EPTSo, any youtube uploads of the games yet?
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Surrealz
United States449 Posts
So, any youtube uploads of the games yet? | ||
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leve15
United States301 Posts
and I agree. first they'd need a quality product for me to consider paying them 20 dollars. and then I still wouldn't pay for it. and I have a job* | ||
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ilbh
Brazil1606 Posts
On September 10 2010 02:46 Technique wrote: Its just the caster tools hes not familiar with... im pretty sure he played alot of sc2 himself so i wouldnt know why hes not familiar with the actual game... I'm disappointed with tasteless. a lot of miss-information and things he doesn't know and the critter jokes... so unnatural, it's sad. he still have a good game sense. | ||
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Easy772
374 Posts
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cuppatea
United Kingdom1401 Posts
On September 10 2010 04:58 Surrealz wrote: No, their $20 is a barrier to esports, its really laggy, and I have no desire to put money in their pockets. I feel no shame in saying that, as they really aren't doing anything special for esports. So, any youtube uploads of the games yet? Half a million in prize money isn't "anything special for esports"? They've put a free stream up and ESL and MLG both do premium streams as well, so I don't see a problem. | ||
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fantomex
United States313 Posts
On September 10 2010 04:56 CheeseGrater wrote: All these arguments over paying $20 for an entire month of games are ridiculous. If you can afford it, great. If not, sorry, go get a job. Lets see what can u get for $20... A case of somewhat nice beer.. 1 and a half CDs. A nice meal out. 1 lapdance at a strip club. 1 DVD. A haircut.. Or.... more than a month of HBO which produces several high budget shows/movies/miniseries. But yeah $20 for low quality vods is totally worth it. >.> | ||
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shire
United States405 Posts
On September 10 2010 05:29 fantomex wrote: Or.... more than a month of HBO which produces several high budget shows/movies/miniseries. But yeah $20 for low quality vods is totally worth it. >.> wtheck? how can u compare HBO shows when there are more viewers for HBO. seriously when u compare amount of games sc2 was sold in US and how many people are actually willing to watch the progamers play with number of viewers of HBO shows. ur logic does not makes sense. gsl is new and fan base is alot smaller than NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL. and gretech said they couldn't get any of international sponsors since most companies they contacted were skeptical about the number of viewers. if you do not want to pay 20 dollars to watch, just watch the sq stream. they said they need the number of viewers so they can show to the sponsors. and hopefully.... we will get high quality streams for free once there are enough sponsors to support free international streams. | ||
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cuppatea
United Kingdom1401 Posts
On September 10 2010 05:29 fantomex wrote: Or.... more than a month of HBO which produces several high budget shows/movies/miniseries. But yeah $20 for low quality vods is totally worth it. >.> Or... one third of a HBO boxing PPV which lasts for 3 hours and 90% of people buy for the main event, which could last anywhere from 5 seconds to 36 minutes. | ||
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Surrealz
United States449 Posts
If it was high quality VODs I would buy. But they are crappy. | ||
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eiger
Belgium98 Posts
Most sports survive as grassroots for a very long time before they are taken into the mainstream media, even so they are usually propelled there by stuper stars within the community, rather than the money injection from an audience base. As far as my contributions, well, I run a sc2 team, help run the top amateur korean wc3 team, as well as administrate 2 wc3 leagues, and helped found another which I only stepped down from position recently and before that i actively competed in Canadian 1.6 competitions. So if you want to try to downplay me as your typical TL poster, go ahead, but i can assure you i have contributed my fair share to esports that you cannot guilt me into paying 20$ to two companies i dont care to see succeed. Twenty dollars is a fine price. I am so happy to see nice guys like Artosis, Tasteless up there promoting the good of the game, doing their very best. I am so bloody happy to see non-koreans sitting in those little booths for once... and actually winning games. You think something like this would never happen.. and it is.. and hopefully only a matter of time before it reaches our shores. Yet here they are, the negative posters, in their little crusades and boycotts against the terrible injustices and sub 720p streams they have to suffer. Forget the nerd entitlement issues, get laid, have a beer, enjoy the game and stop banging it down at every opportunity. | ||
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teko
Canada1197 Posts
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Dookie1
United States70 Posts
it might be a little much for all 12 tournaments a year though 240$ a year isn't exactly chump change | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
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theqat
United States2856 Posts
You're going to miss some of the highest quality Starcraft yet played by the time this is over and you're not helping contribute to it happening again in the future by not paying. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On September 10 2010 05:46 eiger wrote: Twenty dollars is a fine price. I am so happy to see nice guys like Artosis, Tasteless up there promoting the good of the game, doing their very best. I am so bloody happy to see non-koreans sitting in those little booths for once... and actually winning games. You think something like this would never happen.. and it is.. and hopefully only a matter of time before it reaches our shores. Yet here they are, the negative posters, in their little crusades and boycotts against the terrible injustices and sub 720p streams they have to suffer. Forget the nerd entitlement issues, get laid, have a beer, enjoy the game and stop banging it down at every opportunity. Oh wow allow me to kick you off your high horse. Some of us grew up with the idea that we are allowed to choose what we spend our money on. There have been several posts with good, reasonable reasons as to why $20 for a month of VODs is a steep price. For each of those, there was someone who was yelling that we should just pay and shut up because it's helping E-Sports. Obviously, I'm sure that more than half of those who are pushing others to pay have not taken out one dollar out of their own pocket to pay for these, but I digress. Did you, or most of the people here, ever pay for SC1 vods/replays? No? Me neither. Then how the heck did all those big companies survive? You're all CONVINCED that this helps e-sports, but you don't really KNOW whether or not it does. If 5 other companies do this, then the fanbase will be heavily split, which is not always a good thing. How do you know that's helpful to e-sports? I like it how people who are against this have arguments like: low quality vods, content not good enough for $20/month, etc., while the pro-arguments are: just do it, get laid and shut up, this helps e-sports! Good job guys. | ||
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Nilaus
Denmark159 Posts
The partnership between Tasteless and Artosis is getting better. Tasteless is starting to learn the SC2 features albeit very slowly. Tasteless is starting to revert to his old habits of plugging his website, his team and focusing on critters instead of the action. The games are great, but it is annoying that the VODs are so poor quality. Nothing is preventing them from actually uploading 720p VODs so we can actually see the unit counting station. I love it and I want to support it, but 20$ a month to watch medium quality VODs is a bit harsh. I hope and assume that they will eventually improve that aspect. | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/4592/lolkms.jpg) such a baller | ||
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sysrpl
United States222 Posts
On September 10 2010 04:56 leve15 wrote: Game 2 of tester vs zenith http://link.removed with better observing, and the koreans casting for nostalgia Can some TL moderator please start banning people for posting links to illegal content. Many people, including those affiliated with GOM, have worked hard and contributed much of their time and money to bring us this tournament. If they feel they need to be compensated in order to maintain or even advance the quality of their effort, then we should abide by their decision and not help people steal their content. I truly feel that all talk about illegally downloading GSL VODs should result in deleted posts and bans. | ||
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epik151
312 Posts
Hmm, $30 for 2 hours or $20 for an entire month of top notch esports entertainment? 5 days a week, 3-5 sets being casted daily? Pretty good value in comparison. | ||
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leve15
United States301 Posts
On September 10 2010 06:50 sysrpl wrote: Can some TL moderator please start banning people for posting links to illegal content. Many people, including those affiliated with GOM, have worked hard and contributed much of their time and money to bring us this tournament. If they feel they need to be compensated in order to maintain or even advance the quality of their effort, then we should abide by their decision and not help people steal their content. I truly feel that all talk about illegally downloading GSL VODs should result in deleted posts and bans. That's not the vod they're charging money for. Some of us don't care about hearing people speak English. We never did for the original BW vods either. Take it up with the people who uploaded the videos on youku. It's not TL's responsibility. | ||
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