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On November 25 2011 08:39 hugge wrote:
Dreamhack sc2-admin here.
We are currently playing out all the groups but without streamers due to the time. Really tense. After this we will make the draws of tomorrows groups offline in the player-area as soon as huk vs eeel and seala vs titan is done. Stay tuned on our binarybeast to see the advancing players of today and tomorrows groups.
Cheers.
Nice! Thx for the quick update!
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On November 25 2011 08:39 hugge wrote:
Dreamhack sc2-admin here.
We are currently playing out all the groups but without streamers due to the time. Really tense. After this we will make the draws of tomorrows groups offline in the player-area as soon as huk vs eeel and seala vs titan is done. Stay tuned on our binarybeast to see the advancing players of today and tomorrows groups.
Cheers.
Thx for the info.
Would have like it streemed  .
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On November 25 2011 08:40 VoirDire wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:39 hugge wrote:
Dreamhack sc2-admin here.
We are currently playing out all the groups but without streamers due to the time. Really tense. After this we will make the draws of tomorrows groups offline in the player-area. Stay tuned on our binarybeast to see the advancing players of today and tomorrows groups.
Cheers. Link for the lazy: http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC211111010
thanks for the update, guess no group drawing will be shown live, time to find something else to do 
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On November 25 2011 08:39 hugge wrote:
Dreamhack sc2-admin here.
We are currently playing out all the groups but without streamers due to the time. Really tense. After this we will make the draws of tomorrows groups offline in the player-area as soon as huk vs eeel and seala vs titan is done. Stay tuned on our binarybeast to see the advancing players of today and tomorrows groups.
Cheers.
oh ok
will refresh the brackets :D
cheers!
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Damn / no on-line drawing sucks ;( i was waiting for that ;(
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On November 25 2011 08:38 s4life wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:28 Ace.Xile wrote:On November 25 2011 08:25 Eppa! wrote:On November 25 2011 08:17 Ace.Xile wrote:On November 25 2011 08:14 Seronei wrote:On November 25 2011 08:13 Ace.Xile wrote:On November 25 2011 08:10 tnud wrote:On November 25 2011 08:09 syllogism wrote:On November 25 2011 08:08 HappyChris wrote:On November 25 2011 08:07 syllogism wrote:
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Thorzain is the only EU terran who can actually win something Nahh Kas allways been the best he just got a problem with nerves sometimes and it seems he has figured it out Haha right, we've heard that story repeatedly and he still never wins anything. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1693_Empire.KasHe got 5 pages bro Kas hasn't won anything of any significance with good players. Why do people bother saying well x is so good but he just has nerves. it doesn't matter how good you think someoen is when they can't win anything worthwhile. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Copenhagen_Games_Spring_2011 Second place there. Second place at a tournament where the best people he had to play were grubby and cloud? Yeah he had to play MC but he lost 4-0 People need to win stuff to be considered good? Oz has won jack shit and is codes ro4. Sase has not won one lane tournament. Stephano just won his first big title. Gold medals in lan tournaments are a terrible measurement of skill. Idra has won 0 tournaments in EU. He won one MLG where everyone sucked, and an IEM in china that he barely made it to playoffs against barely any top players. Yes? how can u be considered good if you don't win anything of significance, it's like saying someones good cause they can win a pick up soccer game but can't win a game in the pro leagues to save their life. Go look at Idras compared to Kas achievements and tell me who's more accomplished. Yes you can be good at this game and not win shit, but the point is how good can you really be if you can't stand the pressure of a Lan, and what's the real point of being "good" if you can't do anything with it but win ladder games. You can say all day about how Kas is better than Idra, and who knows maybe Kas can beat idra, but that doesn't mean he's better overall. Haypro beat Nestea, Idra has beaten Haypro tons of times, does that mean Idra is now God of zerg? No. Accomplished != good.. Kas and Idra are both accomplished and good, Kas is a player with a nice attitude, awesome macro and is known for tearing through online tournaments like knife through butter. Idra has not really a nice attitude, good macro too -- but seriously, larva injects make it so easy for any zerg to be a macro player -- and more LAN accomplishments. Kas has beaten Idra in most of their head to head matches ,online and now on LAN. I don't understand how this became a my dad has a bigger d@#k than your dad argument. . .they both top players.
Playing an extremely greedy build, making a ton of barracks, and then making units with MBS isn't exactly hard either. It's not like Kas plays Terran like DDE. Let's not start the whole race mechanics difficulty argument again. They both have good macro, but Idra was out meta-gamed.
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On November 25 2011 08:37 Ace.Xile wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:36 mcc wrote:On November 25 2011 08:24 bkrow wrote:On November 25 2011 08:20 Quasimoto3000 wrote:On November 25 2011 08:08 enemy2010 wrote:On November 25 2011 08:05 Anonymous_Coward wrote:
Idra 2-0d by Kas, wow.
And again Idra doesn't even give a GG, IMO there should be a penalty for not GGing. On November 25 2011 08:05 Poopi wrote:
Lol seriously IdrA?
Start GGing and maybe you'll have better results.
gg Kas, glad to see him playing good in lan Do you guys actually read your stuff before you post it? o.O I dont understand what was wrong with their posts? They are both expressing their disdain with Idras lack of respect for other players. Additionally, they are implying that perhaps if Idra took more responsibility for his losses, his game would benefit. You don't see a problem with "start GGing and you'll have better results" Because that seems to be the most irrelevant factor in determining someones results. Is that it for the day? On all streams? So depressing  Actually I would not be so sure as if Idra starts GGing that means he at least somewhat started to reign his emotions and that actually might help him win more games. He only has real issues with a couple people he dislikes (no i'm not saying he's godlike, he just utterly fails with certain individuals). Look at MC, yeah he's great, but straight up i don't think Idra will beat MC anytime soon, that guys cockblocked him more than any other player. Mc loses to people that some people would argue are worse than Idra, but Idras just horribly bad at dealing with frustration against ppl he has personal vendettas against.
Which only makes the point I was making stronger, he should just chill
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On November 25 2011 08:42 Stolat wrote:
Damn / no on-line drawing sucks ;( i was waiting for that ;(
me too
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On November 25 2011 08:42 Stolat wrote:
Damn / no on-line drawing sucks ;( i was waiting for that ;(
me2 : ( but well : (
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I don't really get it, Grubby should be out, the rules say it clearly.
The groups are decided in the following order: points, maps +/-, internal match. In case of a three-way-tie of the previous criteria internal maps +/- will decide.
He has a worse map score difference, so he should lose. I'd have liked to see him go through, but it's only fair.
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they should have done GSL style drawings for the next group stages lol that would be pretty cool but only if it was streamed
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On November 25 2011 08:41 Bobster wrote:Why isn't this match shown
Because the casters need to sleep
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Holy crap - Genius 2-1d Elfi :o
And went 3-0 in his group; i was not expecting that
On November 25 2011 08:39 gold_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:37 bkrow wrote:A lot of fanboys, a lot of dumb posts and a lot of the same questions asked and answered over and over and over again - IdrA is BM, get over it
- Grubby is out, it sucks but it doesn't make the rules unfair. The rules are pretty straight forward and losing more maps in group play doesn't result in any form of injustice.
- The games will either be played off stream or streamed tomorrow morning (stream starts at 10am CET)
- Conspiracy theories about Sen throwing games are a waste of oxygen
How is it a waste of oxygen if we aren't actually speaking?
I'm just going to go ahead and assume you are somewhere between the age of 13 - 15
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On November 25 2011 08:38 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:36 mcc wrote:On November 25 2011 08:24 bkrow wrote:On November 25 2011 08:20 Quasimoto3000 wrote:On November 25 2011 08:08 enemy2010 wrote:On November 25 2011 08:05 Anonymous_Coward wrote:
Idra 2-0d by Kas, wow.
And again Idra doesn't even give a GG, IMO there should be a penalty for not GGing. On November 25 2011 08:05 Poopi wrote:
Lol seriously IdrA?
Start GGing and maybe you'll have better results.
gg Kas, glad to see him playing good in lan Do you guys actually read your stuff before you post it? o.O I dont understand what was wrong with their posts? They are both expressing their disdain with Idras lack of respect for other players. Additionally, they are implying that perhaps if Idra took more responsibility for his losses, his game would benefit. You don't see a problem with "start GGing and you'll have better results" Because that seems to be the most irrelevant factor in determining someones results. Is that it for the day? On all streams? So depressing Actually I would not be so sure as if Idra starts GGing that means he at least somewhat started to reign his emotions and that actually might help him win more games. After seeing him not gg for the last few thousand ladder matches, you would think people had realized him not gging has little to do with emotions. That is not to say he isn't angry or "raging" when he loses to someone like kas, but he was never going to gg, no matter how the games went.
His selective gging and falling apart after losses in tournaments seems to disagree with you and ladder is irrelevant that I would agree with.
EDIT: but ladder might be a good training ground to work on his issues.
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On November 25 2011 08:39 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:28 Ace.Xile wrote:On November 25 2011 08:25 Eppa! wrote:On November 25 2011 08:17 Ace.Xile wrote:On November 25 2011 08:14 Seronei wrote:On November 25 2011 08:13 Ace.Xile wrote:On November 25 2011 08:10 tnud wrote:On November 25 2011 08:09 syllogism wrote:On November 25 2011 08:08 HappyChris wrote:On November 25 2011 08:07 syllogism wrote:
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Thorzain is the only EU terran who can actually win something Nahh Kas allways been the best he just got a problem with nerves sometimes and it seems he has figured it out Haha right, we've heard that story repeatedly and he still never wins anything. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1693_Empire.KasHe got 5 pages bro Kas hasn't won anything of any significance with good players. Why do people bother saying well x is so good but he just has nerves. it doesn't matter how good you think someoen is when they can't win anything worthwhile. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Copenhagen_Games_Spring_2011 Second place there. Second place at a tournament where the best people he had to play were grubby and cloud? Yeah he had to play MC but he lost 4-0 People need to win stuff to be considered good? Oz has won jack shit and is codes ro4. Sase has not won one lane tournament. Stephano just won his first big title. Gold medals in lan tournaments are a terrible measurement of skill. Idra has won 0 tournaments in EU. He won one MLG where everyone sucked, and an IEM in china that he barely made it to playoffs against barely any top players. Yes? how can u be considered good if you don't win anything of significance, it's like saying someones good cause they can win a pick up soccer game but can't win a game in the pro leagues to save their life. Go look at Idras compared to Kas achievements and tell me who's more accomplished. Yes you can be good at this game and not win shit, but the point is how good can you really be if you can't stand the pressure of a Lan, and what's the real point of being "good" if you can't do anything with it but win ladder games. You can say all day about how Kas is better than Idra, and who knows maybe Kas can beat idra, but that doesn't mean he's better overall. Haypro beat Nestea, Idra has beaten Haypro tons of times, does that mean Idra is now God of zerg? No. Do you get it that online tournaments are not ladder games, do you get that Kas won LAN with better participants that any pure NA tournament could ever have ?
Really? Which one, sure a Pure NA tournament, but i can't honestly think of a single pure NA tournament short of possibly mlg dc a year ago and even that had people who weren't from NA
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On November 25 2011 08:43 bkrow wrote:Holy crap - Genius 2-1d Elfi :o And went 3-0 in his group; i was not expecting that Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:39 gold_ wrote:On November 25 2011 08:37 bkrow wrote:A lot of fanboys, a lot of dumb posts and a lot of the same questions asked and answered over and over and over again - IdrA is BM, get over it
- Grubby is out, it sucks but it doesn't make the rules unfair. The rules are pretty straight forward and losing more maps in group play doesn't result in any form of injustice.
- The games will either be played off stream or streamed tomorrow morning (stream starts at 10am CET)
- Conspiracy theories about Sen throwing games are a waste of oxygen
How is it a waste of oxygen if we aren't actually speaking? I'm just going to go ahead and assume you are somewhere between the age of 13 - 15
should've said "you're still breathing even if you're only typing"
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On November 25 2011 08:43 bkrow wrote:Holy crap - Genius 2-1d Elfi :o And went 3-0 in his group; i was not expecting that Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:39 gold_ wrote:On November 25 2011 08:37 bkrow wrote:A lot of fanboys, a lot of dumb posts and a lot of the same questions asked and answered over and over and over again - IdrA is BM, get over it
- Grubby is out, it sucks but it doesn't make the rules unfair. The rules are pretty straight forward and losing more maps in group play doesn't result in any form of injustice.
- The games will either be played off stream or streamed tomorrow morning (stream starts at 10am CET)
- Conspiracy theories about Sen throwing games are a waste of oxygen
How is it a waste of oxygen if we aren't actually speaking? I'm just going to go ahead and assume you are somewhere between the age of 13 - 15
ROFL, yea actually I was just messing with you. I am probably older than you. 
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On November 25 2011 08:44 JohnMatrix wrote:
Ok huk 2-0'd Eeel.
Thanks for the update!
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