7458
On November 17 2012 19:22 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:20 AndAgain wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:17 Fionn wrote:
Yeah, it was quite funny when they showed APM during the middle of the game and Idra was at 250+ and Stephano peaked at 60.


I only caught the ending of the game. If this is true, it's pretty overwhelming evidence that he threw the game.


There is a difference between throwing a game and playing casually.


what's the difference ?

mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
November 17 2012 10:25 GMT
#7459
any idea when Scarlett's next match is going to be on?
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
November 17 2012 10:25 GMT
#7460
Wow, i didn't thought that foreigners would do so well here! Congratz to Titan, Babyknight and IdrA!
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
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