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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 24 2011 23:29 GMT
#4781
Group drawings will take place tomorrow.
Automata
Profile Joined March 2011
393 Posts
November 24 2011 23:29 GMT
#4782
Hey, anyone have vods or links to the Sheth vs ToD game? scredddit has a good response over it and I'm curious how that game turned out.
appe
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden149 Posts
November 24 2011 23:29 GMT
#4783
Of course Grubby should be out, he lost one more map than the players he's tied with. What if Grubby vs. DeathAngel would have ended 2-1? Shouldn't DeathAngel's extra map win (5-2) count and place him above the other's with the same points?
WallieP
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands425 Posts
November 24 2011 23:30 GMT
#4784
On November 25 2011 08:29 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:27 Asha` wrote:
lol @ people not even seeing Sen vs DeathAngel and suggesting Sen tanked the games.

There's a reason to play to win your group you know..?
Grubby fanboys - just as painful as in WC3.


*shrugs* Just don't pay attention to them. They're like IdrA fanboys, cant reason with 'em.

Maybe dont generalize?!
i came i saw i conquered
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
November 24 2011 23:30 GMT
#4785
On November 25 2011 08:29 StarStruck wrote:
Group drawings will take place tomorrow.

Source?
Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
November 24 2011 23:30 GMT
#4786
The mod in the jtv chat just confirmed that we are done for the day
"Daddy, how did the Protossaurs go extinct?" "A giant EMP hit the earth" - Fionn
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
November 24 2011 23:30 GMT
#4787
On November 25 2011 08:29 Deckkie wrote:
Can someone please give a small rundown on the IdrA vs Kas games? Very curious
Or maybe tell me around what number in this thread the games took place so that I can read those post.
Or, or if there are VODs up that would be the most awesome ofcourse (A)

Kas denied idras 3rd with blue flame hellions and got his own 3rd up faster than idra, and then he just capitalized on that. Both games
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
November 24 2011 23:30 GMT
#4788
On November 25 2011 08:29 gold_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:27 StarStruck wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:25 mrKamiya wrote:
Why is Grubby placed lower than the person he beat even though they have an equal series score, and he only lost one more map?


They are still working it out. Technically if you have the better record it would make sense for the person who has the fewest loses to move on because they have the better record. Technicalities.

I can't even comprehend how unfair that rule would be. Beat someone 2-0 and then because you lost one more map than said person, your out. Should be counted only by wins and if tied on wins then tiebreaker.


seems simple enough for me, a 2-0 is harder than a 2-1
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
November 24 2011 23:31 GMT
#4789
On November 25 2011 08:29 gold_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:27 StarStruck wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:25 mrKamiya wrote:
Why is Grubby placed lower than the person he beat even though they have an equal series score, and he only lost one more map?


They are still working it out. Technically if you have the better record it would make sense for the person who has the fewest loses to move on because they have the better record. Technicalities.

I can't even comprehend how unfair that rule would be. Beat someone 2-0 and then because you lost one more map than said person, your out. Should be counted only by wins and if tied on wins then tiebreaker.

I don't think direct result should override map difference, especially if you've played all Bo3s. The rules are standard, they're good.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 23:32:35
November 24 2011 23:31 GMT
#4790
On November 25 2011 08:28 Daray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:27 Asha` wrote:
lol @ people not even seeing Sen vs DeathAngel and suggesting Sen tanked the games.

There's a reason to play to win your group you know..?


No there's not. wtf man?

1st and 2nd is all the same this time.


Oh really? I'm just dumb then haha, shall go read the format properly =p

I shall scramble and say he could have theoretically ended in a 3way tie if Grubby hadn't dropped a map to Devil then? =p
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 23:32:18
November 24 2011 23:31 GMT
#4791
On November 25 2011 08:29 gold_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:27 StarStruck wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:25 mrKamiya wrote:
Why is Grubby placed lower than the person he beat even though they have an equal series score, and he only lost one more map?


They are still working it out. Technically if you have the better record it would make sense for the person who has the fewest loses to move on because they have the better record. Technicalities.

I can't even comprehend how unfair that rule would be. Beat someone 2-0 and then because you lost one more map than said person, your out. Should be counted only by wins and if tied on wins then tiebreaker.


It's done like that in every other league I know of. I don't see why it wouldn't be the same here. I would highly encourage it because that would mean every game counts regardless and the players would have more reason to dominate. ._.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
November 24 2011 23:31 GMT
#4792
On November 25 2011 08:30 WallieP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:29 Elem wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:27 Asha` wrote:
lol @ people not even seeing Sen vs DeathAngel and suggesting Sen tanked the games.

There's a reason to play to win your group you know..?
Grubby fanboys - just as painful as in WC3.


*shrugs* Just don't pay attention to them. They're like IdrA fanboys, cant reason with 'em.

Maybe dont generalize?!
I've tried for almost 8 years. Still does not help. ^^


#freeshauni
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
November 24 2011 23:31 GMT
#4793
On November 25 2011 08:20 Ace.Xile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:16 trucane wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:12 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:11 Ace.Xile wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:09 SpiffD wrote:
Idra got 2-0'd by the guy he called terrible just a month ago.



Because a month ago the ONLY reason kas won was because idra didn't scout that he was going some weird ass wonky mass hellion no blue fame build, where he built like 12+ hellions and ran in.


Idra didn't scout what was Kas was doing and that justifies him calling Kas terrible? Really?


Yep Idra fanboys at their finest.


I'm not an idra fanboy just smart enough to realize that the build kas was doing was horrible, and the only reason it worked was because he idra didn't think there was any way he would use some bad build. The build is one of the few builds thats so hard countered it's not even funny. Sweet he made 14 hellions, i'll make 7 roaches and win. It wasn't creative, it wasn't a good build, it was just straight up that idra didn't expect it because it's such a horrible build. If you want to call the fact that kas chose a build and essentially got lucky being good then sure go ahead, but come on really?

Because that one game is not what people base their opinion about Kas on ?
mhe
Profile Joined September 2011
United States28 Posts
November 24 2011 23:31 GMT
#4794
What happens to group O? Do thay play 2 more games?
Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
November 24 2011 23:31 GMT
#4795
On November 25 2011 08:20 Ace.Xile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:16 trucane wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:12 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:11 Ace.Xile wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:09 SpiffD wrote:
Idra got 2-0'd by the guy he called terrible just a month ago.



Because a month ago the ONLY reason kas won was because idra didn't scout that he was going some weird ass wonky mass hellion no blue fame build, where he built like 12+ hellions and ran in.


Idra didn't scout what was Kas was doing and that justifies him calling Kas terrible? Really?


Yep Idra fanboys at their finest.


I'm not an idra fanboy just smart enough to realize that the build kas was doing was horrible, and the only reason it worked was because he idra didn't think there was any way he would use some bad build. The build is one of the few builds thats so hard countered it's not even funny. Sweet he made 14 hellions, i'll make 7 roaches and win. It wasn't creative, it wasn't a good build, it was just straight up that idra didn't expect it because it's such a horrible build. If you want to call the fact that kas chose a build and essentially got lucky being good then sure go ahead, but come on really?


I don't know but this post reminds me of Foreigners still suck! : D
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
November 24 2011 23:31 GMT
#4796
On November 25 2011 08:28 Daray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:27 Asha` wrote:
lol @ people not even seeing Sen vs DeathAngel and suggesting Sen tanked the games.

There's a reason to play to win your group you know..?


No there's not. wtf man?

1st and 2nd is all the same this time.

Uhm nope... if you get second you get two of the numbers 1's in other groups and if you get the first place, you get only one other 1st place finisher. So it's not all the same. It could become that way, but this time no...
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Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
November 24 2011 23:31 GMT
#4797
I don't understand this discussion!!! What does it matter if Idra is more accomplished than Kas in offline tournaments? The only thing that matters to distinguish the two is their record in games against each other. That is the only feasible way of comparing skill between players.

Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
November 24 2011 23:32 GMT
#4798
On November 25 2011 08:30 VoirDire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:29 Deckkie wrote:
Can someone please give a small rundown on the IdrA vs Kas games? Very curious
Or maybe tell me around what number in this thread the games took place so that I can read those post.
Or, or if there are VODs up that would be the most awesome ofcourse (A)

Kas denied idras 3rd with blue flame hellions and got his own 3rd up faster than idra, and then he just capitalized on that. Both games


Nice and easy, thanks.
Always look on the bright side of life
taki_
Profile Joined April 2011
United States39 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 23:35:23
November 24 2011 23:32 GMT
#4799
Group O results from Mod on dreamhack stream:

+ Show Spoiler +
Amilkar123: huk won against seala?
Mod Sk_jono: Yeah huk 2 - 1 seala


Streamed, oh well, I missed it. T_T
Liveon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands1083 Posts
November 24 2011 23:32 GMT
#4800
Grubby pretty much just confirmed that he's out. He posted "TT" on twitter.
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