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Can't go to lunch without coming back to 20+ reports. This makes me upset. Stop the bullshit or get ready to hammered. Thanks --Pholon |
On December 13 2011 21:16 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 21:15 TheHova wrote:On December 13 2011 21:13 AIOL! wrote:On December 13 2011 21:11 harobi wrote:On December 13 2011 21:06 trucane wrote: Lol at all the haters. Why should he even bother with a completely pointless game? Blame GOM instead for first making this whole shit bo1s and then forcing players to play pointless matches blame gom blame gom blame gom. that how stephano threw his game away after being 0-2 in his groups in dreamhack winter. blame gom????? Stephano wasn't casted buddy; nothing similar here. So it's okay if you don't casted? That's not disrepectful to the viewers, and even if he 8 pooled once, the other game he tried mass lings and won I think.
Twice, and it's disrespectful to the competition. Viewers are so self-important.
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Honestly to help professionalize esports even more I think it would be cool for gom to ban Naniwa and show that this behavior isn't acceptable, because frankly it isnt.
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On December 13 2011 21:15 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 21:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 13 2011 21:13 Onox wrote: I think gom should penalize him imo you would get penalized in any sport for doing something like that. i agree No you wouldn't. A worker rush is a perfectly valid strat.
He didn't even make an effort to win this game . He just moved his workers in and died .
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While I don't expect Naniwa to ever take responsibility like CoCa did, or get punished as severely as CoCa did, GOM has an obligation to their viewers, both who watch for free and pay, to punish Naniwa in some way. Rain was kicked out of GSL for missing his group selection without giving any excuse and Naniwa had no excuse to throw a game away in that manner in a setting as professional as the Blizzard Cup.
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On December 13 2011 21:17 Benjef wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 21:17 FuRong wrote: If Polt wins this then we go to tiebreakers. GSL uses head to head rules not tiebreakers. It's a cicular tie though Polt > MMA MMA > Leenock Leenock > Polt
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On December 13 2011 21:16 Executor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 21:13 centinel4 wrote: poor guy... he is still a frustrated child. I as an SC2 fan feel disrespected by naniwa. I pay for a ticket to watch pros play. his lack of profesionalism is just sad. agreed, maybe the people who dont care about it are watching the free stream. Honestly i beleive that after all that trash talk, he got afraid he was going to lose and after losing 3 games already today he just decided to bitch out of his pride match. #Naniwa'sapussy hashtag it now! I paid for the full no-ad experience for this cup and I'm just really amused by it. The people getting super buttmad about it are the kids going around spamming THIS IS RUINING ESPORTS. Match really shouldn't have been played in the first place.
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On December 13 2011 21:14 Crashburn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 21:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 13 2011 21:13 Onox wrote: I think gom should penalize him imo you would get penalized in any sport for doing something like that. i agree How can you both be from the US and say that? That wouldn't happen in any of the four major sports in the US.
Are you high? You get penalized for show-boating in the NFL. WTF are you talking about? Can you imagine the shitstorm a team would get if they blatantly threw a game? You know how much effort and money is at stake each game? Wtf is wrong with YOU?
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- Naniwa added humor to these games - Naniwa knew these games have no effect on the standings, and this will let the next game come up faster
The naniwa haters are just twisting it to make him look worse than he really is.
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Why is everyone flaming Naniwa?!!? He stood up for what he believes in and that takes real courage! He couldn't bare the shame after losing to the thor rush and gom forced him to play a game after he has already lost? Let the man walk away with what ever pride he has left instead of forcing him to play for the fans.
Naniwa is the champion of esports!
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On December 13 2011 21:17 zeru wrote: I wonder if people would cry this much over some zerg doing a 6 pool. << No, because 6 pool is a viable strat. Cross map probe rush isnt.
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On December 13 2011 21:17 theBizness wrote: It's hilarious the difference in attitudes towards cheese between foreigners and Koreans... and you wonder why foreigners struggle so hard against basic stuff you see on KR ladder all the time.
True ... we think cheese is weak, whereas they realise the strength.
I think we look at it from the perspective of talent and skill, rather than build order winning. I'd argue winning is probably the best thing to do, and Korean's get that. However, it would be interesting if a foreigner went cheese crazy (and succeeded) against the best Korean's. What would we all say?
How fickle we all are
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On December 13 2011 21:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 21:17 Crashburn wrote:On December 13 2011 21:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 13 2011 21:14 Crashburn wrote:On December 13 2011 21:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 13 2011 21:13 Onox wrote: I think gom should penalize him imo you would get penalized in any sport for doing something like that. i agree How can you both be from the US and say that? That wouldn't happen in any of the four major sports in the US. people get fined and penalized all the time for doing stupid stuff in US sports. I don't get where you're coming from That wasn't your argument, clown. ok if a football team went out and just stood there and let another nfl team score 100 points, they would probably get fined or penalized in some fashion. however, it wont happen in a major sport because of the consequences. better?
Terrible argument because A) you completely made it up and B) it isn't true. Have you ever watched a .400 baseball team in late September? They play their Triple-A scrubs in the starting lineup.
GTFO
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On December 13 2011 21:17 zeru wrote: I wonder if people would cry this much over some zerg doing a 6 pool. << i hope you know the diffence between 6 pool and what naniwa did.
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On December 13 2011 21:17 Spekulatius wrote: I'm not a fan of Naniwa, but I liked that move. Why play a game that gets you nowhere when you've been constantly all-inned in the previous matches? To me it shows character and I like that. Not everyone is a machine. And if someone has to suffer from the sucky system, why does it have to be the players?
Sucks for the fans, that could have become a great match if both had played with full motivation. But I fully understand Naniwa's anger.
I'm on this guy's page...Naniwa has a personality (good or bad),deal with it.
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On December 13 2011 21:18 myth_au wrote:If anyone really wants to complain about what Naniwa did contact quantic.. See link below. I know i willl be complaining. http://www.quanticgaming.com/contact
Yeah, what a great idea to spam their email with this. Just let it be IMO.
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To be honest I couldn't care less for a meaningless game, both players wouldn't play their best anyway. Watch Hero's last game yesterday, it was a sad display.
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On December 13 2011 21:17 Benjef wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 21:17 FuRong wrote: If Polt wins this then we go to tiebreakers. GSL uses head to head rules not tiebreakers. yep, but MMA > Leenock > Polt. So if Polt wins vs. MMA now there have to be tiebreakers.
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On December 13 2011 21:07 DrakeFZX3 wrote: Was it just me or did the Korean commentators look........disappointed?
The Korean casters were definitely annoyed. I mean, think about it. They know nothing about this guy and he just pulls this on live TV... though it's hilarious for some of Naniwa's fans, to pull this on live paid television with everything set up just for the players, is kinda disrespectful.
On December 13 2011 21:07 phodacbiet wrote: Naniwa just earned a ban from Gom
... I wouldn't be surprised... I can imagine how pissed the Korean GOM execs are right now. That was a pretty stupid move by Naniwa.
On December 13 2011 21:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: No respect to viewers, producers, casters and anyone else involved in making this tournament a success.
QFT.
Naniwa made a rage decision and it's going to cost him in one way or another.
Everyone's gotta think about this from the perspective of all the sponsors, TV companies, executives, workers, players, and fans who have poured so much heart and physical money into this tournament. People PAID to see Naniwa VS Nestea, and the LEAST Naniwa could have done is played an actual game (cannon rush, whatever) to at least satisfy those people.
I'm also worried about the foreigner image now. What do the koreans think about foreigners?
Idra = ragequitter Naniwa = ragequitter
The only 'proper and manner' foreigners are Huk and Jinro, but they're virtually literal Koreans after they've spent so much time in Korea, I think the Koreans think of them as their own.
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On December 13 2011 21:13 roymarthyup wrote: wait a second. naniwa is 0-10 in gsl and still code S? what?
that should be impossible right. naniwa was out of code S i thought?
or does he play up/downs or something?
He got it for being second in MLG!
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On December 13 2011 21:17 zeru wrote: I wonder if people would cry this much over some zerg doing a 6 pool. <<
6 pool wins games probe rush does not .
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