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Can't go to lunch without coming back to 20+ reports. This makes me upset. Stop the bullshit or get ready to hammered. Thanks --Pholon
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
December 13 2011 12:17 GMT
#4461
On December 13 2011 21:17 FuRong wrote:
If Polt wins this then we go to tiebreakers.

GSL uses head to head rules not tiebreakers.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
marmuc
Profile Joined August 2011
110 Posts
December 13 2011 12:17 GMT
#4462
so did naniwa get invited to the tournament?
Rybaia
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy213 Posts
December 13 2011 12:17 GMT
#4463
I actually feel bad for Quantic Gaming.
Lyndsay
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom40 Posts
December 13 2011 12:17 GMT
#4464
On December 13 2011 21:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
No respect to viewers, producers, casters and anyone else involved in making this tournament a success.

If there were betting lines out of these matches it's absolutely unacceptable regarding that as well. I doubt Naniwa researched that so it's morally the same decision.


I totally agree with you.
I was sitting wondering what i would do if i were his manager or anything to do with Quantic Gaming and i don't think he can get away with doing such a thing with any repercussions.

Do you have an opinion or thoughts on how things such as this could be combated as a member of one of the most loved teams and players?
theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
December 13 2011 12:17 GMT
#4465
It's hilarious the difference in attitudes towards cheese between foreigners and Koreans... and you wonder why foreigners struggle so hard against basic stuff you see on KR ladder all the time.
Less money for casters, more money for players.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
December 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#4466
Naniwa has one thing going for him - he has personality and creates drama, and if there's one thing that attracts viewers like moths to a flame, it's personality and drama (hence the reason IdrA has so many fans and anti-fans).

That doesn't mean he did the right thing.
coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
December 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#4467
On December 13 2011 21:17 Severian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:14 ambrosiaa wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:13 HolydaKing wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:09 ambrosiaa wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:07 Yaki wrote:
I am gonna fucking complain to GOMTV about that, I paid for that shit.

dont be so spoilt. that was just 1 match which didnt even matter.

it did matter. we wanted to see naniwa vs nestea rematch. a 7 pool by nestea would've been a legit strategy for example, however what naniwa did cannot work.

I understand, naniwa only cares about winning, he doesnt play to appease his fans, and there's nothing wrong with that. gom probably forced him to play the match even though there was no reason to.

Being able to play this game professionally is not a privilege. If you piss everyone off doing stuff like this, it won't matter how good you are; people won't want to watch you, sponsors won't want to give you money, and events won't want you to waste airtime. Players realistically play for the viewers, not for themselves.


True, though if you piss people off just right, you'll be the biggest and most infamous player. Usually a lot more money in that.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
December 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#4468
On December 13 2011 21:10 MayorITC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:06 Ryuuka wrote:
Why should he even play, that game had NO meaning what so ever. I respect Naniwas decision.


1. Sportsmanship
2. He had the opportunity to earn money, partially funded by people who pay to watch the games.
3. It's not just about him. If Nestea is going to take the time to play against him, the casters are taking the time to cast the game and GomTV is taking the time to broadcast the match, then he should play. That selfish mentality is the whole reason people label Naniwa as immature. There's nothing wrong with that kind of behavior on the ladder, but when you're a PROFESSIONAL player, there's a certain code of conduct people are expected to follow.


1. he forfeited - I guess that´s his right is it not?
2. nobody forced them to pay for it - they want to get something out of it as well and actually do with this little stunt.
3.obviously it is - because people are watching and give a damn about him making a show - even PAYING for it.

really don´t understand how people get so upset about that brilliant, probably unintended, PR stunt.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
December 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#4469
On December 13 2011 21:07 Benjef wrote:
Idra and Naniwa have very similar mentalities... yet people hate naniwa and love idra?

Yeah, Idra went through group selections and then left Korea, forfeiting all of his Code S games and ruining his group. I think Nani's move is about the same. At least he could have done a mothership rush or something if he didn't want to play seriously.
$♥$
Wedberg
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden169 Posts
December 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#4470
Seriously, who cares? If you're pissed you didn't get to see a proper game, blame Gom for not scheduling them earlier. I'd be pissed too if I had to play a worthless game..
TheBamf
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark366 Posts
December 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#4471
On December 13 2011 21:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
No respect to viewers, producers, casters and anyone else involved in making this tournament a success.

If there were betting lines out of these matches it's absolutely unacceptable regarding that as well. I doubt Naniwa researched that so it's morally the same decision.


Well-said, never have a gringed so much over a game. I was thoroughly expecting them to atleast try for the fans, I guess that tells a lot about Naniwa though.
IM.Nestea | IM.MvP | MvP.DongRaeGu. | Genius | ST.Parting I SlayerS.MMA
Zannadar
Profile Joined March 2011
Turkey294 Posts
December 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#4472
On December 13 2011 21:17 FreudianTrip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
No respect to viewers, producers, casters and anyone else involved in making this tournament a success.

If there were betting lines out of these matches it's absolutely unacceptable regarding that as well. I doubt Naniwa researched that so it's morally the same decision.


+1's aren't allowed so here's me saying I agree.

That is a joke. I hope people share their feelings with @QuanticGaming



Hell yes. I really hope he gets a serious warning or a penalty from GOM.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
December 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#4473
On December 13 2011 21:16 Full.tilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
No respect to viewers, producers, casters and anyone else involved in making this tournament a success.

If there were betting lines out of these matches it's absolutely unacceptable regarding that as well. I doubt Naniwa researched that so it's morally the same decision.


He played in the tournament, the tournament was over for him and his opponent. The result has no effect on who goes through or who goes out. MC arguably not trying so Stephano got knocked out is more significant than this situation.


You just gave Nazgul the best counter argument. MC played his absolute butt off when he had nothing to gain.
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
December 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#4474
On December 13 2011 21:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
No respect to viewers, producers, casters and anyone else involved in making this tournament a success.

If there were betting lines out of these matches it's absolutely unacceptable regarding that as well. I doubt Naniwa researched that so it's morally the same decision.

Pff, broadcasting games that dont matter is stupid, they dont do it in Up and Downs, I was surprised they did it here, and probably only did it because the players it was.
Yomi-no-Kuni
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany333 Posts
December 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#4475
should've just made it a fun show match instead of this...
also entertaining, but not as controversial
SaoPaulo
Profile Joined December 2011
Brazil62 Posts
December 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#4476
I kinda get Naniwa`s frustation. Koreans cheesing all the time is so boring and sad.
smakme7757
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway5 Posts
December 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#4477
Poor form of Naniwa. Even worse that he is in another country where respect is as much a part of the game as losing or winning.

That was a big F*** You to everyone watching that game!
graan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany589 Posts
December 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#4478
On December 13 2011 21:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:13 Onox wrote:
I think gom should penalize him imo

you would get penalized in any sport for doing something like that. i agree


have to agree too, in other sports, if games dont matter and have to be played, everybody involved will at least say they will try and put up a show for the fans.. he didnt care at all.. im sorry thats not excusable for me.
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
December 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#4479
Naniwa going 0-4 makes me happy.

almost entirely because i'd cry if nestea went 0-4.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
December 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#4480
On December 13 2011 21:17 Crashburn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:14 Crashburn wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:13 Onox wrote:
I think gom should penalize him imo

you would get penalized in any sport for doing something like that. i agree


How can you both be from the US and say that? That wouldn't happen in any of the four major sports in the US.

people get fined and penalized all the time for doing stupid stuff in US sports. I don't get where you're coming from


That wasn't your argument, clown.

ok if a football team went out and just stood there and let another nfl team score 100 points, they would probably get fined or penalized in some fashion. however, it wont happen in a major sport because of the consequences. better?
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