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RetoX
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong252 Posts
November 24 2011 23:32 GMT
#4801
Sen played 100% on game vs DeathAngel. DA just has a sick ZvZ
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
November 24 2011 23:33 GMT
#4802
On November 25 2011 08:31 Xcobidoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:28 Daray wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:27 Asha` wrote:
lol @ people not even seeing Sen vs DeathAngel and suggesting Sen tanked the games.

There's a reason to play to win your group you know..?


No there's not. wtf man?

1st and 2nd is all the same this time.

Uhm nope... if you get second you get two of the numbers 1's in other groups and if you get the first place, you get only one other 1st place finisher. So it's not all the same. It could become that way, but this time no...


nowhere in the rules does it say that every group will have 2 #1 and 2 #2 in them.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
November 24 2011 23:33 GMT
#4803
On November 25 2011 08:32 taki_ wrote:
Group O results from Mod on dreamhack stream:

+ Show Spoiler +
Amilkar123: huk won against seala?
Mod Sk_jono: Yeah huk 2 - 1 seala


Yeah the Seala game happened on stream, we just don't know what's going on with seala vs titan and Huk vs eeel
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 23:34:09
November 24 2011 23:33 GMT
#4804
On November 25 2011 08:31 Xcobidoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:28 Daray wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:27 Asha` wrote:
lol @ people not even seeing Sen vs DeathAngel and suggesting Sen tanked the games.

There's a reason to play to win your group you know..?


No there's not. wtf man?

1st and 2nd is all the same this time.

Uhm nope... if you get second you get two of the numbers 1's in other groups and if you get the first place, you get only one other 1st place finisher. So it's not all the same. It could become that way, but this time no...


Aye you're right... i wasn't thinking straight cause no other tournament uses 2 group stages

If they do it like that but if it's random then it doesn't matter.
Razzik
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic21 Posts
November 24 2011 23:34 GMT
#4805
On November 25 2011 08:32 taki_ wrote:
Group O results from Mod on dreamhack stream:

+ Show Spoiler +
Amilkar123: huk won against seala?
Mod Sk_jono: Yeah huk 2 - 1 seala


we saw that live
Starcraft 2 Scoreboard by Razz - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=212726
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
November 24 2011 23:34 GMT
#4806
On November 25 2011 08:20 CursedRich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:18 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:17 enemy2010 wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:15 Tsubbi wrote:
not giving respect to his opponents is part of idra's terrible mindset, he should blame himself and only himself for losing to be able to learn and improve from his losses

Maybe he does blame himself?

How can you say this about someone who "doesnt gg" or seems "bad mannered"?


He does blame himself for losses, he doesn't GG to kas because he doesn't like Kas

He doesn't care what butthurt TL posters say about it either, they are inconsequential.


LOL probably doesn't care what random internet fanboys post either using your logic


LOL ur post is rly dumb because no he doesn't care what random internet fanboys post and he also doesn't care about the butthurt TL posters. It's ur logic that is retarded.
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
November 24 2011 23:34 GMT
#4807
On November 25 2011 08:25 windsupernova wrote:
Lol why do people even bother defending idra?

He doesn´t care about what hsi detractors say and he won´t become your BFF just because you took up the role of his defender.

He didn´t GG, some people didn´t like that. DEAL WITH IT.



LOOOLs.

I don't like that he GGed, but the same logic can apply to people who liked that he didn't GGed and you have to deal with it too. xD

I just find it funny when people throw out the people can think whatever they want logic to a certain side of an argument because it means that that side is thus allowed to think as they please and not deal with it by accepting it just like you're not accepting their disagreement.

Of course, you're free to say as you want, it's just that your logic is kind of... ehhh.
Gameplay > Personality
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
November 24 2011 23:34 GMT
#4808
On November 25 2011 08:33 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:31 Xcobidoo wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:28 Daray wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:27 Asha` wrote:
lol @ people not even seeing Sen vs DeathAngel and suggesting Sen tanked the games.

There's a reason to play to win your group you know..?


No there's not. wtf man?

1st and 2nd is all the same this time.

Uhm nope... if you get second you get two of the numbers 1's in other groups and if you get the first place, you get only one other 1st place finisher. So it's not all the same. It could become that way, but this time no...


nowhere in the rules does it say that every group will have 2 #1 and 2 #2 in them.

Hmm, well it should be. There's no point in playing the games in this manner if it's not...
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4757 Posts
November 24 2011 23:34 GMT
#4809
1st or 2nd is not technically the same. As a 1st seed, you will get mixed with one other 1st and two 2nd seeds. If you get second it is the other way around. Same as in the Ro16, when the 1st gets to play a 2nd place of another group.

Often it does not make much of a difference. But Sen is now second and could with some taff luck be placed against Stephano and Thorzain in the next group-stage. The risk for something like this to happen is obviously lower if you get 1st seed.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 23:36:02
November 24 2011 23:35 GMT
#4810
On November 25 2011 08:31 Neelia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:20 Ace.Xile wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:16 trucane wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:12 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:11 Ace.Xile wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:09 SpiffD wrote:
Idra got 2-0'd by the guy he called terrible just a month ago.



Because a month ago the ONLY reason kas won was because idra didn't scout that he was going some weird ass wonky mass hellion no blue fame build, where he built like 12+ hellions and ran in.


Idra didn't scout what was Kas was doing and that justifies him calling Kas terrible? Really?


Yep Idra fanboys at their finest.


I'm not an idra fanboy just smart enough to realize that the build kas was doing was horrible, and the only reason it worked was because he idra didn't think there was any way he would use some bad build. The build is one of the few builds thats so hard countered it's not even funny. Sweet he made 14 hellions, i'll make 7 roaches and win. It wasn't creative, it wasn't a good build, it was just straight up that idra didn't expect it because it's such a horrible build. If you want to call the fact that kas chose a build and essentially got lucky being good then sure go ahead, but come on really?


I don't know but this post reminds me of Foreigners still suck! : D

haha, seriously.

As if "he only won because he did a build his opponent didn't expect" is supposed to take away from a win. Doing a build the opponent doesn't expect is an excellent strategy to win games. Players like Idra who make strong (metagame) assumptions about the game and their opponent are particularly vulnerable to those. True in BW, true in SC2.

Smart move by Kas.

zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
November 24 2011 23:35 GMT
#4811
On November 25 2011 08:34 Xcobidoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:33 zev318 wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:31 Xcobidoo wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:28 Daray wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:27 Asha` wrote:
lol @ people not even seeing Sen vs DeathAngel and suggesting Sen tanked the games.

There's a reason to play to win your group you know..?


No there's not. wtf man?

1st and 2nd is all the same this time.

Uhm nope... if you get second you get two of the numbers 1's in other groups and if you get the first place, you get only one other 1st place finisher. So it's not all the same. It could become that way, but this time no...


nowhere in the rules does it say that every group will have 2 #1 and 2 #2 in them.

Hmm, well it should be. There's no point in playing the games in this manner if it's not...


i guess u just want to get top2 and thats it
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
November 24 2011 23:36 GMT
#4812
On November 25 2011 08:24 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:20 Quasimoto3000 wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:08 enemy2010 wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:05 Anonymous_Coward wrote:
Idra 2-0d by Kas, wow.

And again Idra doesn't even give a GG, IMO there should be a penalty for not GGing.

On November 25 2011 08:05 Poopi wrote:
Lol seriously IdrA?
Start GGing and maybe you'll have better results.
gg Kas, glad to see him playing good in lan


Do you guys actually read your stuff before you post it?

o.O


I dont understand what was wrong with their posts? They are both expressing their disdain with Idras lack of respect for other players. Additionally, they are implying that perhaps if Idra took more responsibility for his losses, his game would benefit.

You don't see a problem with "start GGing and you'll have better results"

Because that seems to be the most irrelevant factor in determining someones results.

Is that it for the day? On all streams? So depressing

Actually I would not be so sure as if Idra starts GGing that means he at least somewhat started to reign his emotions and that actually might help him win more games.
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
November 24 2011 23:36 GMT
#4813
What about the group drawings? Will they still show them?
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
November 24 2011 23:36 GMT
#4814
Any news on HuK vs Eeel?
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
November 24 2011 23:36 GMT
#4815
Seriously worst logic from you Grubby fans.

If Grubby 2-0'd DA, and should qualify over him...

Then it's Grubby + Sen.

But wait, DA 2-0'd Sen, so he should qualify over him.

Then it's Grubby and DA.

But wait, Sen 2-0'd Grubby...
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
November 24 2011 23:37 GMT
#4816
A lot of fanboys, a lot of dumb posts and a lot of the same questions asked and answered over and over and over again
  • IdrA is BM, get over it
  • Grubby is out, it sucks but it doesn't make the rules unfair. The rules are pretty straight forward and losing more maps in group play doesn't result in any form of injustice.
  • The games will either be played off stream or streamed tomorrow morning (stream starts at 10am CET)
  • Conspiracy theories about Sen throwing games are a waste of oxygen
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
November 24 2011 23:37 GMT
#4817
On November 25 2011 08:33 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:31 Xcobidoo wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:28 Daray wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:27 Asha` wrote:
lol @ people not even seeing Sen vs DeathAngel and suggesting Sen tanked the games.

There's a reason to play to win your group you know..?


No there's not. wtf man?

1st and 2nd is all the same this time.

Uhm nope... if you get second you get two of the numbers 1's in other groups and if you get the first place, you get only one other 1st place finisher. So it's not all the same. It could become that way, but this time no...


nowhere in the rules does it say that every group will have 2 #1 and 2 #2 in them.


It's only logical.
Does it say the opposite anywhere in the rules?
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1359 Posts
November 24 2011 23:37 GMT
#4818
1-0 for huk vs eeel:

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1962755/1/CNǃEeel/matches
Ace.Xile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 23:39:05
November 24 2011 23:37 GMT
#4819
On November 25 2011 08:36 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:24 bkrow wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:20 Quasimoto3000 wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:08 enemy2010 wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:05 Anonymous_Coward wrote:
Idra 2-0d by Kas, wow.

And again Idra doesn't even give a GG, IMO there should be a penalty for not GGing.

On November 25 2011 08:05 Poopi wrote:
Lol seriously IdrA?
Start GGing and maybe you'll have better results.
gg Kas, glad to see him playing good in lan


Do you guys actually read your stuff before you post it?

o.O


I dont understand what was wrong with their posts? They are both expressing their disdain with Idras lack of respect for other players. Additionally, they are implying that perhaps if Idra took more responsibility for his losses, his game would benefit.

You don't see a problem with "start GGing and you'll have better results"

Because that seems to be the most irrelevant factor in determining someones results.

Is that it for the day? On all streams? So depressing

Actually I would not be so sure as if Idra starts GGing that means he at least somewhat started to reign his emotions and that actually might help him win more games.


He only has real issues with a couple people he dislikes (no i'm not saying he's godlike, he just utterly fails with certain individuals). Look at MC, yeah he's great, but straight up i don't think Idra will beat MC anytime soon, that guys cockblocked him more than any other player. Mc loses to people that some people would argue are worse than Idra, but Idras just horribly bad at dealing with frustration against ppl he has personal vendettas against.
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
November 24 2011 23:38 GMT
#4820
On November 25 2011 08:35 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:34 Xcobidoo wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:33 zev318 wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:31 Xcobidoo wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:28 Daray wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:27 Asha` wrote:
lol @ people not even seeing Sen vs DeathAngel and suggesting Sen tanked the games.

There's a reason to play to win your group you know..?


No there's not. wtf man?

1st and 2nd is all the same this time.

Uhm nope... if you get second you get two of the numbers 1's in other groups and if you get the first place, you get only one other 1st place finisher. So it's not all the same. It could become that way, but this time no...


nowhere in the rules does it say that every group will have 2 #1 and 2 #2 in them.

Hmm, well it should be. There's no point in playing the games in this manner if it's not...


i guess u just want to get top2 and thats it

A lot of the groups had decided top 2 after the two first matches, simply no point in using your time to play a, both in theory and practically, worthless game...
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